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#1 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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All but three Republicans voted down Obama's stimulus which funded those loan guarantees to Solyndra(and those three were in the senate), so how could they POSSIBLY be to blame?

Sounds a bit silly to me.

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I dont know who that guy is that wrote the article but he basically said Obama is a liar. Anyways instead of subsidizing corporations the money would of been better spent in academic research for advancment of energy technology.
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I dont know who that guy is that wrote the article but he basically said Obama is a liar. Anyways instead of subsidizing corporations the money would of been better spent in academic research for advancment of energy technology.DaBrainz

Obama is a liar, on this point. The Republicans are blameless for what happened to Solyndra. He's just playing the blame game.

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#4 chessmaster1989
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He's posturing of course. Not sure why though as the Solyndra issue seems to have been largely forgotten, and wasn't important to begin with.
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to be fair Solyndra was being funded by the Bush administration before the Obama admin, but I hardly consider more money being given to the company as a reason for Solyndra going bankrupt. I don't really see either administration shouldering the blame for the bankruptcy of this particular company so much as I see the idiocy of the company itself.

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#6 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Just heard an RNC ad that calls Obama out.

Why would he make such a blatantly false statement? On NPR, no less, when we already know who voted for the stimulus and have known for years.

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to be fair Solyndra was being funded by the Bush administration before the Obama admin, but I hardly consider more money being given to the company as a reason for Solyndra going bankrupt. I don't really see either administration shouldering the blame for the bankruptcy of this particular company so much as I see the idiocy of the company itself.

Serraph105
The Bush administration started the program for the energy department to give subsidies and loans to various companies and one of the 16 or so happen to be Solyndra. Obama accelerated the program.
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to be fair Solyndra was being funded by the Bush administration before the Obama admin, but I hardly consider more money being given to the company as a reason for Solyndra going bankrupt. I don't really see either administration shouldering the blame for the bankruptcy of this particular company so much as I see the idiocy of the company itself.

Serraph105

No, the Bush administration made the loan guarantees but it wasn't funded until the stimulus passed.

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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

to be fair Solyndra was being funded by the Bush administration before the Obama admin, but I hardly consider more money being given to the company as a reason for Solyndra going bankrupt. I don't really see either administration shouldering the blame for the bankruptcy of this particular company so much as I see the idiocy of the company itself.

airshocker

No, the Bush administration made the loan guarantees but it wasn't funded until the stimulus passed.

There were also red flags thrown up by staffers in the Bush AND Obama administrations.... which were completely ignored.

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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

to be fair Solyndra was being funded by the Bush administration before the Obama admin, but I hardly consider more money being given to the company as a reason for Solyndra going bankrupt. I don't really see either administration shouldering the blame for the bankruptcy of this particular company so much as I see the idiocy of the company itself.

DroidPhysX
The Bush administration started the program for the energy department to give subsidies and loans to various companies and one of the 16 or so happen to be Solyndra. Obama accelerated the program.

but giving more money to any company does not cause a company to go bankrupt. Bad decisions on how to use the money makes a company go bankrupt.
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]I dont know who that guy is that wrote the article but he basically said Obama is a liar. Anyways instead of subsidizing corporations the money would of been better spent in academic research for advancment of energy technology.airshocker

Obama is a liar, on this point. The Republicans are blameless for what happened to Solyndra. He's just playing the blame game.

Republicans are hardly blameless with Solyndra. The whole fiasco began under Bush. And the investors behind Solyndra contributed heavily to both Democrat and Republican campaigns. Both sides get to shoulder the blame for this one.

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He should be blaming the chinese. they've had less than fair practices when it comes to solar panels.

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He should be blaming the chinese. they've had less than fair practices when it comes to solar panels.

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Heard recently that they're slapping import fees just for that reason.
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

He should be blaming the chinese. they've had less than fair practices when it comes to solar panels.

DroidPhysX
Heard recently that they're slapping import fees just for that reason.

about time....I don't want hinder other countries from doing business with us, but if they don't want to play fair then we should at least even the odds.
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#15 deactivated-5985f1128b98f
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Come on Shocker. You know nothing bad is EVER Slappy Obammy's fault. The guys automatic reaction to ANY criticism is "Don't blame me. I inherited this bad situation, don't ya know." I swear the guy is an irresponsible teenager walking around in a man's body. Nothing is ever his fault. He's always just a victim of circumstance.
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I don't like a commander in chief who plays the blame game.
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Come on Shocker. You know nothing bad is EVER Slappy Obammy's fault. The guys automatic reaction to ANY criticism is "Don't blame me. I inherited this bad situation, don't ya know." I swear the guy is an irresponsible teenager walking around in a man's body. Nothing is ever his fault. He's always just a victim of circumstance.collegeboy64

Agreed. Dude is giving politicians a bad name.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

He should be blaming the chinese. they've had less than fair practices when it comes to solar panels.

DaBrainz

Heard recently that they're slapping import fees just for that reason.

Its just going to make things more expensive for the poor and middle class in the US.

Not necessarily. We're talking specifically about solar panels. More companies = more competition which usually accelerates improvements in quality and affordability. A monopoly created by manipulating the markets unfairly is not going to result in more longterm savings.

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I don't like a commander in chief who plays the blame game.musicalmac
are there them that don't
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Heard recently that they're slapping import fees just for that reason.sonicare

Its just going to make things more expensive for the poor and middle class in the US.

Not necessarily. We're talking specifically about solar panels. More companies = more competition which usually accelerates improvements in quality and affordability. A monopoly created by manipulating the markets unfairly is not going to result in more longterm savings.

NVM I deleted that because I posted before thinking. Poor people and middle-class people can't afford solar panels currently.
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A dishonest snake and a liar placing blame on his (on paper only) enemies? Warn me next time because that was good scotch I just spit out.
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Poor people and middle-class people can't afford solar panels currently.DaBrainz
I keep hearing about a company on the radio that installs the solar panels and pays for them (but, obviously, own them) and you pay them a monthly fee in place of your electric bill.
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good scotch.MrPraline
do share and by that i mean a dram and the brand/age :3
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Solar panals are an important investment.

I'm sure despite the company going under we got some good tech out of it.

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to be fair Solyndra was being funded by the Bush administration before the Obama admin, but I hardly consider more money being given to the company as a reason for Solyndra going bankrupt. I don't really see either administration shouldering the blame for the bankruptcy of this particular company so much as I see the idiocy of the company itself.

Serraph105

According to the article:

"Obama rightly notes that Congress created with bipartisan support an Energy Department loan guarantee program for clean energy start-ups in 2005, during the George W. Bush administration.

However, he incorrectly suggests Solyndra received its financing from that 2005 appropriation of funds. Instead, the company's $500 million in fast-tracked loan guarantees came from a new section of the program created by the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, also known as the stimulus. The Recovery Act did not receive any GOP votes."

Thus it seems that Solyndra was not funded under the Bush administration.

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Solar panals are an important investment.

I'm sure despite the company going under we got some good tech out of it.

TopTierHustler
Don't know about any tech, but its for damn sure Barry got some killer cash campaign donations out of it. And in the end isn't that all we should care about. That it benefitted our Dear Leader.
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]good scotch.Jandurin
do share and by that i mean a dram and the brand/age :3

[spoiler] isn't that good sadly needed to make a point (ends justify the means) but its some blended thingy thats not bad actually, will go shopping after work tomorrow [/spoiler]
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[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Solar panals are an important investment.

I'm sure despite the company going under we got some good tech out of it.

collegeboy64
Don't know about any tech, but its for damn sure Barry got some killer cash campaign donations out of it. And in the end isn't that all we should care about. That it benefitted our Dear Leader.

Basically.
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but its some blended thingy thats not bad actually, will go shopping after work tomorrow MrPraline
i've actually had some decent blends before but single malts yum
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]I don't like a commander in chief who plays the blame game.Jandurin
are there them that don't

George Washington? Abe Lincoln?

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]but its some blended thingy thats not bad actually, will go shopping after work tomorrow Jandurin
i've actually had some decent blends before but single malts yum

yeah man. Hits the spot right now. Should get something nice for the weekend. Got a bonus during my review the other day so it'll be CORPORATE FUNDED (just like Obama's whole presidency, just to stay on topic, you understand).
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to be fair Solyndra was being funded by the Bush administration before the Obama admin, but I hardly consider more money being given to the company as a reason for Solyndra going bankrupt. I don't really see either administration shouldering the blame for the bankruptcy of this particular company so much as I see the idiocy of the company itself.

Serraph105

Well I guess the blame for the company going bankrupt should fall on the company, not any President (they didn't make it go bankrupt). But I think the criticism of the President is that heloaned money to a company that went bankrupt and now we won't get that money back.

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They all blame eachother for everything, they all act like little kids. I find it odd that the main goal of the Republican Party seems to be kicking Obama out of office, they don't talk about anything else.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]I don't like a commander in chief who plays the blame game.whipassmt

are there them that don't

George Washington? Abe Lincoln?

?????????????????????????????????
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Solyndra is all Obama's mess. He is just doing what all politicians do, pass the buck.

Obama = more of the same, which really upsets the people that actually bought his garbage.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]I don't like a commander in chief who plays the blame game.whipassmt

are there them that don't

George Washington? Abe Lincoln?

Does JoeRatz16 like them?
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Solyndra is all Obama's mess. He is just doing what all politicians do, pass the buck.

Obama = more of the same, which really upsets the people that actually bought his garbage.

Fizzman

I wonder if they want their money back.

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] are there them that don'tMrPraline

George Washington? Abe Lincoln?

Does JoeRatz16 like them?

Are you trying to let wipeass speak for joe rat????
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] George Washington? Abe Lincoln?

Jandurin

Does JoeRatz16 like them?

Are you trying to let wipeass speak for joe rat????

Jandu, I see your campaign to get MrPraline freed worked.

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speak for joe rat????Jandurin
he is my connection to mr Ratz the 16th. He prefers to keep to himself.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] Does JoeRatz16 like them?whipassmt

Are you trying to let wipeass speak for joe rat????

Jandu, I see your campaign to get MrPraline freed worked.

:}
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] are there them that don'tMrPraline

George Washington? Abe Lincoln?

Does JoeRatz16 like them?

Like them? I carved their figures upon Mt. Rushmore. Those Presidents really send a tingle up my leg!

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]speak for joe rat????MrPraline
he is my connection to mr Ratz the 16th. He prefers to keep to himself.

who been talkin' about me?

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Doesn't he blame the republicans for everything? Good grief.

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] George Washington? Abe Lincoln?

JoeRatz16

Does JoeRatz16 like them?

Like them? I carved their figures upon Mt. Rushmore. Those Presidents really send a tingle up my leg!

:lol:
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] George Washington? Abe Lincoln?

JoeRatz16

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Like them? I carved their figures upon Mt. Rushmore. Those Presidents really send a tingle up my leg!

LOL
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Quick, someone send him an Etch-a-Sketch.
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Obama has done no wrong here, he inherited a bad situation.

Why would he make such a blatantly false statement?

airshocker
aren't you a Romney supporter? it's gotta bug you when he makes false statements all the time, right?