Is pedophilia a sickness or is it just a feeling towards young people?

It changes with the times, the legal age in some U.S. states was 7 up until 1890 ish.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]It's not an illness. "Pedophilia" is found everywhere in nature. But that doesn't mean it should be allowed since it can harm children.Stesilaus

I'd contend that religious indoctrination is potentially far more harmful to a child than consensual sex with a caring adult. Yet religious indoctrination of children is permitted in the US.

It changes with the times, the legal age in some U.S. states was 7 up until 1890 ish.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Child preadators don't deserve tolerance. People that tolerate them are mentally ill.

ShadowMoses900

There isn't any evidence that people are born as pedophiles, there isn't any real evidence that says people are born with any sexual desires. Pedophiles are a danger to society, they are a ticking time bomb. It's only a matter of time before they act, if they haven't then they need to be checked into a mental ward where they can be treated and never let out.

Most pedophiles do not care however, their brain patters are similar to that of rapists and seriel killers. They lack empathy and compassion, no conscionce, that is why they are capable of doing the sick things they do. I often worry about people on OT, including you, so many people here defend pedphiles and incest and other sick sh!t. Do you guys even live in reality? If the average person saw the things you guys support they would think there would be something wrong with you.

People that defend pedophiles makes me wonder about them....about who they really are....

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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]Everyone jokes about hitting on 15 and 16 year olds so I don't think its uncommon.....MrPraline

Ofcourse it's a sickness!!!!!

It's horrible!

Btw,to anyone who thinks teens are kids,you're wrong.

Technically,they are between kids & adults.

So don't include them.

The correct term for liking teens is hebephilia.

NOT the same.

GreekGameManiac

OT is many things but if you came here for reassurance, you made a mistake.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Is this a joke post?lonewolf604

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

Ofcourse it's a sickness!!!!!

It's horrible!

Btw,to anyone who thinks teens are kids,you're wrong.

Technically,they are between kids & adults.

So don't include them.

The correct term for liking teens is hebephilia.

NOT the same.

themajormayor

:lol:... hentai

like any other sexual paraphilia: necrophilia, zoophilia, sadism, and masochism

It's something people can't control, in that sense, like homosexuality as well, though I don't think pedophilia is a sexual orientation, more like a division of sexuality.

It's been misunderstood, and became a target of modern witch hunt, it's one of the proofs that modern society really hasn't moved on much from the middle ages.

Should it be a mental disorder? well, for the convenience of the public, I guess there are reasons keeping it a "mental disorder", but then again mental disorder is just artificial created labels for deviance, especially for socially stigmatized ones. Just being logical here, if homosexuality (once been a mental disorder) is not, why is pedophilia a mental disorder?

Ncsoftlover

Stop thinking that just because you don't like something it automatically makes it paraphillia.

And fyi,pedophillia isn't even a paraphilia,imo atleast.

Paraphillias can be ok,liking kids is SICK!

Don't put them in the same class!

[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]It's not an illness. "Pedophilia" is found everywhere in nature. But that doesn't mean it should be allowed since it can harm children.sonicare

I'd contend that religious indoctrination is potentially far more harmful to a child than consensual sex with a caring adult. Yet religious indoctrination of children is permitted in the US.

Rapist: She said "no", but I know she meant "yes".

Prosecutor: She said "yes", but I know she meant "no".

:roll:

Paedophilia isn't immoral per se since no one can really be blamed for an urge they don't choose to have, but obviously acting on that urge is immoralMannyDelgado

that also depends, in the 70's people having relationship with 15 year olds is perfectly normal, these days people want their intestines cut out. while in China, age of consent is 14, Japan 13, Spain 13, these relationships continue to be normal. I'm sure hundred of years ago, 15 would be the normal age of marriage, and giving birth to children, so it's all perspective.

Age of consent vastly differs from one place to another, people are socially conditioned to confuse age of consent to age of "Acceptable attraction". So in the states, attraction toward a girl 17 years 364 days 23 hours old would probably be an abomination, while in China, when the Age of consent is 14, such a social attitude does not exist at all, these days, the westerns societies are being more conserved, possibily feeling guilty as a society for the sexual liberation movement.

See the truth is, from the nature's point of view, if a child go through sexual development (age 11 to 12), then it's perfectly normal to feel sexual attraction toward them, if you feel it's an abomination to feel sexual attraction toward a 13 years old, it's social conditioning at work, I don't think there's anything unnatural about it. Certainly our ancesters from 500 years old wouldn't think there's anything unnatural about it, but then again, our ancester would think homosexuality is unnatural, so, it's all perspectives.

Whether it's moral or not to have sex with a 13 years old, that's a completely different topic all together, but the attraction itself, is nothing unnatural. And no, people feeling a perfect natural attraction should not be in prison for the rest of their lives being raped and killed by double convicted murderers.

People also never realize that pedophilia is about feeling sexual attraction toward prepubescent children, so sexual attraction toward anyone older than 11, is not pedophilia, pedophilia itself is an attraction that's not so much logical, but then again, homosexuality is not that logical to begin with, so if it doesn't hurt anyone, why would the attraction itself be so stigmatized.

Does being a heterosexual meaning you will go out and rape women? If not, why are people willing to put pedophiles forever in prison for thought crimes, and why do people assume that pedophiles will just go out and harm Children? There's no grounds for such statement. They're just finding the next target now that gays are not popular to hate.

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

like any other sexual paraphilia: necrophilia, zoophilia, sadism, and masochism

It's something people can't control, in that sense, like homosexuality as well, though I don't think pedophilia is a sexual orientation, more like a division of sexuality.

It's been misunderstood, and became a target of modern witch hunt, it's one of the proofs that modern society really hasn't moved on much from the middle ages.

Should it be a mental disorder? well, for the convenience of the public, I guess there are reasons keeping it a "mental disorder", but then again mental disorder is just artificial created labels for deviance, especially for socially stigmatized ones. Just being logical here, if homosexuality (once been a mental disorder) is not, why is pedophilia a mental disorder?

GreekGameManiac

Stop thinking that just because you don't like something it automatically makes it paraphillia.

And fyi,pedophillia isn't even a paraphilia,imo atleast.

Paraphillias can be ok,liking kids is SICK!

Don't put them in the same class!

no, it's perception, having sexual attraction toward a shoebox and having sexual attraction toward a 8 years old boy seem to me like they are in the same category. I don't think any one thought is really objectively worse than any other. It's just that people are more sensitive to kids that's all.

It's the action that matters, not the thought, I mean afterall, name me a human being that never for a second thought of killing someone.

It's the action that matters, not the thought, I mean afterall, name me a human being that never for a second thought of killing someone.Ncsoftlover

it's a paraphilia, therefore it is a diagnosable illness. Most pedophiles never act on their urges.Apocalypse33

That's debatable, personally, I don't think anyone would label sadomasochism (and all those kinky stuff) as mental disorders, they're as strange as pedophilia to some, but they're not as stigmatized and you know the reason why. My question is, just because pedophilia is more stigmatized, that automatically makes it a mental disorder? And I thought clinical psychiatry is serious business that's non biased here!

Everyone jokes about hitting on 15 and 16 year olds so I don't think its uncommon.....lonewolf604

I don't know how many times should I clarify this, that is not pedophilia, sexual attraction toward a 15 or 16 year old is not unnatural, they are not prepubescent, age of consent in most countries in the world allow sexual activitiy with 16 year olds.

In Canada for example, even 12 year old can engage in sexual activity with a 14 year old, while 15 year old can legally have sex with a 20 year old, though it's not okay it the older person is 22, for example.

I guess it depends how loose we are with the term illness, though, it certainly could be. I am far too uneducated on the matter.

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]Everyone jokes about hitting on 15 and 16 year olds so I don't think its uncommon.....Ncsoftlover

I don't know how many times should I clarify this, that is not pedophilia, sexual attraction toward a 15 or 16 year old is not unnatural, they are not prepubescent, age of consent in most countries in the world allow sexual activitiy with 16 year olds.

In Canada for example, 12 year old can engage in sexual activity with a 14 year old, while 15 year old can legally have sex with a 20 year old, though it's not okay it the older person is 22, for example.

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]Everyone jokes about hitting on 15 and 16 year olds so I don't think its uncommon.....lonewolf604

I don't know how many times should I clarify this, that is not pedophilia, sexual attraction toward a 15 or 16 year old is not unnatural, they are not prepubescent, age of consent in most countries in the world allow sexual activitiy with 16 year olds.

In Canada for example, 12 year old can engage in sexual activity with a 14 year old, while 15 year old can legally have sex with a 20 year old, though it's not okay it the older person is 22, for example.

Hmm, of course you're right, more people have pedophilia tendencies than they would care to admit, if not, how do you explain the 9 year olds marriages through out human history?

whether a person looks developed or not is entirely subjective. Would a Chinese 14 years old girl look developed to an American for example? But in China, she is of age of consent and could legally have sex with anyone of any age, while the American would definitely be socially conditioned to feel "guilty" about having feeling toward a seemingly "underdeveloped" 14 year old asian girl, but then, what is the standard baseline for looking "developed", would Chinese feel guilty about such attractions, probably not, so again, perceptions.

No matter how underdeveloped the 15 year old may look, she/he has been through sexual development, if nature has an intentions, what does that tell you? Why would anything be "unnatural" but exist? In fact, I'd argue there's nothing "unnatural" being attracted to a 7 years old either, using the argument that if it exist then it's can't be unnatural, it might be deviant and abnormal, but then left handedness is alsoabnormal, but not unnatural.

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]it's a paraphilia, therefore it is a diagnosable illness. Most pedophiles never act on their urges.Ncsoftlover

That's debatable, personally, I don't think anyone would label sadomasochism (and all those kinky stuff) as mental disorders, they're as strange as pedophilia to some, but they're not as stigmatized and you know the reason why. My question is, just because pedophilia is more stigmatized, that automatically makes it a mental disorder? And I thought clinical psychiatry is serious business that's non biased here!

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]it's a paraphilia, therefore it is a diagnosable illness. Most pedophiles never act on their urges.Apocalypse33

That's debatable, personally, I don't think anyone would label sadomasochism (and all those kinky stuff) as mental disorders, they're as strange as pedophilia to some, but they're not as stigmatized and you know the reason why. My question is, just because pedophilia is more stigmatized, that automatically makes it a mental disorder? And I thought clinical psychiatry is serious business that's non biased here!

no one has ever answered me, why is pedophilia a mental disorder and homosexuality no longer is and (why it used to be).

Clinical psychiatry is more often than not a joke, that's the answer.

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]it's a paraphilia, therefore it is a diagnosable illness. Most pedophiles never act on their urges.Apocalypse33

That's debatable, personally, I don't think anyone would label sadomasochism (and all those kinky stuff) as mental disorders, they're as strange as pedophilia to some, but they're not as stigmatized and you know the reason why. My question is, just because pedophilia is more stigmatized, that automatically makes it a mental disorder? And I thought clinical psychiatry is serious business that's non biased here!

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