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#1 branketra
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This article is from telegraph.co.uk. Although the article has a July date I would like to conserve about that vehicle now.

In the 65-year history of Ferrari, V12 gran turismos are some of the most evocative cars that ever rolled out of Maranello. Gorgeous to behold, big and insanely powerful, these front-engined behemoths simultaneously conjured images of luxurious peregrination and the winning podium for tough endurance races.

Up to the early Sixties and the realisation of the superior agility and better aerodynamics of a mid-engined configuration, big V12 GTs such as the original 275 GTB, the 1968 365 GTB/4 Daytona and even the 1996 550 Maranello, did two jobs, racing and touring (grandly). Ferrari has persevered with the GT notion, however, through the 2002 575M and 2006 599, culminating in the monstrous 2010 599 GTO.

And now we have the F12, a replacement front-engined V12 and, at 730bhp, the most powerful road-going Ferrari ever built. The figures are boggling. This 6,262cc, 65-degree V12 is loosely based on the Enzo block, with direct fuel injection - it revs out at a screaming 8,700rpm. The compression ratio is a barely believable 13.5:1, and the piston crowns only survive thanks to meticulous control of combustion. The intake plenum chambers that sit atop the engine look like a couple of red crackle-finish ant eaters under the bonnet.

A seven-speed, twin-clutch gearbox sits in a transaxle and is operated via paddles behind the steering wheel. Top speed is 211mph, 0-62mph takes 3.1sec, the Combined fuel consumption is 18.8mpg with carbon dioxide emissions of 350g/km. It goes on sale next spring at £239,736, halfway between the outgoing 599 GTB (£212,096) and the GTO (£299,950) a bargain, then.

Like the first Audi A8s, Jaguars XJ, the new Mercedes-Benz SL and the forthcoming new Range Rover, the F12s space frame and coachwork is all aluminium. Four hollow die castings sit at each corner, connected with extruded and sheet material, which is glued, riveted, welded and bolted together. Two more castings sit at each end of the transmission tunnel, spreading loads and distributing impact forces the F12 passes world-wide crash requirements to 2018.

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#2 Pirate700
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What are we discussing here?

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This is funny I was literally just reading an article about this car 15 mins ago! It looks like a complete beast, tbh. 0-60 will be right around 3 secs, top speed of 212 MPH, probably the best road Ferrari ever, closing in on Enzo top seed, with faster acceleration.

EDIT: Damn better MPG than I expected too. Not quite Mclaren MP4 levels of MPG but damn good for a supercar.

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#4 branketra
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What are we discussing here?

Pirate700
I would like to know what you and other users' opinions are about the Ferrari. Personally, I think it is a great vehicle with a 6.3-liter V-12 engine at 730 horsepower at 8250 revolutions per minute.
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#5 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

What are we discussing here?

BranKetra

I would like to know what you and other users' opinions are about the Ferrari. Personally, I think it is a great vehicle with a 6.3-liter V-12 engine at 730 horsepower at 8250 revolutions per minute.

I like it but I'm not sure about the looks. It looks exactly like the new Scion and that's not a look I want in a car that costs more than most people's house. :P

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#6 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

What are we discussing here?

BranKetra

I would like to know what you and other users' opinions are about the Ferrari. Personally, I think it is a great vehicle with a 6.3-liter V-12 engine at 730 horsepower at 8250 revolutions per minute.

I personally think it's for someone who wants something a little more bold than a McLaren, which is very much function over form, but doesn't want something as brutish as the Aventador.

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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

What are we discussing here?

Pirate700

I would like to know what you and other users' opinions are about the Ferrari. Personally, I think it is a great vehicle with a 6.3-liter V-12 engine at 730 horsepower at 8250 revolutions per minute.

I like it but I'm not sure about the looks. It looks exactly like the new Scion and that's not a look I want in a car that costs more than most people's house. :P

Translation: I am not a baller.

:P

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#8 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"] I would like to know what you and other users' opinions are about the Ferrari. Personally, I think it is a great vehicle with a 6.3-liter V-12 engine at 730 horsepower at 8250 revolutions per minute.Aljosa23

I like it but I'm not sure about the looks. It looks exactly like the new Scion and that's not a look I want in a car that costs more than most people's house. :P

Translation: I am not a baller.

:P

:lol: I surely am not. I'm rolling in my bone stock truck.

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My opinion? Why can't I win the lottery.

I moved a guy with an Audi R8 the other month, and I wanted to drive it soooo bad :(

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:lol: I surely am not. I'm rolling in my bone stock truck.Pirate700

Don't worry...[spoiler] I use public transit [/spoiler] :(

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#11 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

What are we discussing here?

Pirate700

I would like to know what you and other users' opinions are about the Ferrari. Personally, I think it is a great vehicle with a 6.3-liter V-12 engine at 730 horsepower at 8250 revolutions per minute.

I like it but I'm not sure about the looks. It looks exactly like the new Scion and that's not a look I want in a car that costs more than most people's house. :P

I think it looks different imo, but I really do like the Scion TC as far as cheap-average level cars go. It seems like it performs nicely for the price and looks pretty good too.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"] I would like to know what you and other users' opinions are about the Ferrari. Personally, I think it is a great vehicle with a 6.3-liter V-12 engine at 730 horsepower at 8250 revolutions per minute.TacticalDesire

I like it but I'm not sure about the looks. It looks exactly like the new Scion and that's not a look I want in a car that costs more than most people's house. :P

I think it looks different imo, but I really do like the Scion TC as far as cheap-average level cars go. It seems like it performs nicely for the price and looks pretty good too.

I'm talking about the FR. It loks IDENTICAL...

2013_scion_fr-s_f34_ns_120111_717.jpg

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#13 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

:lol: I surely am not. I'm rolling in my bone stock truck.Aljosa23

Don't worry...[spoiler] I use public transit [/spoiler] :(

Oh I'm not. I love my truck. I just know it's not balla. :P

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#14 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I like it but I'm not sure about the looks. It looks exactly like the new Scion and that's not a look I want in a car that costs more than most people's house. :P

Pirate700

I think it looks different imo, but I really do like the Scion TC as far as cheap-average level cars go. It seems like it performs nicely for the price and looks pretty good too.

I'm talking about the FR. It loks IDENTICAL...

2013_scion_fr-s_f34_ns_120111_717.jpg

My mistake. It is relatively similar, but from the side the F12 is a lot longer looking. Imo it kind of resembles an Aston in that regard.

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Here's a 2013 Vanquish

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#15 Pirate700
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The Vanquish is a much sexier car for less money. IMO, Ferrari is getting way too "safe" with their designs lately. They don't need to look like a fighter jet like a Lambo but they don't have enough in your face styling anymore.

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#16 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

:lol: I surely am not. I'm rolling in my bone stock truck.Pirate700

Don't worry...[spoiler] I use public transit [/spoiler] :(

Oh I'm not. I love my truck. I just know it's not balla. :P

Trucks can be balla don't let anyone tell you otherwise:P.

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The Vanquish is a much sexier car for less money.

Pirate700

Yeah it does look great, and it is alot less, albeit still out of my price range, but the performance is of course the big difference. I'm not actually altogether familar with the Vanquish specs w/o looking them up, but I doubt they're in the F12's range.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

The Vanquish is a much sexier car for less money.

TacticalDesire

Yeah it does look great, and it is alot less, albeit still out of my price range, but the performance is of course the big difference. I'm not actually altogether familar with the Vanquish specs w/o looking them up, but I doubt they're in the F12's range.

To me, Ferrari was at their peak, style-wise, in the 90s. They said 'look at me' while not being over the top, butt-ass ugly like Lambos. This may sound odd, but I think Ferrari is trying too hard to be classy now. They're trying to be Aston Martin or Maserati instead of Ferrari.

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sometimes I feel like the only person in the world that likes going 1 mph over big ass rocks and boulders more than going 200 mph down a smooth road.

oh well, different strokes...

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#20 jesuschristmonk
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The Vanquish is a much sexier car for less money. IMO, Ferrari is getting way too "safe" with their designs lately. They don't need to look like a fighter jet like a Lambo but they don't have enough in your face styling anymore.

Pirate700
Damn straight. If I was rich, I'd probably go the Aston route, but I'd probably still be more keen at getting more practical cars at much less prices. This Ferrari is pretty nice looking. Freaking back end looks intimidating lol. Pretty much just looks like an updated version of the 599 gto.
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#21 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

The Vanquish is a much sexier car for less money.

Pirate700

Yeah it does look great, and it is alot less, albeit still out of my price range, but the performance is of course the big difference. I'm not actually altogether familar with the Vanquish specs w/o looking them up, but I doubt they're in the F12's range.

To me, Ferrari was at their peak, style-wise, in the 90s. They said 'look at me' while not being over the top, butt-ass ugly like Lambos. This may sound odd, but I think Ferrari is trying too hard to be classy now. They're trying to be Aston Martin or Maserati instead of Ferrari.

I can see where you're coming from, although I like Lambos, but that's a whole nother story:P. Ferrari is probably the most iconic supercar brand so yeah others should be striving to be like them not the other way around.

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#22 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

The Vanquish is a much sexier car for less money. IMO, Ferrari is getting way too "safe" with their designs lately. They don't need to look like a fighter jet like a Lambo but they don't have enough in your face styling anymore.

jesuschristmonk

Damn straight. If I was rich, I'd probably go the Aston route, but I'd probably still be more keen at getting more practical cars at much less prices. This Ferrari is pretty nice looking. Freaking back end looks intimidating lol. Pretty much just looks like an updated version of the 599 gto.

Pssh practical cars :P.

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[...] the Combined fuel consumption is 18.8mpg [...]BranKetra
LOLWUT? A 730 bhp V12 Ferrari gets... over 10 mpg? Sh!t... go engineers.
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"] [...] the Combined fuel consumption is 18.8mpg [...]Zeviander
LOLWUT? A 730 bhp V12 Ferrari gets... over 10 mpg? Sh!t... go engineers.

That is pretty amazing mileage for the power.

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#25 Fightingfan
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Bad car. The output should be a lot higher given 12 cylinders, 6.2L, and it being Ferrari. My farm boys in Kentucky make 638hp with a V8 at 1/3 the price.

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*I do love the Italia458 though.

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I will start saving up some money for this beast :P
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#27 Zeviander
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That is pretty amazing mileage for the power.Pirate700
It's insane mileage. Then again, when a stock gasoline Mazda 3 is getting 60 mpg (Canadian, unsure what the American conversion is), then it surprises me less.
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#28 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]That is pretty amazing mileage for the power.Zeviander
It's insane mileage. Then again, when a stock gasoline Mazda 3 is getting 60 mpg (Canadian, unsure what the American conversion is), then it surprises me less.

That's like 30ish (40?) mph I think.

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#29 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

The Vanquish is a much sexier car for less money.

Pirate700

Yeah it does look great, and it is alot less, albeit still out of my price range, but the performance is of course the big difference. I'm not actually altogether familar with the Vanquish specs w/o looking them up, but I doubt they're in the F12's range.

To me, Ferrari was at their peak, style-wise, in the 90s. They said 'look at me' while not being over the top, butt-ass ugly like Lambos. This may sound odd, but I think Ferrari is trying too hard to be classy now. They're trying to be Aston Martin or Maserati instead of Ferrari.

looks are subjective i guess. i'd take the more classy look over the ridiculous "look at me, i got money and a tangellgo murcielago!" look anyday. ( assuming i ever actually had the choice..) anyways.. i guy a met a few times ( drove his 355 years ago when i was in school ) is getting a F12 this fall i think to replace his GTO.. hoping to see it sometime :)

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Yeah it does look great, and it is alot less, albeit still out of my price range, but the performance is of course the big difference. I'm not actually altogether familar with the Vanquish specs w/o looking them up, but I doubt they're in the F12's range.

comp_atkins

To me, Ferrari was at their peak, style-wise, in the 90s. They said 'look at me' while not being over the top, butt-ass ugly like Lambos. This may sound odd, but I think Ferrari is trying too hard to be classy now. They're trying to be Aston Martin or Maserati instead of Ferrari.

looks are subjective i guess. i'd take the more classy look over the ridiculous "look at me, i got money and a tangellgo murcielago!" look anyday. ( assuming i ever actually had the choice..) anyways.. i guy a met a few times ( drove his 355 years ago when i was in school ) is getting a F12 this fall i think to replace his GTO.. hoping to see it sometime :)

Looks are definitely subjective. If I'm paying $300k+ for a car, I want everyone to stop what they're doing and look at me when I drive by. :P

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#31 comp_atkins
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Bad car. The output should be a lot higher given 12 cylinders, 6.2L, and it being Ferrari. My farm boys in Kentucky make 638hp with a V8 at 1/3 the price.

05-10_zr1_conversion_coupe.jpg

*I do love the Italia458 though.

Fightingfan
but that's supercharged right?
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#32 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Bad car. The output should be a lot higher given 12 cylinders, 6.2L, and it being Ferrari. My farm boys in Kentucky make 638hp with a V8 at 1/3 the price.

*I do love the Italia458 though.

comp_atkins

but that's supercharged right?

Correct. But it also costs less than 1/3 of the price.

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#33 Fightingfan
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But it also costs less than 1/3 of the price.

Pirate700

And it's made by hicks in Kentucky.

*Come on.., I was trying to be nice :P

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#34 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] but that's supercharged right? Fightingfan

Correct. But it also costs less than 1/3 of the price.

And it's made by hicks in Kentucky.

And it looks better. >.>

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#35 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Bad car. The output should be a lot higher given 12 cylinders, 6.2L, and it being Ferrari. My farm boys in Kentucky make 638hp with a V8 at 1/3 the price.

*I do love the Italia458 though.

Pirate700

but that's supercharged right?

Correct. But it also costs less than 1/3 of the price.

well, yeah. i don't think price was the main objective when building a luxury item like that. otherwise who would buy a breitling when you can get a swatch for 1/1000th the price :P
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#36 CHOASXIII
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I find it to be quite the nice car but there are vehicles near the same price range that could be comparable or greater than this one. All in all though I will give this Ferrari a 10/10 would drive if I were to ever come across such an opportunity as to drive such an amazing piece of engineering.

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#37 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] but that's supercharged right? comp_atkins

Correct. But it also costs less than 1/3 of the price.

well, yeah. i don't think price was the main objective when building a luxury item like that. otherwise who would buy a breitling when you can get a swatch for 1/1000th the price :P

Well Breitlings are the best looking watches on the planet. :P

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#38 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] but that's supercharged right? comp_atkins

Correct. But it also costs less than 1/3 of the price.

well, yeah. i don't think price was the main objective when building a luxury item like that. otherwise who would buy a breitling when you can get a swatch for 1/1000th the price :P

Lets be honest. They threw 100k at it because it's ferrari, and they threw another 100k on it for using pointless carbon fiber.
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#39 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Correct. But it also costs less than 1/3 of the price.

Fightingfan

well, yeah. i don't think price was the main objective when building a luxury item like that. otherwise who would buy a breitling when you can get a swatch for 1/1000th the price :P

Lets be honest. They threw 100k at it because it's ferrari, and they threw another 100k on it for using pointless carbon fiber.

Exactly. There's no point to all that expensive carbon fiber. They could have used cheap plastic which would be just as light for pennies.

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#40 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] well, yeah. i don't think price was the main objective when building a luxury item like that. otherwise who would buy a breitling when you can get a swatch for 1/1000th the price :P Pirate700

Lets be honest. They threw 100k at it because it's ferrari, and they threw another 100k on it for using pointless carbon fiber.

Exactly. There's no point to all that expensive carbon fiber. They could have used cheap plastic which would be just as light for pennies.

And then wrap the plastic in leather if you wanna get 'fancy' like Bentley does.
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#41 punkpunker
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Correct. But it also costs less than 1/3 of the price.

Fightingfan

well, yeah. i don't think price was the main objective when building a luxury item like that. otherwise who would buy a breitling when you can get a swatch for 1/1000th the price :P

Lets be honest. They threw 100k at it because it's ferrari, and they threw another 100k on it for using pointless carbon fiber.

lol pointless carbon fiber, it is used to save weight! you think that a ferrari is a some ricer?

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#42 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] well, yeah. i don't think price was the main objective when building a luxury item like that. otherwise who would buy a breitling when you can get a swatch for 1/1000th the price :P Pirate700

Lets be honest. They threw 100k at it because it's ferrari, and they threw another 100k on it for using pointless carbon fiber.

Exactly. There's no point to all that expensive carbon fiber. They could have used cheap plastic which would be just as light for pennies.

they used cf because their customers don't want to be driving around in plastic...
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] well, yeah. i don't think price was the main objective when building a luxury item like that. otherwise who would buy a breitling when you can get a swatch for 1/1000th the price :P punkpunker

Lets be honest. They threw 100k at it because it's ferrari, and they threw another 100k on it for using pointless carbon fiber.

lol pointless carbon fiber, it is used to save weight! you think that a ferrari is a some ricer?

plastic saves weight. CF is only worth the money if you need added strength over plastic. And carbon fiber is about as rice as it gets.

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#44 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Lets be honest. They threw 100k at it because it's ferrari, and they threw another 100k on it for using pointless carbon fiber.comp_atkins

Exactly. There's no point to all that expensive carbon fiber. They could have used cheap plastic which would be just as light for pennies.

they used cf because their customers don't want to be driving around in plastic...

That's true. It's just adds so much unneeded cost though.

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#45 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] well, yeah. i don't think price was the main objective when building a luxury item like that. otherwise who would buy a breitling when you can get a swatch for 1/1000th the price :P punkpunker

Lets be honest. They threw 100k at it because it's ferrari, and they threw another 100k on it for using pointless carbon fiber.

lol pointless carbon fiber, it is used to save weight! you think that a ferrari is a some ricer?

Be realistic the majority of carbon fiber along with spoilers are pointless and have no real affect on the car's performance. Take the spoiler of a Bugatti, it's still the fastest production car; and if weight is such an influential factor don't even put carbon fiber, put nothing.
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#46 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Lets be honest. They threw 100k at it because it's ferrari, and they threw another 100k on it for using pointless carbon fiber.comp_atkins

Exactly. There's no point to all that expensive carbon fiber. They could have used cheap plastic which would be just as light for pennies.

they used cf because their customers don't want to be driving around in plastic...

Carbon fiber to the average rich folk is plastic >.> Cover it with leather like this.

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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Exactly. There's no point to all that expensive carbon fiber. They could have used cheap plastic which would be just as light for pennies.

Fightingfan

they used cf because their customers don't want to be driving around in plastic...

Carbon fiber to the average rich folk is plastic >.> Cover it with leather like this.

article-1374373-0B62FE1A00000578-703_468

i'm gonna wrap body panels in leather? also. a customer buying a ferrari could be looking for the "race car for the streets" feel.. being that their racing cars make extensive use of cf, that's what a customer would want in their road car from them.
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I would rather drive a Prius
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] they used cf because their customers don't want to be driving around in plastic...comp_atkins

Carbon fiber to the average rich folk is plastic >.> Cover it with leather like this.

i'm gonna wrap body panels in leather? also. a customer buying a ferrari could be looking for the "race car for the streets" feel.. being that their racing cars make extensive use of cf, that's what a customer would want in their road car from them.

How does a covered engine bay need the look of carbon fiber though? This isn't the old ferrari look with the exposed/glass cover. Nobody will ever see it. And the kind of person that owns these cars typically don't ever go under the hood.

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#50 Fightingfan
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i'm gonna wrap body panels in leather? also. a customer buying a ferrari could be looking for the "race car for the streets" feel.. being that their racing cars make extensive use of cf, that's what a customer would want in their road car from them. comp_atkins
Ferrari, not you(the buyer) personally.... You do have a point, but if you want a 'race car' the smart thing to do would be to just buy a GTR, or Hennessy Venom GT. GTR being the better of the two since realistically in America you'll never use any of the power outside of a quick launch which a GTR beats this car at.