Racism at UCSD. Are the retaliations justified?

http://www.10news.com/news/22588063/detail.html

What do you guys think? Some argue that the party is protected under the first amendment of the Constitution, whereas others say that the UCSD chapter of the PIKE Frat should be shut down as a punishment.

Others have been asking what would have happened if there was a white-trash BBQ instead, with crooked teeth, overalls, beer, and a campout.

Thoughts?

Wouldn't be that way if it was mocking white history month IMO..

They're just mocking an unecessary month...what's the problem...

Wouldn't be that way if it was mocking white history month IMO..

They're just mocking an unecessary month...what's the problem...

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Which is why you wonder why there is such a thing as "Black History Month." Why limit a rich culture and history to just one month out of the year? There is no such thing as "White History Month." We studied that throughout high school, and even more detailed now in college. I don't get why it needs to exist, when most of what it does is create problems.

Wouldn't be that way if it was mocking white history month IMO..

They're just mocking an unecessary month...what's the problem...

Xx_Hopeless_xX

What bothers me is that people actually chose on their own will power to attend a party like that, proving there are closet racists everywhere

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Wouldn't be that way if it was mocking white history month IMO..

They're just mocking an unecessary month...what's the problem...

xTheExploited

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the gheto people mock white people on a daily basis as well..

Retaliations are completely justified in my opinion. I remember another party like this a year or so back mocking Black History Month.xTheExploited

[QUOTE="xTheExploited"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Wouldn't be that way if it was mocking white history month IMO..

They're just mocking an unecessary month...what's the problem...

Xx_Hopeless_xX

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the mock white people as well..

An unneccesary month or celebration is a matter of opinion.... But that being said I actually agree, they specifically say ghetto.. Blacks may fit in this stereotype but they do not make it.... I mean what difference would this make if there was a party with a red neck white trash theme? I sure as hell wouldn't care, if people are going to angry at that stereotype perhapes they should start criticizing the people who perpatuate it.. Though I personally wouldn't attend the party and I would find it stupid, I personally wouldn't care..

[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]Retaliations are completely justified in my opinion. I remember another party like this a year or so back mocking Black History Month.Pirate700

My point exactly. It seems that people here seem to think that racism is inextricably linked to the Black/African American race, but none other.

(EDIT: By here, I mean UCSD. My apologies)

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University of California, San Diego.

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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"] They are not mocking an unecessary month they are mocking a race. The themes of the party all involved stereotypes of black people who live in the ghetto. It is blatant racism.sSubZerOo

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the mock white people as well..

An unneccesary month or celebration is a matter of opinion.... But that being said I actually agree, they specifically say ghetto.. Blacks may fit in this stereotype but they do not make it.... I mean what difference would this make if there was a party with a red neck white trash theme? I sure as hell wouldn't care, if people are going to angry at that stereotype perhapes they should start criticizing the people who perpatuate it.. Though I personally wouldn't attend the party and I would find it stupid, I personally wouldn't care..

Probably wouldn't be any news coverage or anything >_>..

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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]Retaliations are completely justified in my opinion. I remember another party like this a year or so back mocking Black History Month.TirOrn

My point exactly. It seems that people here seem to think that racism is inextricably linked to the Black/African American race, but none other.

(EDIT: By here, I mean UCSD. My apologies)

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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]Retaliations are completely justified in my opinion. I remember another party like this a year or so back mocking Black History Month.TirOrn

My point exactly. It seems that people here seem to think that racism is inextricably linked to the Black/African American race, but none other.

(EDIT: By here, I mean UCSD. My apologies)

Yep... I doubt it would have even been mentioned if this was a redneck themed party. The faculty might have even joined in.

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the mock white people as well..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

An unneccesary month or celebration is a matter of opinion.... But that being said I actually agree, they specifically say ghetto.. Blacks may fit in this stereotype but they do not make it.... I mean what difference would this make if there was a party with a red neck white trash theme? I sure as hell wouldn't care, if people are going to angry at that stereotype perhapes they should start criticizing the people who perpatuate it.. Though I personally wouldn't attend the party and I would find it stupid, I personally wouldn't care..

Probably wouldn't be any news coverage or anything >_>..

There probably would to a extent.. I honestly don't believe in the immense double standard racism conspiracy going on.. Our media for instance has never been so liberal in which popular comedies like Family Guy, South Park etc etc make fun of every race, religion etc etc..

[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]Retaliations are completely justified in my opinion. I remember another party like this a year or so back mocking Black History Month.Pirate700

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the gheto people mock white people on a daily basis as well..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]Retaliations are completely justified in my opinion. I remember another party like this a year or so back mocking Black History Month.Pirate700

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An unneccesary month or celebration is a matter of opinion.... But that being said I actually agree, they specifically say ghetto.. Blacks may fit in this stereotype but they do not make it.... I mean what difference would this make if there was a party with a red neck white trash theme? I sure as hell wouldn't care, if people are going to angry at that stereotype perhapes they should start criticizing the people who perpatuate it.. Though I personally wouldn't attend the party and I would find it stupid, I personally wouldn't care..

sSubZerOo

Probably wouldn't be any news coverage or anything >_>..

There probably would to a extent.. I honestly don't believe in the immense double standard racism conspiracy going on.. Our media for instance has never been so liberal in which popular comedies like Family Guy, South Park etc etc make fun of every race, religion etc etc..

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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]If there was a white trash or Redneck party would you have a problem with that too?

II_Seraphim_II

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the gheto people mock white people on a daily basis as well..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Right..well..i don't think i generalized to an extreme extent...if they want to get out of that stereotype they can work hard and earn their way out..

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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]If there was a white trash or Redneck party would you have a problem with that too?

II_Seraphim_II

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the gheto people mock white people on a daily basis as well..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

I think it might have been insensitive especially during this month, but it's being blown out of proportion. It's a party, it's meant to be humorous, and obviously not every black person is a Compton gangsta or ghetto chick. They're just poking fun at that stereotype, like nerdy white people that can't dance or whatever.F1_2004

I think it might have been insensitive especially during this month, but it's being blown out of proportion. It's a party, it's meant to be humorous, and obviously not every black person is a Compton gangsta or ghetto chick. They're just poking fun at that stereotype, like nerdy white people that can't dance or whatever.F1_2004

Yep, I agree with this word for word.

[QUOTE="xTheExploited"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Wouldn't be that way if it was mocking white history month IMO..

They're just mocking an unecessary month...what's the problem...

Xx_Hopeless_xX

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the gheto people mock white people on a daily basis as well..

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]If there was a white trash or Redneck party would you have a problem with that too?

II_Seraphim_II

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the gheto people mock white people on a daily basis as well..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

The fact that the rap sub culture implies that being "ghetto" = cool begs to differ.. Regular blacks should be more annoyed along the line that this stereotype is actually not far of stretch out there.. I would agree if red neck habits and the like were seen as cool in culture, when they really arn't they are seen as extremely negative.. Ghetto outside of being used to a explain a area within a city has been used to suggest being cool often times..

Man, Pikes seem to be like this at every school, what is up with that fraternity?xaos

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]I think it might have been insensitive especially during this month, but it's being blown out of proportion. It's a party, it's meant to be humorous, and obviously not every black person is a Compton gangsta or ghetto chick. They're just poking fun at that stereotype, like nerdy white people that can't dance or whatever.Atmanix

Yep, I agree with this word for word.

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Wouldn't be that way if it was mocking white history month IMO..

They're just mocking an unecessary month...what's the problem...

clayron

No, i think it's funny that you took offense to that..

As said before, people mock white stereotypes all the time..

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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"] They are not mocking an unecessary month they are mocking a race. The themes of the party all involved stereotypes of black people who live in the ghetto. It is blatant racism.xTheExploited

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the gheto people mock white people on a daily basis as well..

You know, I don't understand all these posts about double standards. Does it matter? Something that's wrong is wrong, regardless of what other people do. So because other people are racist does that mean it's ok to be racist? So because there are double standards does that make this ok? People argue sideways here. You say "oranges are orange", and someone will say "yeah, but peaches can be orange too." like that matters or is relevant :?

You know, I don't understand all these posts about double standards. Does it matter? Something that's wrong is wrong, regardless of what other people do. So because other people are racist does that mean it's ok to be racist? So because there are double standards does that make this ok? People argue sideways here. You say "oranges are orange", and someone will say "yeah, but peaches can be orange too." like that matters or is relevant :?

II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Wouldn't be that way if it was mocking white history month IMO..

They're just mocking an unecessary month...what's the problem...

Xx_Hopeless_xX

No, i think it's funny that you took offense to that..

As said before, people mock white stereotypes all the time..

[QUOTE="xTheExploited"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the gheto people mock white people on a daily basis as well..

Pirate700

Black History Month is dedicated to all black Americans. And they said, and I quote:

"February marks a very important month in American society. No, i'm not referring to Valentines day or Presidents day. I'm talking about Black History month. As a time to celebrate and in hopes of showing respect, the Regents community cordially invites you to its very first Compton Cookout."

A stereotypical party in commemoration of a holiday that applies to all black americans. seems to me they are referring to all black americans.

You know, I don't understand all these posts about double standards. Does it matter? Something that's wrong is wrong, regardless of what other people do. So because other people are racist does that mean it's ok to be racist? So because there are double standards does that make this ok? People argue sideways here. You say "oranges are orange", and someone will say "yeah, but peaches can be orange too." like that matters or is relevant :?

II_Seraphim_II

........So by your logic South Park and Family Guy are extremely racist shows? Afterall they do the same things, they make fun of every race, religion out there including all the stereotypes.. The hick jawed white guy that is extremely racist and dumb.. The ghetto stereotype of black person with gold capped teeth and what not.. Now I wouldn't personally attend the party, but people are taking it too serious.

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You know, I don't understand all these posts about double standards. Does it matter? Something that's wrong is wrong, regardless of what other people do. So because other people are racist does that mean it's ok to be racist? So because there are double standards does that make this ok? People argue sideways here. You say "oranges are orange", and someone will say "yeah, but peaches can be orange too." like that matters or is relevant :?

Pirate700

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You know, I don't understand all these posts about double standards. Does it matter? Something that's wrong is wrong, regardless of what other people do. So because other people are racist does that mean it's ok to be racist? So because there are double standards does that make this ok? People argue sideways here. You say "oranges are orange", and someone will say "yeah, but peaches can be orange too." like that matters or is relevant :?

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="clayron"] Hopeless, you're some kind of moron aren't you? What is disturbing is not the fact that the party was thrown, which in-and-out itself is ridiculous, but the fact that people actually attended it. clayron

No, i think it's funny that you took offense to that..

As said before, people mock white stereotypes all the time..

Generally people don't ask that out of the blue...

And someone just stated they had hillbilly day...that's a white stereotype..

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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"] No, they are taking the stereotype of ghetto blacks and applying to all blacks. They are mocking a whole race through a stereotype. These are kids at a university, a pretty well known one as well. People are going to take notice of what these kids do. Society doesn't care about what happens in the ghettos. Also the fact that people of one race mock another is no justification for the opposite happening.II_Seraphim_II

Black History Month is dedicated to all black Americans. And they said, and I quote:

"February marks a very important month in American society. No, i'm not referring to Valentines day or Presidents day. I'm talking about Black History month. As a time to celebrate and in hopes of showing respect, the Regents community cordially invites you to its very first Compton Cookout."

A stereotypical party in commemoration of a holiday that applies to all black americans. seems to me they are referring to all black americans.

... So if anything they were not clear enough on what they were trying to do.. Chances are if you do something this eccentric or brash no matter how good teh attentions, someone-somewhere will be offended.. Deal with it.

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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"] No, they are taking the stereotype of ghetto blacks and applying to all blacks. They are mocking a whole race through a stereotype. These are kids at a university, a pretty well known one as well. People are going to take notice of what these kids do. Society doesn't care about what happens in the ghettos. Also the fact that people of one race mock another is no justification for the opposite happening.II_Seraphim_II

Black History Month is dedicated to all black Americans. And they said, and I quote:

"February marks a very important month in American society. No, i'm not referring to Valentines day or Presidents day. I'm talking about Black History month. As a time to celebrate and in hopes of showing respect, the Regents community cordially invites you to its very first Compton Cookout."

A stereotypical party in commemoration of a holiday that applies to all black americans. seems to me they are referring to all black americans.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

You know, I don't understand all these posts about double standards. Does it matter? Something that's wrong is wrong, regardless of what other people do. So because other people are racist does that mean it's ok to be racist? So because there are double standards does that make this ok? People argue sideways here. You say "oranges are orange", and someone will say "yeah, but peaches can be orange too." like that matters or is relevant :?

sSubZerOo

........So by your logic South Park and Family Guy are extremely racist shows? Afterall they do the same things, they make fun of every race, religion out there including all the stereotypes.. The hick jawed white guy that is extremely racist and dumb.. The ghetto stereotype of black person with gold capped teeth and what not.. Now I wouldn't personally attend the party, but people are taking it too serious.

[QUOTE="xTheExploited"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

They're mocking the black people that live in the ghetto..not the upstanding ones that rise above it..i'm sure the gheto people mock white people on a daily basis as well..

Pirate700

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

No, i think it's funny that you took offense to that..

As said before, people mock white stereotypes all the time..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Generally people don't ask that out of the blue...

And someone just stated they had hillbilly day...that's a white stereotype..