Congressman calls evolution a lie from the "pit of hell"

Don't be afraid to be specific. It's a Republican on the congressional science committee. Surprise, surprise.

Don't be afraid to be specific. It's a Republican on the congressional science committee. Surprise, surprise.

Blue-Sky

The first part doesn't surprise me, the second part scares the crap out of me.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Don't be afraid to be specific. It's a Republican on the congressional science committee. Surprise, surprise.

jimkabrhel

The first part doesn't surprise me, the second part scares the crap out of me.

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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Don't be afraid to be specific. It's a Republican on the congressional science committee. Surprise, surprise.

HoolaHoopMan

The first part doesn't surprise me, the second part scares the crap out of me.

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

A person like that should have nothing to do with science.

A person like that should have nothing to do with science.

SirWander

But please, show us your personal credentials.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

The first part doesn't surprise me, the second part scares the crap out of me.

Storm_Marine

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] People like this shouldn't be involved with ANYTHING concerning scientific policy in the US. Its a fvcking embarrassment to our country that such a low life moron can actually have a post like this. jimkabrhel

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

Obviously.

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.Storm_Marine

I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Storm_Marine

He thinks evolution is false.

Therefore I know more about science than he does.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Storm_Marine

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

Obviously.

But he has the right to do so because of his degree? I don't see the difference.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

JML897

He thinks evolution is false.

Therefore I know more about science than he does.

:lol: Ok.

he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD.

Storm_Marine

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

jimkabrhel

Obviously.

But he has the right to do so because of his degree? I don't see the difference.

I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] People like this shouldn't be involved with ANYTHING concerning scientific policy in the US. Its a fvcking embarrassment to our country that such a low life moron can actually have a post like this. jimkabrhel

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

Err, you have the right to make any proclamation credentials aside. Also, he is not a low-life moron for not believing in evolution. A low life moron is a drug dealer, an abusive father or things similar.

Storm_Marine let's play StarCraft II, bro.

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Obviously.

Storm_Marine

But he has the right to do so because of his degree? I don't see the difference.

I'm annoyed when people completely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.

He could be a great father, pillar of his community and an insane poker player. I don't care. I do care that someone disconnected with the fundamentals of science in a position to create scientific based policy.

Storm_Marine let's play StarCraft II, bro.

Aljosa23

i'm kind of tired and jet lagged but we could play sometime tomorrow or so

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

But he has the right to do so because of his degree? I don't see the difference.

jimkabrhel

I'm annoyed when people completely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.

He could be a great father, pillar of his community and an insane poker player. I don't care. I do care that someone disconnected with the fundamentals of science in a position to create scientific based policy.

You act as if evolutionary biology is the entirety of science and that any random evolution believing forum goer is more qualified than him regardless about what they know about the rest of the world.

But please, show us your personal credentials.

Storm_Marine

Only when you show your credentials first, it would only be polite.

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Obviously.

Storm_Marine

But he has the right to do so because of his degree? I don't see the difference.

I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.

I'm with you man. The guy doesn't believe in evolution and is immediately considered a low life moron, an imbecile and a complete idiot. Perhaps he doesn't understand/want to believe in evolution, but it doesn't mean he doesn't excel in other fields of science or other academic branches, or even common sense, which I'm sure some people in this thread lack.

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Storm_Marine let's play StarCraft II, bro.

Storm_Marine

i'm kind of tired and jet lagged but we could play sometime tomorrow or so

I'm pretty bad :<

Find it funny how people are calling someone with an MD stupid. He's accomplished more than any of you losers (with the exception of a select few who know who they are). And I find it quite revealing that masters of human biology (doctors) reject this theory..not surprised. That's all I'm going to say.

I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.Storm_Marine

And to defend him? I have absolutely no words for you. If you are merely making argument for argument's sake, then fine... but if you truly wish to defend such an individual as this, I wish to disassociate myself from you immediately, as you are an enemy of human kind, and our very survival.Zeviander

don't make me post that picture.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.Zeviander

Oh snap. Am I allowed to quote this? It should go in my sig.

Storm Marine, Enemy of Mankind.

And (presumably) Destroyer of Worlds.

Storm Marine, Enemy of Mankind.

Storm_Marine

[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I'm annoyed when people completely and entirely belittle and discredit a person based off of something like this. Obviously the guy is out of touch with biology and genetics, that does not mean he's out of touch with everything else.Storm_Marine

Oh snap. Am I allowed to quote this? It should go in my sig.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] And to defend him? I have absolutely no words for you. If you are merely making argument for argument's sake, then fine... but if you truly wish to defend such an individual as this, I wish to disassociate myself from you immediately, as you are an enemy of human kind, and our very survival.kingkong0124

don't make me post that picture.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] And to defend him? I have absolutely no words for you. If you are merely making argument for argument's sake, then fine... but if you truly wish to defend such an individual as this, I wish to disassociate myself from you immediately, as you are an enemy of human kind, and our very survival.Aljosa23

don't make me post that picture.

I am. I'd probably be adding fuel to the fire.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I'm not endorsing him but he's got a Bsc in Chemistry and is a MD. Religious beliefs aside, I have a feeling he might know a bit more than you guys do. Just saying.

Storm_Marine

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

Obviously.

Apparently his credentials are not more impressive than Jim's.

Find it funny how people are calling someone with an MD stupid. He's accomplished more than any of you losers (with the exception of a select few who know who they are). And I find it quite revealing that masters of human biology (doctors) reject this theory..not surprised.

kingkong0124

no one in this thread has said he's stupid, or an idiot. His accomplishments are not being questioned, nor does a person's lack of accomplishments render an opinion null. Is their a quantifiable number of doctors that have rejected this theory, and have they done so out of some bias.

but what is being criticized is that ridiculous statement.

That's all I'm going to say.

kingkong0124

feel free to not reply

don't make me post that picture.kingkong0124

You kids missed the first part of the topic title where it said "Congressman."

Politicians will be politicians. They appeal to a demographic that will get them elected by using whatever means necessary so they can make $150k+ a year not counting benefits and information. I find it more sad that people will elect someone like him than him supposedly 'believing' what he's saying.

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I have a PhD in Chemistry. Just because I have an advanced degree doesn't give me the right to make proclamations like this, especially those that have no basis in reality. It's one thing to suggest that some higher being has a hand in the design of the universe, it's another to suggest that science is the work of the Devil.

TacticalDesire

Obviously.

Apparently his credentials are not more impressive than Jim's.

Techically you're right. Though we're in different fields completely and who's judging?

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Find it funny how people are calling someone with an MD stupid. He's accomplished more than any of you losers (with the exception of a select few who know who they are). And I find it quite revealing that masters of human biology (doctors) reject this theory..not surprised.

SirWander

no one in this thread has said he's stupid, or an idiot. His accomplishments are not being questioned, nor does a person's lack of accomplishments render an opinion null. Is their a quantifiable number of doctors that have rejected this theory, and have they done so out of some bias.

but what is being criticized is that ridiculous statement.

That's all I'm going to say.

kingkong0124

feel free to not reply

people have called him horrible names. You can look up stats on doctors that reject this theory, there's plenty of them out there. While they may have rejected the theory due to bias, some may have promoted the theory due to their own biases.

Zeviander

Sorry, I like to laugh at it. And I don't obsess over your picture, I simply came across it. After your many insults towards myself and others, I had to look for something. Didn't have to look hard.

It isn't just evolutionary biology. He mentions the Bing Bang theory also. As I said, he 's more that welcome to espouse his own mixture of science and religion. However, he should, as a member of an important Congressional committee relating to science, should seek to disconnect from wild religious theories and stick closer to peer-reviewed scientific literature. Of the type this man needed to read for his degrees.jimkabrhel

Who said you have to accept those theories to be part of that committee? In this case, a variety of viewpoints, would, in my opinion, be the best option.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]It isn't just evolutionary biology. He mentions the Bing Bang theory also. As I said, he 's more that welcome to espouse his own mixture of science and religion. However, he should, as a member of an important Congressional committee relating to science, should seek to disconnect from wild religious theories and stick closer to peer-reviewed scientific literature. Of the type this man needed to read for his degrees.kingkong0124

Who said you have to accept those theories to be part of that committee? In this case, a variety of viewpoints, would, in my opinion, be the best option.

Bing Bang was just me destroying worlds as usual.

I swear it really amazes me how some these guys make it into Harvard and Yale.Fightingfan

Maybe he's better at math than you?

Sorry, I like to laugh at it. And I don't obsess over your picture, I simply came across it. After your many insults towards myself and others, I had to look for something. Didn't have to look hard.kingkong0124