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The flag waved without air because that is what the astronaut did for get a better picture. If you put the flag up it will stay up because there is very little gravity. There were no stars in the picture because it is very bright on the moon. In order to allow us to view everything they needed to turn the aperture, or something, down to allow us to view the landscape.
There are actually reflectors left on the moon by the astronauts. Astronemers on earth can actually shine a laser at this reflector and count how long it takes for the beam to bounce back. Proof was LEFT on the moon, and this proof is visible from Earth.beleive what you will. Nobody knows untill we get some pictures of the landing sites and photomap the moon. You can't miss the crap that was left up there.
I'm not to sure why this has not been done....
Chogyam
The flag waved without air because that is what the astronaut did for get a better picture. If you put the flag up it will stay up because there is very little gravity.
BumFluff122
Actually, this is incorrect. Sure, there is less gravity on the moon than on Earth. But everything with mass exerts a gravitastional attraction. And the moon (as small as it is) is still pretty darn massive. In fact, you can see the astronauts jumping all around. And yet, they didn't fly off into space. They fell right back down to the moon's surface.
The REAL reason why the flag was "waving" is because NASA knew that the flag wouldn't stay aloft in the absence of wind. So they built a retractable metal pole into the flag post. This pole extended out horizontally. But it got stuck, and the astronauts weren't able to extend it all the way. This caused the flag to be rippled. Then, the astronauts twisted the post back and forth in order to place it in the ground. this back-and-forth motion, along with the rippled appearance of the flag, led to the illusion that the flag was waving as one does on Earth.
That was basically what I meant. The actions of the stronauts caused the flag to have a rippled look. They mean tto do that. And as the gravitational effects on the moon aren't anywhere near that on Earth the flag stayed in the position long enough to take a picture of it. I wasn't aware of the retractable metal pole though.Actually, this is incorrect. Sure, there is less gravity on the moon than on Earth. But everything with mass exerts a gravitastional attraction. And the moon (as small as it is) is still pretty darn massive. In fact, you can see the astronauts jumping all around. And yet, they didn't fly off into space. They fell right back down to the moon's surface.
The REAL reason why the flag was "waving" is because NASA knew that the flag wouldn't stay aloft in the absence of wind. So they built a retractable metal pole into the flag post. This pole extended out horizontally. But it got stuck, and the astronauts weren't able to extend it all the way. This caused the flag to be rippled. Then, the astronauts twisted the post back and forth in order to place it in the ground. this back-and-forth motion, along with the rippled appearance of the flag, led to the illusion that the flag was waving as one does on Earth.
MrGeezer
I've always believed that man went to the moon, but after watching a documentary on it's conspiracy, I'm 50/50.1. I mean, how did the flag wave without air?
2. And how come there are no stars visible in the film footage?
3. And this was back in 1969...so how come 40 years later, noone else has gone to the moon?
These are just questions, and if you can answer them, then that would be helpfulkingunderground
1. THe flag moved because of inertia (? some physical force...inertia? Centrifugal force? you know what I mean). Imagine youre in a pool, and you have a sheet of something with neutral boyancy. If you move it, and then stop, its going to continue moving until eventually it stops. Same deal with the flag. When you plant it, there are relatively zero forces acting on it so whatever motions you put it through our going to continue for a while. I am sure someone who was a recent or current student could explain it better.
2. Dunno, but I am sure there is a reasonable explanation. Again, I am sure someone versed in film and photography could explain it better, but I imagine in a place exposed to so much light, the cameras would have some sort of filter put on to A.) only pick up things in a short distance, or B.) only be tolerant of high-light objects (like the moons surface, space suits...distant stars would be faint-light).
3. My guess is that it costs too much. Not to mention the entire thing was a Cold War publciity stunt; I am not trying to belittle the achievements of the Apollo missions, they were very great, but ultimately they proved pointless except for some moon rocks (which you can buy on ebay).
These are just my thoughts on the subject. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable in the matter can correct or reinforce what I said.
We haven't gone back because the space race was huge back then. Everyone cared about it. NASA was huge. Now it has significantly reduced budgeting and can't really do much. Plus, once you've been up there, what's the point of going back? The only reason we did it was to flex our technological might to the USSR and the rest of the world. We are going back though. Look up the Constellation program.Dark__LinkPlus, technology has advanced enough to send UNMANNED ROBOTS out to do a lot of the exploring for us. People can say that we haven't "been to the moon" since the Apollo program was scrapped. But that's a biased way of looking at things. Hell, just this year, didn't we send a robot out to freaking BOMB THE MOON? And never mind all those live video feeds from the surface of MARS, which some of the moon landing conspiracy theorists surely must remember. Were the Mars rovers a hoax too? Were the Voyagers a hoax? Were Cassini and Huygens hoaxes? Was the NEAR project a hoax? These days, we have the luxury of sending robots out to do a lot of our exploring, so that we don't have to put people in harm's way. Robots also don't get tired, don't get stressed out or crazy, don't lose their concentration, and don't get hungry or thirsty. And that can be a big advantage.
idunno, the pics taken with any ol' disposable look better than any I've seen with your average digital camera. Thats all I gotta say about that
*note: this is in printed form, mind you
Yes man did go to the moon. I too went through a sceptical phase when I was younger, but when studying at University I realised that it is one of, if not *the* most contemporary-sourced event in history. Theres bits of paper for every single thing they did, explaining exactly how they did it.
people are stupid , the flag was affected by wind , what wind is there on moon ??gubrushadowThen please enlighten us, as to why the already given reasons as to why one would get the impression that the flag is waving due to force of wind, would be fallacious then.
I dont know.
I mean i read the whole flag thing, the no stars theory and other things.
But to me people are just grasping at straws. But what really gets to me, is why Neil armstrong hasnt really said anything about the whole thing. He doesnt do any public speaking, concerning the matter.
I mean wouldnt any of you? He was the first man on the moon and you would think he would atleast say something.
Here's a video of him actually talking about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUx1SURbb3g
Very weird i must say.
Here's the way I look at it:
If we went to the moon: big whoop. What did it achieve? Nothing.
If we didn't go to the moon then what do we have? Nothing.
Same big whoop, same out come. Get over it.
Very weird i must say.deathtarget04Very weird would be NASA being able to fabricate such an overwhelming amount of evidence to suggest that they went to the moon, with each segment of evidence supported by literally thousands of pages of solid, observed and validated science, but with this knowledge of how to feasibly get there; not doing so -- and instead, despite having at the time endless funding from the government, opt for sharing fairy tales with the known world, and this fairy tale not being proven to be false to this day by the international scientific community.
Yes, multiple times. The flag didn't wave; the motion of the flag while he was holding it made it look like it was waving. Stars weren't visible from the moon because it was daytime on the Moon; go outside and tell me how many stars you can see during the daytime.
We didn't go to the moon just once, we went a few times. Whenever you have some event that is hard to believe, there will always be conspiracy theorists denying that it took place - 9/11, the Holocaust , the moonl landing, etc. Some of these events are just so amazing and some are so terrifying that people just dont want to believe them. So they ignore all evidence and create their own realities to explain them away.
I think Depp owns a piece of land on the moon.I could be wrong though.Lto_thaG
Are you serious :o?
Well,I'm not sure. No he doesn't. There is an internatioanlly accepted law stating that one, including countries, cannot claim territory on the moon as their own. You cannot own land on the moon no matter what.No he doesn't. There is an internatioanlly accepted law stating that one, including countries, cannot claim territory on the moon as their own. You cannot own land on the moon no matter what.cpo335It's a common misconception. Now, let me think about this... It's not actually the land itself they own--yes, people do have ownership of some aspect of the moon--but rather... the uh... space, or something, above a certain area? I'm not sure that's it and typing it now seems so wrong. All I know is that you're both right and wrong.
People do own peices of the moon, just not the "land".
It's a common misconception. Now, let me think about this... It's not actually the land itself they own--yes, people do have ownership of some aspect of the moon--but rather... the uh... space, or something, above a certain area? I'm not sure that's it and typing it now seems so wrong. All I know is that you're both right and wrong.[QUOTE="cpo335"]No he doesn't. There is an internatioanlly accepted law stating that one, including countries, cannot claim territory on the moon as their own. You cannot own land on the moon no matter what.DigitalExile
People do own peices of the moon, just not the "land".
No, you're wrong. See the 1967 United Nations Outer Space Treaty.See: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty_of_1967
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/090720-apollo-11-who-owns-moon.html(specifically "The moon is unclaimable under the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, which has so far been ratified by 100 UN member countries, including the United States.")
It's a common misconception. Now, let me think about this... It's not actually the land itself they own--yes, people do have ownership of some aspect of the moon--but rather... the uh... space, or something, above a certain area? I'm not sure that's it and typing it now seems so wrong. All I know is that you're both right and wrong.[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]
[QUOTE="cpo335"]No he doesn't. There is an internatioanlly accepted law stating that one, including countries, cannot claim territory on the moon as their own. You cannot own land on the moon no matter what.cpo335
People do own peices of the moon, just not the "land".
No, you're wrong. See the 1967 United Nations Outer Space Treaty.See: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty_of_1967
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/090720-apollo-11-who-owns-moon.html(specifically "The moon is unclaimable under the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, which has so far been ratified by 100 UN member countries, including the United States.")
Well, for all I know what I was talking about I heard in a dream so I was talking out of my ass anyway. :lol: I can't be bothered with the links so I'll take your word for it.DigitalExile
I saw a documentary themed around an american guy that made it his business selling small lunar territories of land to people, 5-10years ago
maybe that´s where you got it from
[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]Well, for all I know what I was talking about I heard in a dream so I was talking out of my ass anyway. :lol: I can't be bothered with the links so I'll take your word for it.BiancaDK
I saw a documentary themed around an american guy that made it his business selling small lunar territories of land to people, 5-10years ago
maybe that´s where you got it from
No. I remember it was about Michael Jackson owning land on the moon... Still, I think what it was was the "surface" (as in the imaginary surface area) and not the actual land. It's like saying you own the surface area of Lot 47 in your street, but you can't do anything with it because you don't own the dirt or the grass or the ground, just the imaginary air around (on) it.So in other words, you can claim an area and pay for it, but all you can do with it is say "Hey, look. I own part of the moon," so that even if you had a spaceship you couldn't legally put anything in that space. Which makes me wonder just who sells these plots...
Documentaries are a dime a dozen, especially for conspiracy theories:
Pearl Harbor
JFK
Moon Landing
WTC Bombing 1
Oklahoma City
9/11
Afghanistan (Oil / Natural Gas Pipeline)
Illumati / NWO
2012
That's just some of the more contemporary American ones. I bet there's thousands of them, in all different shapes and sizes, for thousands of years.
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