Death Penalty yes or no?

Whatever's cheaper really. I mean, if you just so happen to be a sociopath who gets stimulation from killing a bunch of people, there is no hope of rehabilitation and they should be put to death. If your wife cheated on you with your boss who just fired you and if a fit of rage you take him out... well maybe you could get a second chance after some time in jail.

They suffer more in jail.

I am against Capital Punishment, everyone has a right to live.

They suffer more in jail.

tjricardo089

They suffer more in jail.

They suffer more in jail.

They suffer more in jail.

tjricardo089

[QUOTE="playmynutz"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Jail is not really supposed to make the offender suffer. Its role should be primarily to help rehabilitate the offender and make him become a working, productive member of society. l4dak47

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]Yes... when you unlawfully take out a man's life... you are practically taking your own... solid logic.ghoklebutter

They suffer more in jail.

tjricardo089

Do they really?

Then why is it criminal's desperately do deals with the courts to escape the death penalty and get life imprisonment

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They suffer more in jail.

sexyweapons

Do they really?

Then why is it criminal's desperately do deals with the courts to escape the death penalty and get life imprisonment

Biology. We are biologically driven to survive even if it is a misserable existance.

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They suffer more in jail.

Guybrush_3

Do they really?

Then why is it criminal's desperately do deals with the courts to escape the death penalty and get life imprisonment

Biology. We are biologically driven to survive even if it is a misserable existance.

All the better reason to make crimminal scum suffer by giving them the death penalty.

yea but none of that wait 20 year line crap do immedently.we spend hundreds of thousands of dollars keeping people in there op them out(by them i mean life in prison without parol)

yes, but don't waste all this money waiting years for it to happen, as soon as the conviction is handed down, take them out the back and shoot them!19JasonSmith89

China style?

[QUOTE="19JasonSmith89"]yes, but don't waste all this money waiting years for it to happen, as soon as the conviction is handed down, take them out the back and shoot them!sexyweapons

China style?

Many criminals deserve the death penalty. However, it's such a long an arduous process, where they'll spend decades on death row, that it just turns into cruel and unusual punishment. Ghost_702

I agree,I believe in the death penalty,but I don't like the way it ends up being decades after the crime.

The death penality is not a way of the family or friends of the the murder victim getting revenge. That is a shallow way of looking at it. The death penality is used for the more severe extreme murder cases. And it is pretty much 100% official that the guy who is on death row is the killer. The killer has commited horrible crimes and has shown that he/she is not mentally sane and suitable and efficent to function peacefully within society.

While on a rational level I don't think the death penalty can be justified (either in principle or on more pragmatic grounds), the issue doesn't really inspire any kind of moral outrage in me as it used to.

The death penality is not a way of the family or friends of the the murder victim getting revenge. That is a shallow way of looking at it. The death penality is used for the more severe extreme murder cases. And it is pretty much 100% official that the guy who is on death row is the killer. The killer has commited horrible crimes and has shown that he/she is not mentally sane and suitable and efficent to function peacefully within society.

ToastRider11

Depends how brutal/severe it was, some people simply shoudn't be alive after the things they've done e.g Charles Manson, Ted Bundy

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[QUOTE="19JasonSmith89"]yes, but don't waste all this money waiting years for it to happen, as soon as the conviction is handed down, take them out the back and shoot them!19JasonSmith89

China style?

You do understand that many innocent people would be executed if you did that, don't you? 12% of all death row convictions are overturned.

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China style?

Guybrush_3

12% of all death row convictions are overturned.

and your point is?

Have to say no.

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[QUOTE="19JasonSmith89"] pretty much, it seems to be effective!sexyweapons

12% of all death row convictions are overturned.

and your point is?

If you immediately executed people after they were convicted then you would be murdering a lot of innocent people.

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12% of all death row convictions are overturned.

Guybrush_3

and your point is?

If you immediately executed people after they were convicted then you would be murdering a lot of innocent people.

Most of those were over turned due to the person winning an appeal and getting life imprisonment instead,its extremely uncommon for people to get prosecuted for a crime they didn't commit now days.

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and your point is?

sexyweapons

If you immediately executed people after they were convicted then you would be murdering a lot of innocent people.

Most of those were over turned due to the person winning an appeal and getting life imprisonment instead,its extremely uncommon for people to get prosecuted for a crime they didn't commit now days.

But it happens. look at all of these people that were on death row that were exonerated of their crimes.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-those-freed-death-row

but I guess you are ok with innocent people being murdered as a petty act of revenge. You know who else thinks like that? Islamic terrorists. Are you like islamic terrorists?

yes, we need to be much more liberal with the death penalty.

If the inmate is unable to do hard labor for whatever reason, then they should be put to death

No! The death penalty should not exist. Why someone would want and argue for the State to have the "legitimate authority" to kill its own subjects is beyond me.

Not for all degrees, no.

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If you immediately executed people after they were convicted then you would be murdering a lot of innocent people.

Guybrush_3

Most of those were over turned due to the person winning an appeal and getting life imprisonment instead,its extremely uncommon for people to get prosecuted for a crime they didn't commit now days.

But it happens. look at all of these people that were on death row that were exonerated of their crimes.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-those-freed-death-row

but I guess you are ok with innocent people being murdered as a petty act of revenge. You know who else thinks like that? Islamic terrorists. Are you like islamic terrorists?

Most of those cases are in the 70s and 80s back then investgators would have to rely on old techniques to discover the culprit,now days investigators have forensic science to back them up.

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and your point is?

sexyweapons

If you immediately executed people after they were convicted then you would be murdering a lot of innocent people.

Most of those were over turned due to the person winning an appeal and getting life imprisonment instead,its extremely uncommon for people to get prosecuted for a crime they didn't commit now days.

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Most of those were over turned due to the person winning an appeal and getting life imprisonment instead,its extremely uncommon for people to get prosecuted for a crime they didn't commit now days.

sexyweapons

But it happens. look at all of these people that were on death row that were exonerated of their crimes.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-those-freed-death-row

but I guess you are ok with innocent people being murdered as a petty act of revenge. You know who else thinks like that? Islamic terrorists. Are you like islamic terrorists?

Most of those cases are in the 70s and 80s back then investgators would have to rely on old techniques to discover the culprit,now days investigators have forensic science to back them up.

I think you've watched a little too much CSI and no, and the fact that any of them are recent means that an innocent person would have been murdered as a petty act of revenge even with modern forensics, and thats just for people on death row. There are many more that have been aquited from muder charges but not been on death row that would also have died if you had your way, so you are like an islamic terrorist.

I am pretty shocked about all the posts I read. You people seem to think it's okay to take a human life. Even the the people who are against the death penalty are only against it because of the risk of an innocent person being punished. No one on earth has the right to decide who lives and who dies. The death penalty is nothing more than murder.

Even the the people who are against the death penalty are only against it because of the risk of an innocent person being punishednbessiner

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If you immediately executed people after they were convicted then you would be murdering a lot of innocent people.

Franklinstein

Most of those were over turned due to the person winning an appeal and getting life imprisonment instead,its extremely uncommon for people to get prosecuted for a crime they didn't commit now days.

And your evidence is...

[QUOTE="nbessiner"] Even the the people who are against the death penalty are only against it because of the risk of an innocent person being punishedSteverXIII

That or it's too expensive. Of course there are a exceptions but most people here don't seem to value human life.

I am pretty shocked about all the posts I read. You people seem to think it's okay to take a human life. Even the the people who are against the death penalty are only against it because of the risk of an innocent person being punished. No one on earth has the right to decide who lives and who dies. The death penalty is nothing more than murder.

nbessiner

Why does every person look at the death penalty from the perspective of the killer?

Were talking about killers here!

Thats somebodies friend,brother,daughter!

It could be somone you love,I love.

If somone kills somone with no respect they have no right to live

That or it's too expensive. Of course there are a exceptions but most people here don't seem to value human life.

nbessiner

I value human life. Just not when they're criminals. :)

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I am pretty shocked about all the posts I read. You people seem to think it's okay to take a human life. Even the the people who are against the death penalty are only against it because of the risk of an innocent person being punished. No one on earth has the right to decide who lives and who dies. The death penalty is nothing more than murder.

sexyweapons

Why does every person look at the death penalty from the perspective of the killer?

Were talking about killers here!

Thats somebodies friend,brother,daughter!

It could be somone you love,I love.

If somone kills somone with no respect they have no right to live

That is not for you to decide. That person should be locked up for life and kept away from society. You have no right to say wether someone has the right to live or not.

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[QUOTE="nbessiner"]

I am pretty shocked about all the posts I read. You people seem to think it's okay to take a human life. Even the the people who are against the death penalty are only against it because of the risk of an innocent person being punished. No one on earth has the right to decide who lives and who dies. The death penalty is nothing more than murder.

nbessiner

Why does every person look at the death penalty from the perspective of the killer?

Were talking about killers here!

Thats somebodies friend,brother,daughter!

It could be somone you love,I love.

If somone kills somone with no respect they have no right to live

That is not for you to decide. That person should be locked up for life and kept away from society. You have no right to say wether someone has the right to live or not.

Why does every person look at the death penalty from the perspective of the killer?

Were talking about killers here!

Thats somebodies friend,brother,daughter!

It could be somone you love,I love.

If somone kills somone with no respect they have no right to live

sexyweapons

Then why on earth would you give the government the authority to kill someone in a premeditative fashion. It makes no sense. The US has more people caught in the correctional system than Stalin had in the Gulags and 4 million of the 6 are black. 4 million african americans, that is more than were in slavery. Yet people want to increase the ability of the State to imprison, punish and kill.