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[QUOTE="cd_rom"] Macs don't turn off. They go into a low-power state, and they save the image of the memory so everything can be put brought back faster. Again, we're back at the "hiding" part. None of that has anything to do with how well each OS handles multitasking. Admittedly, Windows could use this feature. The closest thing it has it "lock" and "hibernate". "Lock" doesn't really put the computer into a low power mode. "Hibernate" never works for me, and it's also a complete shutdown rather than low-power so I still have to go through the BIOS. Also I'm willing to be you have a few dozen applications starting up in Windows while your Mac is pretty clean.jun_aka_pekto
The Sleep Mode in Vista (my laptop) and Win 7 (my gaming PC) works perfectly fine here. When in hibernate mode, everything looks powered off: lights, fans, drives, all the LED lights. The PC looks like it's turned off. Yet if I move the mouse, the PC resumes right where it was within a couple of seconds.
I rarely turn off my computers nowadays, preferring to keep them in Sleep Mode.
Neither of those ever work well on my desktop for some reason. Whenever I hibernate, it claims to save the image, but whenever I turn it back on it has to rescan my HD for defects and ends up restarting Windows anyway. It's been that case for every desktop I've owned. It's my only major complaint with Windows.[QUOTE="cd_rom"] Macs don't turn off. They go into a low-power state, and they save the image of the memory so everything can be put brought back faster. Again, we're back at the "hiding" part. None of that has anything to do with how well each OS handles multitasking. Admittedly, Windows could use this feature. The closest thing it has it "lock" and "hibernate". "Lock" doesn't really put the computer into a low power mode. "Hibernate" never works for me, and it's also a complete shutdown rather than low-power so I still have to go through the BIOS. Also I'm willing to be you have a few dozen applications starting up in Windows while your Mac is pretty clean.jun_aka_pekto
The Sleep Mode in Vista (my laptop) and Win 7 (my gaming PC) works perfectly fine here. When in hibernate mode, everything looks powered off: lights, fans, drives, all the LED lights. The PC looks like it's turned off. Yet if I move the mouse, the PC resumes right where it was within a couple of seconds.
I rarely turn off my computers nowadays, preferring to keep them in Sleep Mode.
Really? I always like to shut it down completely unless I have windows up that I'm working on. Not like it matters much, Windows 7 boots up so quickly that I barely even notice the difference.
I still think you get what you pay for when you buy a macbook pro laptop. The construction of them are amazing, and the contrast ratio of the monitors are unrivaled. Also the keyboard is very nice .You are not paying for performance, you are paying for everything but performance, even though you still get good performance... obviously not for games.
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[QUOTE="cd_rom"] Macs don't turn off. They go into a low-power state, and they save the image of the memory so everything can be put brought back faster. Again, we're back at the "hiding" part. None of that has anything to do with how well each OS handles multitasking. Admittedly, Windows could use this feature. The closest thing it has it "lock" and "hibernate". "Lock" doesn't really put the computer into a low power mode. "Hibernate" never works for me, and it's also a complete shutdown rather than low-power so I still have to go through the BIOS. Also I'm willing to be you have a few dozen applications starting up in Windows while your Mac is pretty clean.metroidfood
The Sleep Mode in Vista (my laptop) and Win 7 (my gaming PC) works perfectly fine here. When in hibernate mode, everything looks powered off: lights, fans, drives, all the LED lights. The PC looks like it's turned off. Yet if I move the mouse, the PC resumes right where it was within a couple of seconds.
I rarely turn off my computers nowadays, preferring to keep them in Sleep Mode.
Really? I always like to shut it down completely unless I have windows up that I'm working on. Not like it matters much, Windows 7 boots up so quickly that I barely even notice the difference.
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[QUOTE="cd_rom"] Macs don't turn off. They go into a low-power state, and they save the image of the memory so everything can be put brought back faster. Again, we're back at the "hiding" part. None of that has anything to do with how well each OS handles multitasking. Admittedly, Windows could use this feature. The closest thing it has it "lock" and "hibernate". "Lock" doesn't really put the computer into a low power mode. "Hibernate" never works for me, and it's also a complete shutdown rather than low-power so I still have to go through the BIOS. Also I'm willing to be you have a few dozen applications starting up in Windows while your Mac is pretty clean.metroidfood
The Sleep Mode in Vista (my laptop) and Win 7 (my gaming PC) works perfectly fine here. When in hibernate mode, everything looks powered off: lights, fans, drives, all the LED lights. The PC looks like it's turned off. Yet if I move the mouse, the PC resumes right where it was within a couple of seconds.
I rarely turn off my computers nowadays, preferring to keep them in Sleep Mode.
Really? I always like to shut it down completely unless I have windows up that I'm working on. Not like it matters much, Windows 7 boots up so quickly that I barely even notice the difference.
Mine don't take long to get to the log-in screen (from a warm/cold boot). But, a number of services applets still need to load up before the computer is fully usable. Even the fastest warm or cold-boot still takes forever compared to the 1-2 seconds waking up from Sleep Mode takes and is fully usable right from the get-go.
The problem with Sleep Mode is many PCs made before Vista probably can't handle it. My old 2001 PC BSOD's every time I try it. But, my Toshiba laptop (2007) and gaming Pc (2009) handle Sleep Mode well.
The Mac Mini I just turn off when not being used. It really is quick in booting up, much quicker than any of my PCs. It's the BIOS that slows down the boot process and the Mac doesn't have a BIOS in the traditional sense.
I've used both of them, and overall i prefer the Mac. I just like OS X overall, its look, feel. Also the Mac Hardware. Yes you can build a PC of equal specs for less, but you get good Apple design (...Most of the time* :P) and the software can take advantage of the hardware and vice versa.
PC 110%
1. Its what I grew up on
2. I dont like the control Apple products try to have over their consumer
3. I dont like how Apple products deny the customer control
4. PCs perform three times as good at half the cost
5. Games
6. Games
7. Games
8. Mac "culture" annoys me; if you own a Mac and like it, great, I am happy for you. Just dont treat it like a fashion statement or think Bill Gates is the antichrist and Mac is an army of angels sent to smite him.
Also, this picture sums it up pretty well
I like to build my own computers...I also build them for other people, so it's a no-brainer to choose Windows based systems for me. Macs are well made machines and I understand the appeal, but I hate the fact that they are extremely limited by propriety.
PC, Macs are overrated, expensive pieces of out of date hardware. I still feel bad for a friend of mine who paid $3000 for a Mac that was weaker than my PC which cost half as much. IantheoneI also feel bad for him, my mac was half that price.. what a ripoff But yeah, i like both.. windows for gaming, mac for everything else
I use my macbook almost exclusively since I got it. Mostly since I'm not a PC builder/enthusiast and there are never any games coming out that I can't get on a console. The only PC game on my radar right now is Shogun 2 Total War, and that's been the first on it since Empire, almost 2 years ago. I do want to get Civ 5, but it's coming to the mac soon and that's one I'd like on a laptop.
Yeah games is a problem, and i'm also a Civ fan.. But the mac has the right tools to run windows on it, so you could try bootcamp.. another thing i love :PI use my macbook almost exclusively since I got it. Mostly since I'm not a PC builder/enthusiast and there are never any games coming out that I can't get on a console. The only PC game on my radar right now is Shogun 2 Total War, and that's been the first on it since Empire, almost 2 years ago. I do want to get Civ 5, but it's coming to the mac soon and that's one I'd like on a laptop.
supercubedude64
You can spec the exact same spec PCs. The laptops are all constructed by Asus and the monitors are all LG S-IPS panels.I still think you get what you pay for when you buy a macbook pro laptop. The construction of them are amazing, and the contrast ratio of the monitors are unrivaled. Also the keyboard is very nice .You are not paying for performance, you are paying for everything but performance, even though you still get good performance... obviously not for games.
JigglyWiggly_
If somebody donated a Mac to me, but i try them at Fry's and don't see what the big deal is........maybe if i were an Art student.but my cousin is and so far hasn't bought a MAC either.........X360PS3AMD05I graduated from an arts program. Honestly, the profs gushed over them, gave us portable HDs so we could carry over projects to the Macs and work on them on PCs and Macs. Worked for a while until the Macs bricked my hard drives. *shrug* I didn't find them any quicker or more efficient, and while the monitors were nice, the keyboards were the least ergonomic ones I've experienced. I worked on Macs steadily for 3 years in that course, pretty much half the hours I was in school, and I can say the old "art student" bit is just a myth. Quark is on Macs, but InDesign is right there with it. Macs use intel components so they're no more special than every other PC in existence and that hardware efficiency argument is shot. The OS is useful, clean and simple, but there are some annoyances(at least, personal ones) that I found troubling to my efficiency(such as the ever present single bar at the top, and the active transparency within program frames). Really, when you buy a MAC, you buy it for the exclusive software(usually audio or video post-processing), or you buy it for the looks and simple OS. There's no other reason to buy a Mac.
While I dislike the use of "PC" to mean anything but a Mac (since a Mac is still a personal computer, but...
PC for sure.
I don't like Apple products and I don't like Apple, and I ESPECIALLY don't like their computers. The iPods, eh, fine, I can live with those, but I can't stand their computers. I don't like the operating systems, I hate how overpriced the computers themselves are, I hate how you cannot customize the hardware, and so on. I also hate the pretension that more often than not goes along with owning a Mac.
A lot of Mac users pride themselves in being elite computer-users because they went out and bought a Mac, but that's not true. It takes a lot more skill to customize a PC, build your own PC, or even select a PC from a large pool of brands. I also get so sick of hearing about how Macs are "virus-free" which also is a misconception. Automatically owning a Mac does not make you exempt from viruses, and automatically owning a PC does not make you virus-ridden. Using a little common sense will go a long way with avoiding viruses. Macs are still susceptible to viruses - they just often aren't a target since PCs are more popular and more businesses and important companies use PCs.
All in all, I just have never had a positive experience with a Mac computer, and I've used many different kinds of them dating back to the late '90s, so I'm not just talking out of my ass.
ive used both quite a bit, for some reason i hate macs.
because of my opinion being the only one that matters....
PC WINS!!
that is all.
I got a Mac about five months ago and I swear you couldn't pay me to switch back to PC! What's everybody else's opinion?jam19911000Agreed. Gonna get a MacBook pro as soon as i get my salary.
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