No Murder Charge For Man Who Killed Daughter's Molester

So, it's *never* okay for a woman to cause the death of an assailant who is raping her?Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]So, it's *never* okay for a woman to cause the death of an assailant who is raping her?Zeviander

given that this is the motive for terrorists i do not approve, i feel for the father but killing another man will not solve the problem or take back the pain that his daughter had experienced. there are many stories where us soldiers molest or rape youth in the countries that they are stationed in and they just get a slap on the wrist for doing so.

given that this is the motive for terrorists i do not approve, i feel for the father but killing another man will not solve the problem or take back the pain that his daughter had experienced. there are many stories where us soldiers molest or rape youth in the countries that they are stationed in and they just get a slap on the wrist for doing so.

ChiefvsGordon

The father should have gotten manslaughter charge. He was remorseful and didn't intentionally kill the man, but a man is still dead because of his actions. He used excessive force. In a majority of cases a child molestor does not get the death penalty, so it was unjust for him to kill him because although I am sure everyone here disagrees, rape is a lesser crime than murder.

If I was in the situation of the father, there is a chance I would have done what he did, and if I did, I would expect a manslaughter charge. However, I would be more likely to try to protect my daughter and remove her from the situation rather than pummel the guy to death. Yes I would use great force to get him off her, but I would know better than to beat him multiple times in the head.

He used excessive force.cgi15

And by just pulling him off he is far from neutralized. themajormayor

HEY FOXHOUND i have a question i'm aware that your whole point is law is blind to our wants/desires/feelings but how can you say "he should have just pulled him off" what if the guy had pulled him off and then the guy hit his head on a counter and died? how do you know that punching him wasn't the best way to handle the situation? do you know how hard it is to break someone's arm/legJandurin

Is Zeciander Foxhoundfox's alt? I was kind of confused when I saw his avatar but on a different account.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]HEY FOXHOUND i have a question i'm aware that your whole point is law is blind to our wants/desires/feelings but how can you say "he should have just pulled him off" what if the guy had pulled him off and then the guy hit his head on a counter and died? how do you know that punching him wasn't the best way to handle the situation? do you know how hard it is to break someone's arm/legStealthMonkey4

Is Zeciander Foxhoundfox's alt? I was kind of confused when I saw his avatar but on a different account.

Anyone else notice the rapist's name was Jesus?:lol:

Diablo-B

Regardless, all of this is just posturing as most people know that very few people would actually go all out and convict the father on murder or a related charge like that. l4dak47

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Regardless, all of this is just posturing as most people know that very few people would actually go all out and convict the father on murder or a related charge like that. SteverXIII

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]So awful that people are criticising a man for defending his daughter against sexual assault in progress.SteverXIII

When our justice system tries to protect criminals as vile as child molesters, something is terribly wrong.

That's what those who think the father should be prosecuted are really advocating for.

[QUOTE="SteverXIII"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]So awful that people are criticising a man for defending his daughter against sexual assault in progress.GrayF0X786

When our justice system tries to protect criminals as vile as child molesters, something is terribly wrong.airshocker

When our justice system tries to protect criminals as vile as child molesters, something is terribly wrong.

That's what those who think the father should be prosecuted are really advocating for.

airshocker

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="SteverXIII"] There is a difference between defending and using unnecessary force. Stopping the threat - fine Continuing the assault after the threat has been neutralized? - Not coolJandurin

When our justice system tries to protect criminals as vile as child molesters, something is terribly wrong.

That's what those who think the father should be prosecuted are really advocating for.

airshocker

So you think there should be anarchy and people should try to be vigilantes just go around murdering people with their bare fists rather than actually letting the law deal with criminals.:roll:

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] please dont have any children in the future, just dont.

GrayF0X786

Why shouldn't they be protected? Everyone deserves the right to a fair trial.SteverXIII

We're not talking about a trial. We're talking about punishing a man for defending his daughter. That's disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

When our justice system tries to protect criminals as vile as child molesters, something is terribly wrong.

That's what those who think the father should be prosecuted are really advocating for.

StealthMonkey4

So you think there should be anarchy and people should try to be vigilantes just go around murdering people with their bare fists rather than actually letting the law deal with criminals.:roll:

So you think there should be anarchy and people should try to be vigilantes just go around murdering people with their bare fists rather than actually letting the law deal with criminals.:roll:

StealthMonkey4

No, I think defending someone from being raped by killing the attacker shouldn't warrant any type of criminal prosecution.

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] the real problem here is how do you know when the threat is neutralized? presumably this all happened in a flashJandurin

We're talking about punishing a man for defending his daughter.airshocker

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] if a man tries to even touch my young daughter, he will be dead. no rapist deserves to live, doing that to a young girl will forever ruin her life, her future will be scared and she will forever be tormented by it, like i said, rapists do not deserve to live.pie-junior

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] the real problem here is how do you know when the threat is neutralized? presumably this all happened in a flashJandurin

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

So you think there should be anarchy and people should try to be vigilantes just go around murdering people with their bare fists rather than actually letting the law deal with criminals.:roll:

airshocker

No, I think defending someone from being raped by killing the attacker shouldn't warrant any type of criminal prosecution.

There's other ways to stop the rape besides bashing him to death with his fists....

I have a problem with him continually beating the guy after he was no longer a threat.SteverXIII

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

So you think there should be anarchy and people should try to be vigilantes just go around murdering people with their bare fists rather than actually letting the law deal with criminals.:roll:

StealthMonkey4

No, I think defending someone from being raped by killing the attacker shouldn't warrant any type of criminal prosecution.

There's other ways to stop the rape besides bashing him to death with his fists....

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

So you think there should be anarchy and people should try to be vigilantes just go around murdering people with their bare fists rather than actually letting the law deal with criminals.:roll:

airshocker

No, I think defending someone from being raped by killing the attacker shouldn't warrant any type of criminal prosecution.

Defending? I've never once said in this thread that I had a problem with him defending his daughter, I have a problem with him continually beating the guy after he was no longer a threat.SteverXIII

You obviously do if you expect someone to be reasonable when someone is trying to commit seriously bodily harm to a family member.

News flash, not everyone is a police officer, or trained to only use force that is reasonably necessary to stop the threat.

[QUOTE="SteverXIII"]I have a problem with him continually beating the guy after he was no longer a threat.Jandurin

[QUOTE="airshocker"]We're talking about punishing a man for defending his daughter.SteverXIII

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="SteverXIII"]I have a problem with him continually beating the guy after he was no longer a threat.SteverXIII

You are a fking JOKE.GrayF0X786

There's other ways to stop the rape besides bashing him to death with his fists....

StealthMonkey4

Are you joking? What do you expect this guy to do? Get him in a chokehold and some how incapacitate him? What if the man gets out and then kills the father?

Go screw yourself with your kid gloves. If you were being attacked you would want someone to ensure that attacker STOPS attacking you.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

She had already been sexually assaulted, he wasn't preventing it and then he just pounds his face in out of anger, if he actually cared about the guy dying, he wouldn't have beat him to death with his f***ing bare fists.

StealthMonkey4

I agree with airshocker, you are a troll and one of the greatest magnitude. This sentence alone means you failed to read the linked article or listen to any video. There was no semen found on the girl as the man was beginning his sexual assault on the girl. The father pulled the man off the girl before he could finish his assault.

Go away troll.

I read the article on OP, and it didn't mention any of this. In any case, the fact that there is a law stating you can murder someone in cold blood with your bare fists to stop a sexual assault (the article stated she was already being raped) is ridiculous. And he didn't just pull him off... that would be fine, he pulled him off and pounded him to death with his bare fists. You're a disgusting human being if you condone this barbaric behavior. Two wrongs don't make a right, and you shouldn't beat a man to death because he raped your daughter, this isn't anarchy, we have laws in place for rape, you shouldn't try to be a vigilante and murder your daughter's rapist. I don't see what's wrong with my thinking here, any decent human being would agree with me.

You proved my assertion that you didn't even watch the video and listen to what the prosecutor said in the press conference. You may have read the article, but it looks as if you glossed over it just enough to see that the man wouldn't be charged. The father did not set out to murder the man sexually assaulting his daughter, but he did want to exact some justice. You cannot sit here and tell this forum that you would not have beat a man trying to rape your 5 year old daughter.

Please, do not breed. No real criminals would be put in jail and victims of crime would be if you and others like you had your way.