Mother who strangled her autistic son walks free.

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#101 T_P_O
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Oh, wait, they're journalists who took english classes, not law classes. Nibroc420
well, neither did you
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#102 HoolaHoopMan
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] And yet they have children. Some people are just idiots.Nibroc420

Many women suffer from depression caused by pregnancy, how were they supposed to know?


So they should get help, not wait 10 years only to strangle their child in a hotel room with a belt.

I'm not referring to this case specifically. I'm referring to you calling people who suffer from depression and have kids being "Idiots".

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#103 Dan_Lero
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Autism isn't real.Fightingfan
Care to elaborate?
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#104 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Unlawful yet intentional. Which would be considered pre-meditated.T_P_O

Well, I expected this to end up here. I do not know quite how to tell you this (well, I do, because I told you this before), but yeah, if you are trying to prove a murder in the jurisdiction of England and Wales, that is not the definition you'll have to satisfy. The context is kind of important, since the legal definition of murder varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Dictionary definitions are kind of stupid to use in cases like this.

And I'm just going to "in before" you here: I didn't say that the UK definition was universal, I've implied your definition was wrong in the context of the UK criminal justice system.

You said my definition was wrong based on the UK system, and that it was "probbably wrong" in all the countries. (I have you quoted btw.) Now, because it seems i have to fully explain this..


dic·tion·ar·y/ˈdikSHəˌnerē/
Noun: A book that lists the words of a language in alphabetical order and gives their meaning, or that gives the equivalent words in a different language.

To not use the actual meaning of a word, when using the word wouldn't make sense.
As such, when using a word, use the word with the correct definition. In this case...

mur·der/ˈmərdər/ Noun: The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
The mother's actions were.
1.) Illegal.(unlawful)
2.) resulted in death. (killing)
3.) Were thought out prior to doing it, as was stated in the article.

As such, she is a murderer.

Doesn't take much to come to a logical conclusion.

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#105 T_P_O
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[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]Unlawful yet intentional. Which would be considered pre-meditated.Nibroc420

Well, I expected this to end up here. I do not know quite how to tell you this (well, I do, because I told you this before), but yeah, if you are trying to prove a murder in the jurisdiction of England and Wales, that is not the definition you'll have to satisfy. The context is kind of important, since the legal definition of murder varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Dictionary definitions are kind of stupid to use in cases like this.

And I'm just going to "in before" you here: I didn't say that the UK definition was universal, I've implied your definition was wrong in the context of the UK criminal justice system.

You said my definition was wrong based on the UK system, and that it was "probbably wrong" in all the countries. (I have you quoted btw.) Now, because it seems i have to fully explain this..


dic·tion·ar·y/ˈdikSHəˌnerē/
Noun: A book that lists the words of a language in alphabetical order and gives their meaning, or that gives the equivalent words in a different language.

To not use the actual meaning of a word, when using the word wouldn't make sense.
As such, when using a word, use the word with the correct definition. In this case...

mur·der/ˈmərdər/ Noun: The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
The mother's actions were.
1.) Illegal.(unlawful)
2.) resulted in death. (killing)
3.) Were thought out prior to doing it, as was stated in the article.

As such, she is a murderer.

Doesn't take much to come to a logical conclusion.

I've pondered how to answer this. The most obvious response is "lol". The best response would be to tell you the following: I said "in the UK system", not "based on"; I admitted I made a mistake (though how big of a mistake it would've been idk) and said "in all the common law countries", like England and Wales; the dictionary definition is not what must be satisfied to prove murder in the UK, and hence, is unsuitable in the context of this case; we know context is important. My response is: lol, I'm going to smoke and watch TDH play mafia.
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#106 GreySeal9
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Autism isn't real.Fightingfan

I'm thinking you listen to Michael Savage or someone similar. Am I right?

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#107 Shottayouth13-
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This lady is slicker than OJ. In all seriousness however, I don't agree with the judges decision. She murdered her own son, regardless of his autism and how hard it was for her care for him, she still MURDERED her own son. She should have gotten some time.
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#108 CaveJohnson1
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] And yet they have children. Some people are just idiots.Nibroc420

Many women suffer from depression caused by pregnancy, how were they supposed to know?


So they should get help, not wait 10 years only to strangle their child in a hotel room with a belt.

U win the thread

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#109 JustPlainLucas
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The woman needed a lot of help before it ever got this far... Sad regardless of what you thought the outcome should be.