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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]
Yeah, totally. It's the 21st century and modern medicine can detect pregnancies that can be potentially fatal to the mother, and require an abortion. There shouldn't be leeway for that.:roll:
jimkabrhel
Modern medicine can also resolve those issues in other ways than resorting to a direct abortion. For instance in ectopic pregnancies (which tend to be more likely in women who have previously had an abortion), one of the circumstances that is frequently used to justify an abortion, there are other options which are not direct abortions (such as salpingectomies).Also even were abortion to be illegal, there would probably some leeway for doctors in such medical situations. Or there could be a situation like Poland, where abortion is legal for certain medical reasons (though the Poles are trying to close some loopholes in those laws) if the abortion is certified by a panel of doctors.
My wife had an ectopic pregnancy last year. We had to make some difficult choices, and none of them we're positive, but by most definitions that the current GOP is offering in their abortion bills, what we chose to do was an abortion.
You mentioned asalpingectomy. When you have had trouble with fertility for many years, having such a procedure becomes less of an option.
These kind of discussion remind me that personhood amendments restrict so many things, that they shouldn't be considered. And most people haven't had to deal with a situation that may require an abortion. You cannot understand the emotions that are involved until you have those emotions.
I'm pro choice, though I disgree with most random abortions. You shouldn't end the potential for life unless it's absolutely necessary, but I firmly believe it should be up to the woman, or the couple to make the choice, not the government.
should the man have any legal right to veto the abortion of his offspring? Should minors have to get parental consent or at least notify their parents?should laws requiring abortion-providers to report data (i.e. age of the mother, gestational age of the fetus) to the dept. of public health include penalties for failing to comply?
Moreover the only federal restrictions on abortion that Republicans will be able to pass are things like parental consent laws, late-term abortion bans (particularly after the fetus can feel pain). That being said I think their main concentration as far as abortion goes will be on preventing tax-payer funding of abortion and abortion providers.
On a more important and personal note, Jim, I would have to inform you (not to disparage you or anything like that, only to inform and advise, though I must be clear that according to the teaching of the Church these reasons do not justify an abortion), that your wife has likely incurred excommunication latae sententiae excommunication under canon 1398 of the code of canon law (as has anyone else who knowingly and willingly helped her in this act, even if only by moral support). As such she cannot exercise any ministerial function (reader, etc.) in the Church, nor may she receive the sacraments (I think she can still attend Mass however and she would still have the obligation to raise her children - if she has any - in the Faith). I would urge you and your wife to discuss this with your parish priest, so that the situation may be resolved and the excommunication may be lifted.
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