Does your school/workplace have a safe-space?

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Poll Does your school/workplace have a safe-space? (44 votes)

yes 11%
no 84%

People in school were to busy beating the snot out each other to be worried about things like safe spaces, trigger warnings, speech codes, microagressions, etc.

That's how I remember school growing up anyways. It's still like that now from what I have seen.

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#1 byof_america
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It's called HR in the grown-up world. You'll find out about when you get a job some day.

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When I was taking classes at the University of Washington, at the end of 2013, beginning of 2014 they started instituting safe spaces, and I was told a common area was essentially for minorities and gays. I stopped taking classes from that school.

The existence of safe spaces is an affront to free expression, and has no place within a civil society.

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#3 foxhound_fox
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I drive truck. The industry is rife with racism, bigotry, sexism and discrimination of pretty much all forms.

It's largely a meritocracy too. No "you get rewarded for showing up to work".

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#4  Edited By mark1974
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They take safety very serious at my place of work. Our whole plant is to be concidered a safe space. Work place accidents will not be tolerated.

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#5 Serraph105
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That would be ridiculous.

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#6 samanthademeste
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@hillelslovak said:

When I was taking classes at the University of Washington, at the end of 2013, beginning of 2014 they started instituting safe spaces, and I was told a common area was essentially for minorities and gays. I stopped taking classes from that school.

The existence of safe spaces is an affront to free expression, and has no place within a civil society.

As someone who has been both physically and sexually abused in both school and the workplace, I would never advocate for safe spaces.

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#7 TotalRobot
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People complain about being treated like infants, then demand safe spaces like you would give infants.

And then wonder why I have so little respect for my own species. Most humans don't deserve respect.

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#8 foxhound_fox
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@mark1974 said:

They take safety very serious at my place of work. Our whole plant is to be concidered a safe space. Work place accidents will not be tolerated.

That's not the kind of safety the TC is talking about. More like "free from offense".

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#9 mark1974
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@foxhound_fox: I know, I'm just being stupid on purpose. I have never seen one of these safe spaces people talk about in real life ever. I thought they were mostly something that existed only in the minds of reactionary Trump supporters.

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Yes we do. Not allowed to have any news station on any channel. Personally, I think it's a little ridiculous, but some people get offended no matter what news channel you have on.

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#11 TotalRobot
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@mark1974 said:

@foxhound_fox: I know, I'm just being stupid on purpose. I have never seen one of these safe spaces people talk about in real life ever. I thought they were mostly something that existed only in the minds of reactionary Trump supporters.

They're primarily limited to college campuses, but are beginning to spread.

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#12  Edited By Jak42
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Every year my reserve police unit gets re-trained on OEEO (Office of Equal Employment Opportunity), about what kind of workplace discrimination and such is not allowed. Its largely general stuff. And we haven't had an issue where the OEEO had to get involved with. But there's no specific "safe space" zone within our workplace.

Our work environment though, is not really the place for anyone with sensitive feelings and easy triggers. The public isn't always going to be pleasant to you, your partners, or to others. And will at times, try to push your buttons intentionally. So we are encouraged to be neutral on controversial topics (particularity political related) that we may be asked from the public. By making a response like "I don't have an opinion"; or not saying anything. But we do discuss politics and touchy topics amongst ourselves.

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#13  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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The principal's office while school officials call your folks.

My workplace is zero tolerance/equal opportunity employer for just about anything. No politics, no loud jokes of any sort. As if we had time for them, anyway. We're all a bunch of weather geeks.

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#14 JustPlainLucas
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I work at a library. By definition, it's a safe space.

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#15 comp_atkins
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no

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@samanthademeste said:
@hillelslovak said:

When I was taking classes at the University of Washington, at the end of 2013, beginning of 2014 they started instituting safe spaces, and I was told a common area was essentially for minorities and gays. I stopped taking classes from that school.

The existence of safe spaces is an affront to free expression, and has no place within a civil society.

As someone who has been both physically and sexually abused in both school and the workplace, I would never advocate for safe spaces.

My view. I've been mugged twice on University campuses, and the idea of a safe space is absurd. We take certain risks everytime we go outside, some even when we dont. If I ever sunk to a level in which I had something happen to me, and demanded the places I go completely accomodate my every whim and feeling, I would probably Kurt Cobain myself.

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#17  Edited By intotheminx
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No. A "safe space" is essentially a place to run to when you do not want to hear opinions that differ from your own. Colleges implementing "safe spaces" hinders growth and real world diversity/experience in my opinion.

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#18 deactivated-5acfa3a8bc51d
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The toilet at 9AM.

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Well, not that I can recall. But, like, I work at a restaurant. And this restaurant actually allows workers to drink there after their shifts and on their days off. So, I recall this one incident where one of the employees showed up on his day off and started drinking and got like stupid drunk. So, one of the managers walked by while discussing work related stuff with another employee and the drunk off duty employee said in an "allegedly" joking manner, "hey, what's up you f**s?"

Side note, the manager was actually gay. Furthermore, the other employee was also gay and was dating the manager (though at the time they were interacting in the role of employees).

So, a different employee who was on duty at the time and heard the remarks quietly said something like, "DUDE, you can't say that shit. I know that we're restaurant workers and we tend to joke around, but you can't go up to a gay manager/coworker and call him a f**."

Then the dude loudly and drunkenly said, "well why the hell not? If he's actually gay then that means it's true."

Anyway, the dude got fired for that. Big surprise.

Also, people who act like that piss me off. Never mind the whole "acting like a moron and trying to blame the alcohol" aspect, this pisses me off because I actually like to have a drink at work after work. And I wouldn't be averse to dating an employee. Yet this is the EXACT same kind of shit that leads a lot of companies to institute policies such as "no dating coworkers and no drinking here even when you're off-duty." So then you happen to work for a company that lets employees do that stuff, then some f***ing asshole abuses the privilege and gets fired on his goddamn day off, thereby validating why so many companies DON'T allow such privileges and threatening to remove such privileges from the 99% of employees who AREN'T f***ing assholes.

Anyway, no "safe spaces" but the place that I work is REALLY serious when it comes to bigotry in the workplace. That's not to say that two cooks can't jokingly say that the other guy is gay, but instances of bullying and harassment are taken VERY seriously.

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#20  Edited By Maroxad
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Thankfully, no.

Edit: Something about the poll does not add up.

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#21  Edited By KHAndAnime
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Well, as "safe" as a professional setting needs to be. Listening to Gavin McInnes or Anthony Cumia certainly wouldn't fly there.

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@MrGeezer said:

Well, not that I can recall. But, like, I work at a restaurant. And this restaurant actually allows workers to drink there after their shifts and on their days off. So, I recall this one incident where one of the employees showed up on his day off and started drinking and got like stupid drunk. So, one of the managers walked by while discussing work related stuff with another employee and the drunk off duty employee said in an "allegedly" joking manner, "hey, what's up you f**s?"

Side note, the manager was actually gay. Furthermore, the other employee was also gay and was dating the manager (though at the time they were interacting in the role of employees).

So, a different employee who was on duty at the time and heard the remarks quietly said something like, "DUDE, you can't say that shit. I know that we're restaurant workers and we tend to joke around, but you can't go up to a gay manager/coworker and call him a f**."

Then the dude loudly and drunkenly said, "well why the hell not? If he's actually gay then that means it's true."

Anyway, the dude got fired for that. Big surprise.

Also, people who act like that piss me off. Never mind the whole "acting like a moron and trying to blame the alcohol" aspect, this pisses me off because I actually like to have a drink at work after work. And I wouldn't be averse to dating an employee. Yet this is the EXACT same kind of shit that leads a lot of companies to institute policies such as "no dating coworkers and no drinking here even when you're off-duty." So then you happen to work for a company that lets employees do that stuff, then some f***ing asshole abuses the privilege and gets fired on his goddamn day off, thereby validating why so many companies DON'T allow such privileges and threatening to remove such privileges from the 99% of employees who AREN'T f***ing assholes.

Anyway, no "safe spaces" but the place that I work is REALLY serious when it comes to bigotry in the workplace. That's not to say that two cooks can't jokingly say that the other guy is gay, but instances of bullying and harassment are taken VERY seriously.

That guy deserved it. And, I like how your job handles things.

I do agree that people shouldn't discriminate. And should reap the consequences if they do. Because that will do far more for the world than the safe spaces will.

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#23 Articuno76
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I thought safespaces were metaphorical, not actual santioned zones...

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#24 Metallic_Blade
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What is this 'Safe Space' of which you speak of? It sounds like something that you'd read off of George Orwells' 1984.

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#25 bforrester420
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I work in a professional atmosphere where we have little time or inclination to discuss religion, politics, or social topics.

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Probably in one's car out on the parking lot.

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#27 redrichard
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Schools and workplaces are free to do what they want on their own property so I could care less if they have such a policy or not.

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#28  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@MrGeezer: that was a just firing if you ask me.

I work at a brewery, we are legally allowed two "shift beers" (it's some weird US law that goes back like 100 years) but the company can determine if you are drunk, so it's a fine line. Likewise, the servers (if you are cool with them) will just keep pouring you beers so it's really easy for things to get out of control.

We try to be understanding at my job, but sometimes some asshole just is not a good drunk or can't handle his booze and does something that can't be forgiven and we have to let him or her go. You'd be really surprised how often we've had to fire women for groping or pissing in public or for rude comments. I love women that love beer! Anyway, it kind of ruins it for everybody so...yeah, don't be a shitty drunk, people, and don't shit where you eat (don't get drunk at work, don't screw at work, don't talk excessive shit at work, etc).

As for safe spaces, never seen one, never experienced one. I've never actually heard someone ask for them. I think it is, yet again, another concept blown out of proportion by the sensitive right so they feel they have something to complain about while hypocritically accusing others of complaining (in this case, about safe spaces that don't exist and are not asked for).

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#29  Edited By SummerHaze
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my safe place is at home

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#30 WhiteKnight77
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No, we had never heard of the term safe spaces when I went to school, high school, trade school as well as college.

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#31 N30F3N1X
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Yes it does, it's called Rechtsstaat.

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#32  Edited By blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Safe spaces only exist in weird millennial companies. Younger generations are losing the ability to have proper serious conflict resolution or to have their ideas and notions challenged. There is no place in any environment for people to be offensive or aggressive, they should be terminated from a job or punished at school, but people have to learn that they can't go through life in a protective bubble. I mean in this in an apolitical way as all sides seem unable anymore to find a middle ground in the US and use wide sweeping and generalized terms to demonize the other side. We have to be able to hear and understand differing views from our own without acting like they are the enemy.

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#33 Jacanuk
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LOL Safe spaces.

No we don't and we don't need it because i work with adults and not young snowflakes.

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#34 pyro1245
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My work is safe, but we don't hire sensitive people that complain about bullshit. There is a proper amount of shit-talking, but at the end of the day it's a small company and we're all friends.

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#35  Edited By iandizion713
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I work for a fortune 100 company, they actually rank in top 50, and our whole company is a safe space. Discrimination, criticism, harassment, or any other emotional or physical harm is not tolerated. You will be heavily punished for violating someones safe space. Your not even allowed to smoke on the property.

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#36 SOedipus
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@iandizion713: that makes a lot of sense.

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#37 iandizion713
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@SOedipus: Yeah, i feel bad for others, id never work for a company that doesnt respect ones safe space.

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#38 Jacanuk
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@iandizion713 said:

@SOedipus: Yeah, i feel bad for others, id never work for a company that doesnt respect ones safe space.

Eh? i would go insane if i had to work in a oversensitive workenvoriment where everyone had to abide by insane rules. Especially when all you need is common sense and respect for your colleagues.

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#39  Edited By iandizion713
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@Jacanuk: Welcome to being a grown up who has to respect others in the workplace. What insane rules? These are common in bout all work places I know of. You think you have the right to harass and insult others, etc while working? Thats childish.

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@iandizion713 said:

I work for a fortune 100 company, they actually rank in top 50, and our whole company is a safe space. Discrimination, criticism, harassment, or any other emotional or physical harm is not tolerated. You will be heavily punished for violating someones safe space. Your not even allowed to smoke on the property.

So, you work for Kmart?

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#41 iandizion713
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@plageus900: We don't have Kmart.

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#42 Jacanuk
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@iandizion713 said:

@Jacanuk: Welcome to being a grown up who has to respect other in the workplace. What insane rules? These are common in bout all work places I know. You think you have the right to harass and insult others, etc while working? Thhats childish.

Did i say harass or insult ?

Common sense and respect for your colleagues is all you need, and if you ever worked in a adult environment you would know this.

So unless you were raised in a barn with snowflake curling parents who forgot to teach you that you are no more important than anyone else, you do not need rules to behave like a decent human being.

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#43 plageus900
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@iandizion713 said:

@plageus900: We don't have Kmart.

Wal Mart?

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#44  Edited By iandizion713
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@Jacanuk: Discrimination, harassment, criticism, or any other emotion or physical harm are the definition of a safe space environment and practiced by bout every company I've ever known in the United States. Have no clue what ruleless shithole you might work in mate.

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#45 darklight4
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I would turn down a lucrative job if I knew they had safe spaces. Even if some people have hateful views it's pointless trying to censor them let the reasonable minded people destroy them.

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#46  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Yeah. There's a sick room where you can go to lay down if you're sick or whatever and there are counselors around if you've had a traumatic event happen recently and would like someone to discuss it with in private.

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#47 N64DD
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Nice thread Necro.

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@byof_america said:

It's called HR in the grown-up world. You'll find out about when you get a job some day.

That is a really good point.

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#49 Balrogbane
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No. We do a thing called 'work' in my place of employment.

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#50 Gaming-Planet
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At my school we sort of have lite safe spaces and trigger warnings.

If it gets any worse, I'm going to stand up against it and tell them that all it does is create intellectual dishonesty.