ROCK & ROLL is DEAD

Definitely not. Rise Against, Avenged Sevenfold, and QotSA are still putting out some great rock albums. I think A7X's City of Evil album is comparable to the ones you mentioned.

Foo Fighters are awesome. LeePearce

the problem I have today is that pretty much all mainstream bands suck hard live, and its hard to find alot of songs truly original. Most are like the exact same pattern in different keys.

When I listen to Hendrix, I prefer to listen to him live rather than his recordings because he puts so much power into his performances and he almost always has a different rendition of his songs that keeps them fresh. I can't say the same for any band in the last decade.

The Strokes- Is this It

Better than Ten and 1984 and I'm a big fan of Pearl Jam and Roth Van Halen

Also Slipknot is not standard metal. It's either Nu Metal (first two recordings) or alternative metal (last 2 recordings)

[QUOTE="The_Solid"]1)ACDC("T.N.T.")chessmaster1989

Hmm, interesting choice for ACDC's best song. I like it, but my top two are definitely Back in Black and Hells Bells.

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[QUOTE="The_Solid"]1)ACDC("T.N.T.")LZ71

Hmm, interesting choice for ACDC's best song. I like it, but my top two are definitely Back in Black and Hells Bells.

Good choices, again, although, between those two, I definitely prefer Hells Bells.

Thunderstruck is another great one.

With bands like Mastodon, Coheed & Cambria, and The Mars Volta active I doubt rock will be dead anytime soon.

Disagree, I just went to Bamboolze Left yesterday and it is still very much alive

the problem I have today is that pretty much all mainstream bands suck hard live, and its hard to find alot of songs truly original. Most are like the exact same pattern in different keys.

When I listen to Hendrix, I prefer to listen to him live rather than his recordings because he puts so much power into his performances and he almost always has a different rendition of his songs that keeps them fresh. I can't say the same for any band in the last decade.

links136

[QUOTE="LZ71"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Hmm, interesting choice for ACDC's best song. I like it, but my top two are definitely Back in Black and Hells Bells.

Good choices, again, although, between those two, I definitely prefer Hells Bells.

Thunderstruck is another great one.

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the problem I have today is that pretty much all mainstream bands suck hard live, and its hard to find alot of songs truly original. Most are like the exact same pattern in different keys.

When I listen to Hendrix, I prefer to listen to him live rather than his recordings because he puts so much power into his performances and he almost always has a different rendition of his songs that keeps them fresh. I can't say the same for any band in the last decade.

Darth-Caedus

thats the problem, any 'good' band or band with talent never makes it near the top. Never any exposure. Kinda sickining really.

[QUOTE="LZ71"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Hmm, interesting choice for ACDC's best song. I like it, but my top two are definitely Back in Black and Hells Bells.

chessmaster1989

Good choices, again, although, between those two, I definitely prefer Hells Bells.

Thunderstruck is another great one.

Really. It is.

Name one rock album released during the 2000's that is as timeless as Pearl Jam's Ten for the 90's, Van Halen's 1984 in the 80's, Led Zeppelin's IV in the 70's, or Jimi Hendrix's Are You Experienced? in the 60's. Don't forget Elvis in the 50's.

Just realize that the only rock and roll that sells these days is feux "hard" rock like Nickelback, childish pop rock like All American Rejects, and horrid, mainstream metal like Slipknot. Punk? Emo? Kill me know please. The industry has killed the idea of album oriented work, and replaced it with a major emphasis on singles. Nowadays, an album is required to only have one or two big singles to be regarded as good among casual listeners. It makes me sick to my stomach.

Yes. I said it. Rock and roll today is dead. There is no emotion in it, there is no style to it, and most importantly, there is no integrity to it.

Bands like Metallica, Pearl Jam and Rush are the only ones around today to keep its heart barely pumping. As soon as these last few bands dissolve, as we all know they eventually will, the true rock movement will dissolve into the past. WE should all be thankful that iTunes and Zune and Napster will still carry it, so we, the people who have known true rock, can continue appreciating it.

Unless record companies stop with the commercialization of music, eventually all of it will die.

Agree/Disagree?

Uncle_Uzi

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[QUOTE="LZ71"] I'd have to agree with Chessmaster on this one. T.N.T. is great, but I don't think it's their best song. I'd have to go with either Hells Bells or It's A Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock n' Roll) for their best song.thepwninator

Good choices, again, although, between those two, I definitely prefer Hells Bells.

Thunderstruck is another great one.

Haha I love that song. It's one of my favorites from the Bon Scott era.

Hell yeah. Echoes, Silence, Patience, and Grace is an awesome album.FalcoLX

[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"]

Really. It is.

Name one rock album released during the 2000's that is as timeless as Pearl Jam's Ten for the 90's, Van Halen's 1984 in the 80's, Led Zeppelin's IV in the 70's, or Jimi Hendrix's Are You Experienced? in the 60's. Don't forget Elvis in the 50's.

Just realize that the only rock and roll that sells these days is feux "hard" rock like Nickelback, childish pop rock like All American Rejects, and horrid, mainstream metal like Slipknot. Punk? Emo? Kill me know please. The industry has killed the idea of album oriented work, and replaced it with a major emphasis on singles. Nowadays, an album is required to only have one or two big singles to be regarded as good among casual listeners. It makes me sick to my stomach.

Yes. I said it. Rock and roll today is dead. There is no emotion in it, there is no style to it, and most importantly, there is no integrity to it.

Bands like Metallica, Pearl Jam and Rush are the only ones around today to keep its heart barely pumping. As soon as these last few bands dissolve, as we all know they eventually will, the true rock movement will dissolve into the past. WE should all be thankful that iTunes and Zune and Napster will still carry it, so we, the people who have known true rock, can continue appreciating it.

Unless record companies stop with the commercialization of music, eventually all of it will die.

Agree/Disagree?

Snaptrap

Here's where you're wrong: you're trying to define Rock & Roll as a subgenre of Rock. NOT AT ALL TRUE.

Most normal people consider Drums, Bass, Guitar, Singer....... a ROCK band. Its the idea of loud, beat-driven, emotional music that has a front man (usually the singer). And when I say emotional I mean a very wide range of emotions, from happy to sad, from angry to (Elvis' case) horny.

There are variations on this formula, but Rock & Roll (commonly just called rock) encompasses all of it.

Sorry sir Rock will never die.

[QUOTE="FalcoLX"]Hell yeah. Echoes, Silence, Patience, and Grace is an awesome album.Jaks_Secret

Yep. I don't mind Dave screaming but it came off a bit uninspired. I was a little surprised by how many songs seemed to use the "start off quiet and rip it up near the end" formula. I'd say the first 5 songs on the album are my favorites and the rest are fine to listen to but nothing to talk about.

You are entitled to your opinion. Doesn't mean it's correct nonetheless...

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Today's mainstream music is for children. Every "rock'" band right now is really just a joke, pretty much anything on the radio or MTV is a joke.SeanDog123

[QUOTE="redstormrisen"][QUOTE="thepwninator"] Fighting the world every single day Fighting the world for the right to play HEAVY METAL in my plane I'm fighting for the matter cause it's here to stay! *insert chorus of "fighting fighting fighting the world, I've been fighting the world" x 10000 here*-starman-

the UFC of the music world, then?

Yeah...

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BeepBoop16

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"]Today's mainstream music is for children. Every "rock'" band right now is really just a joke, pretty much anything on the radio or MTV is a joke.LJS9502_basic

Today's mainstream music is for children. Every "rock'" band right now is really just a joke, pretty much anything on the radio or MTV is a joke.SeanDog123

A joke? Seem pretty serious to me.

Words can be broken. So can bones.

Christ, so simple yet so beautiful.

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[QUOTE="SeanDog123"]Today's mainstream music is for children. Every "rock'" band right now is really just a joke, pretty much anything on the radio or MTV is a joke.SeanDog123

You are looking back and seeing ONLY the music that appeals to you. Not everyone listened to rock. Most songs on the charts were pop.

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SeanDog123

Actually, the third one is dedicated to the artist's aunt. He also has a song called "I love my parents." He wears a Bucket on his head. He takes rubber chicken's to gigs. Yeah he sounds extremely eccentric but not in an angsty sort of way you are reffering to.

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SeanDog123

Disagree.

I could name one band that throws your entire argument out the window.

Disagree. I'm in no mood for arguments, though, as it appears you are fairly set on your opinion.geodisicdome

First post and the thread is already destroyed. Well done.

[QUOTE="BeepBoop16"]

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"]Today's mainstream music is for children. Every "rock'" band right now is really just a joke, pretty much anything on the radio or MTV is a joke.SeanDog123

A joke? Seem pretty serious to me.

Words can be broken. So can bones.

Christ, so simple yet so beautiful.

Why must you have to "be" something to be a fan of certain music? Is every hip-hop fan a gangster? Is every Rock fan a hooligan? Is every pop fan a teenage girl? Is every metal fan a murderer?

Can't people just enjoy the music without being the stereotype that you idiotically project onto your own view of it?

If all you base that argument on is the mainstream mall music middle school kids listen to, then yes, it is dead. But if you go further into each individual genre you'll find there are tons of bands out there that still fill their music with emotion and passion.

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]This is nothing new however.....

LJS9502_basic

You are looking back and seeing ONLY the music that appeals to you. Not everyone listened to rock. Most songs on the charts were pop.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"] Well, they used to play classic rock on the radio, before it became classic.SeanDog123

You are looking back and seeing ONLY the music that appeals to you. Not everyone listened to rock. Most songs on the charts were pop.

Sounds like someone isn't even aware of metal. Blind Guardian, Opeth, Scar Symmetry, Porcupine Tree, Nine Inch Nails, Nightwish, Within Temptation, Mastodon, Metallica, Megadeth, Meshuggah, Sepultura, Maximum the Hormone, Machine Head, In Flames, TRIVIUM, Sonic Syndicate, Hurt, All that Remains, Axenstar, Roadrunner united, Sonata Arctica, Amon Amarth, and Dream Theater have all released great albums in this decade and many have released great albums in the last several years,

Sounds like someone isn't even aware of metal. Blind Guardian, Opeth, Scar Symmetry, Porcupine Tree, Nine Inch Nails, Nightwish, Within Temptation, Mastodon, Metallica, Megadeth, Meshuggah, Sepultura, Maximum the Hormone, Machine Head, In Flames, TRIVIUM, Sonic Syndicate, Hurt, All that Remains, Axenstar, Roadrunner united, Sonata Arctica, Amon Amarth, and Dream Theater have all released great albums in this decade and many have released great albums in the last several years,

SolidSnake2142

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Sounds like someone isn't even aware of metal. Blind Guardian, Opeth, Scar Symmetry, Porcupine Tree, Nine Inch Nails, Nightwish, Within Temptation, Mastodon, Metallica, Megadeth, Meshuggah, Sepultura, Maximum the Hormone, Machine Head, In Flames, TRIVIUM, Sonic Syndicate, Hurt, All that Remains, Axenstar, Roadrunner united, Sonata Arctica, Amon Amarth, and Dream Theater have all released great albums in this decade and many have released great albums in the last several years,

viva_hate

[QUOTE="viva_hate"][QUOTE="SolidSnake2142"]

Sounds like someone isn't even aware of metal. Blind Guardian, Opeth, Scar Symmetry, Porcupine Tree, Nine Inch Nails, Nightwish, Within Temptation, Mastodon, Metallica, Megadeth, Meshuggah, Sepultura, Maximum the Hormone, Machine Head, In Flames, TRIVIUM, Sonic Syndicate, Hurt, All that Remains, Axenstar, Roadrunner united, Sonata Arctica, Amon Amarth, and Dream Theater have all released great albums in this decade and many have released great albums in the last several years,

LJS9502_basic

I listen to and love mostly cl@ssic rock, but even I disagree with that statement. There are still a few great rock bands left, like Queens of the Stone Age. Just look past the mainstream crap.LZ71

Yes QotSA are amazing. Also I hope the sound of classic rock will start to come back Iif you ask me The Strokes have a very classic sound to their music.

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[QUOTE="viva_hate"] There seems to be a general interest in metal in off-topic. I'm new here, please forgive me. As much as I can criticize metal, I have to admire how persistent and diverse it is. But again, whether or not it is rock & roll is mostly a matter of opinion. Sure, it used to be, but it's starting to look less like a subgenre and more like a stand-alone genre. It pretty much amputated itself from rock & roll, by getting so heavy and serious.SolidSnake2142

Rock is the standout sound of the late 20 and early 21 centruies!

Pretty sure countless Rock bands around keep that old time vibe alive. Oh wait, that's right, you don't actually know anything about modern music so you wouldn't know.

[QUOTE="Jaks_Secret"][QUOTE="FalcoLX"]Hell yeah. Echoes, Silence, Patience, and Grace is an awesome album.Nifty_Shark

Yep. I don't mind Dave screaming but it came off a bit uninspired. I was a little surprised by how many songs seemed to use the "start off quiet and rip it up near the end" formula. I'd say the first 5 songs on the album are my favorites and the rest are fine to listen to but nothing to talk about.