I don't believe in revenge killings, that is pretty much what I see the death penalty as. The goal should be to remove the danger from the population and leave it at that. If you are concerned with paying for this person for their life free the petty criminals from prison that should be on house arrest.
No, innocent people can and have been executed and it is (by nature) more expensive than locking someone up for life. Those reasons alone are enough to warrant its abolishment.
No, innocent people can and have been executed and it is (by nature) more expensive than locking someone up for life. Those reasons alone are enough to warrant its abolishment.
Guybrush_3
The odds of that happening are so slim, the point is moot.
Most death row inmates would rather be incarcerated for life than face the death penalty.
Pirate700
How do you know? And even if they do, then that's all the more reason for capital punishment. It's not supposed to be something you want... I know based off the # of death row inmates who make appeals for a change of sentence. And the death penalty is not a deterent to crime. The reason I don't kill people is because I don't want to hurt other people because I don't like the thought of them suffering. Not because I'm worried about going to prison or the death penalty.
No, innocent people can and have been executed and it is (by nature) more expensive than locking someone up for life. Those reasons alone are enough to warrant its abolishment.
Pirate700
The odds of that happening are so slim, the point is moot.
No, innocent people can and have been executed and it is (by nature) more expensive than locking someone up for life. Those reasons alone are enough to warrant its abolishment.
Guybrush_3
The odds of that happening are so slim, the point is moot.
In an ideal society in which it can be determined with 100% accuracy that the convicted individual is indeed the perpetrator, yes. In a non-ideal society, no.
No, innocent people can and have been executed and it is (by nature) more expensive than locking someone up for life. Those reasons alone are enough to warrant its abolishment.
Guybrush_3
Its incredibly rare for someone to get executed for a crime they didn't commit now days as forensic science is alot better than it was years ago
The death penalty is a flawed practice that produces a paradox (if we say a killer deserves death, then the killer of the criminal also deserves death... etc.etc.). It isn't necessary in a society with a working justice system that keeps violent criminals away from the public.
No, innocent people can and have been executed and it is (by nature) more expensive than locking someone up for life. Those reasons alone are enough to warrant its abolishment.
sexyweapons
Its incredibly rare for someone to get executed for a crime they didn't commit now days as forensic science is alot better than it was years ago
It's happened as recently as 2004. The death penalty is wrong.
The death penalty does more harm than good..[QUOTE="BossPerson"]
Lol at the people who think the death penalty is more cruel than locking someone in a cage for 40 years.
StRaItJaCkEt36
Most death row inmates would rather be incarcerated for life than face the death penalty.I highly doubt that. Do you have any polls to cite or anything?
Its incredibly rare for someone to get executed for a crime they didn't commit now days as forensic science is alot better than it was years agosexyweapons
Forensic science has come so far that explaining it to a jury in a way they could understand is close to impossible. The average "joe" off the street can barely understand blood typing... DNA sequencing? The problem with our justice system is the jury and the media. If it were just about the evidence, rather than the prosecutor/defence posturing for media recognition, and led by a tribunal of trained and elected judges, it would be so much more efficient and the right people would be going to jail.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said it was ok. One proven case out of how many 10s of thousands?
It's more than one case, and if you were an innocent man about to be executed would you still think it's ok that you are being murdered by the state? I mean you b*tch about taxes and other crap that government does wrong so often that I am surprised you are willing to leave your life in their hands.
No, innocent people can and have been executed and it is (by nature) more expensive than locking someone up for life. Those reasons alone are enough to warrant its abolishment.
Guybrush_3
The odds of that happening are so slim, the point is moot.
Wrong. It's happened.
You realise most of those examples were before the days of forensics right?
Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said it was ok. One proven case out of how many 10s of thousands?
It's more than one case, and if you were an innocent man about to be executed would you still think it's ok that you are being murdered by the state? I mean you b*tch about taxes and other crap that government does wrong so often that I am surprised you are willing to leave your life in their hands.
By your logic we shouldn't even lock anyone up either because they could be innocent. When the odds are as low as they are, at some point you have to accept them OK. It's extremely unfortunate and tragic of an innocent person gets sentenced to death but the odds are beyond extremely low.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said it was ok. One proven case out of how many 10s of thousands? The fact that one innocent man was executed is horrifying Not sure why it would be moot, one is enough to put the death sentence down the toilet
Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said it was ok. One proven case out of how many 10s of thousands? The fact that one innocent man was executed is horrifying Not sure why it would be moot, one is enough to put the death sentence down the toiletI don't agree.
The fact that one innocent man was executed is horrifying Not sure why it would be moot, one is enough to put the death sentence down the toiletsupa_badman
Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said it was ok. One proven case out of how many 10s of thousands? The fact that one innocent man was executed is horrifying Not sure why it would be moot, one is enough to put the death sentence down the toilet
well then you should be complaining about the justice system then and not the death penalty shouldn't you?
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said it was ok. One proven case out of how many 10s of thousands?
Pirate700
It's more than one case, and if you were an innocent man about to be executed would you still think it's ok that you are being murdered by the state? I mean you b*tch about taxes and other crap that government does wrong so often that I am surprised you are willing to leave your life in their hands.
By your logic we shouldn't even lock anyone up either because they could be innocent. When the odds are as low as they are, at some point you have to accept them OK. It's extremely unfortunate and tragic of an innocent person gets sentenced to death but the odds are beyond extremely low. Even so, at least the innocent bastard isn't DEAD. You can do reparations for a guy wrongly imprisoned, can't do sh!t for a dead guy.
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said it was ok. One proven case out of how many 10s of thousands?
Pirate700
It's more than one case, and if you were an innocent man about to be executed would you still think it's ok that you are being murdered by the state? I mean you b*tch about taxes and other crap that government does wrong so often that I am surprised you are willing to leave your life in their hands.
By your logic we shouldn't even lock anyone up either because they could be innocent. When the odds are as low as they are, at some point you have to accept them OK. It's extremely unfortunate and tragic of an innocent person gets sentenced to death but the ods are beyond extremely low.
Not quite, you can set the someone free, but you can't raise the dead, and 12% of death row convictions are overturned, with that many wrongful convictions found you don't thing a few get through? That's laughable.
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