Bill Gates or Steve Jobs: Which one you consider to be more visionary / smarter?

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#1 Mystery_Writer
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Clearly both are highly accomplished individuals, but which one you believe is more visionary & smarter?

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#2 Anti-Venom
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Gates by a long shot.
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#3 Pirate700
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Bill Gates and it's not even close. He created the universal standard. Jobs deals in gimmicks and trends.

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#4 Nifty_Shark
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Well didn't Gates pretty much steal from Apple. It's been a while since I've seen the flick Pirates of Silicon Valley.
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#5 SimpJee
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I'd say it depends on where you are looking from. Jobs was more hardware in the early days, and helped invent one of the first PC's. Gates bought the product that would become the Windows operating system. I'd still go Gates, but Jobs was and still is a big player today. Gates kind of just sits in the background at the moment, does charity work.

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#6 Buttmonkey9000
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Bill Gates and it's not even close. He created the universal standard. Jobs deals in gimmicks and trends.

Pirate700
Exactly - It might seem that Gates is 'smarter' while Jobs is the 'visionary' because of Apple's 'style'; But to use the 'think ouside the box metaphor' :P the box that Jobs allegedly thinks outside of was effectively created by Bill Gates.
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Well didn't Gates pretty much steal from Apple. It's been a while since I've seen the flick Pirates of Silicon Valley.Nifty_Shark
No not really.No.No he didn't.No.Idon't think so.Nope.NANA.No. :lol:
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#8 ShAbInAtOr
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Bill Gates all the way...!

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[QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]Well didn't Gates pretty much steal from Apple. It's been a while since I've seen the flick Pirates of Silicon Valley.ShAbInAtOr
No not really.No.No he didn't.No.Idon't think so.Nope.NANA.No. :lol:

Well in the movie it had Bill and his team working with those new LISA computers and basically Bill modified it a bit and started selling it as Windows.

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iPhone revolutionized my life...

can't say the same for anything Bill Gates has achieved...I dont even use windows anymore

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#11 Blubadox
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Bill obviously, steve stole his tablet idea- he also stole stuff from xerox, he is kinda psychotic.
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#12 Pirate700
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iPhone revolutionized my life... can't say the same for anything Bill Gates has achievedsboyer2
How about the computer you're on now? And if a phone revolutionized your life.....

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[QUOTE="sboyer2"]iPhone revolutionized my life... can't say the same for anything Bill Gates has achievedPirate700

How about the computer you're on now? And if a phone revolutionized your life.....

i use a mac
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iPhone revolutionized my life... can't say the same for anything Bill Gates has achievedsboyer2
So Microsoft hasn't revolutionized your life in any way whatsoever... If Microsoft had never existed, you're life would be exactly the same?
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#15 bededog
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I like Gates better as a person, Jobs is just a dick. I can't say I like the companies Apple or Microsoft though; lately Apple been getting worse and worse. Wozniak >>> Gates >>>> Jobs.
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I'll say Steve Jobs because you guys can cry and scream all you want about Apple, but the fact is he's a genious marketer and can sell his proucts EVEN IF THEY'RE GARBAGE.

But it doesn't really matter what I say here because you guys are incredibly biased towards apple so you'll probably start saying a bunch of things against Steve Jobs.

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I think they're both nothing without the armada of genuinely intelligent, creative people working for them. They both just have the honor of taking what those hard-working people create and unveiling it on a stage in front of all the media.
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#18 CRS98
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Bill Gates. He did create the highest-selling operating system. And also, because Apple is evil.

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#19 Colin1192
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Billy G. he created it all

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Bill Gates and it's not even close. He created the universal standard. Jobs deals in gimmicks and trends.

Pirate700


This, most definitely. Gates was good at producing programs that pushed computing forwards. Jobs knows what sells to a particular type of consumer, and knows how to exploit it (much like Nintendo has done with the Wii). They are both intellignet in their own ways, but Gates has done far more for the computing industry before 1990 than Jobs could ever hope to do in his lifetime.

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Well didn't Gates pretty much steal from Apple. It's been a while since I've seen the flick Pirates of Silicon Valley.Nifty_Shark
Wouldn't that make him smarter then?
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#22 chessmaster1989
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Bill Gates by far...
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iPhone revolutionized my life...

can't say the same for anything Bill Gates has achieved...I dont even use windows anymore

sboyer2
Your life was revolutionised by a phone? :? How does your life differ so dramatically now that you have a phone?
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#24 kidsmelly
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I just voted Gates cause Steve seems to be full of himself these days.

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[QUOTE="ShAbInAtOr"][QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]Well didn't Gates pretty much steal from Apple. It's been a while since I've seen the flick Pirates of Silicon Valley.Nifty_Shark

No not really.No.No he didn't.No.Idon't think so.Nope.NANA.No. :lol:

Well in the movie it had Bill and his team working with those new LISA computers and basically Bill modified it a bit and started selling it as Windows.

Apple have an incredibly annoying habit of trying to patent things and claim they invented certain technologies which they just didn't. Many aspects of basic OS design were widely used by all kinds of companies making all kinds of OS software. Microsoft finally make a successful one then all of a sudden Apple decide they invented it all and were just letting others use it out of the goodness of their hearts. I'm glad they were laughed out of the patent office when they tried to patent the touch screen. :roll:
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#26 Immortal--
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Definitely Bill Gates.
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#27 35th_shields
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Gates, and it's not even close. And, if I remember correctly, Jobs ran several companies into the ground before he joined Apple.

Also, Jobs just seems like a total dick. Gates appears to be a genuinely nice and benevolent man.

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#28 coolbeans90
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Bill Gates and it's not even close. He created the universal standard. Jobs deals in gimmicks and trends.

Pirate700

And I'll have to completely agree.

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Bill Gates. He did create the highest-selling operating system. And also, because Apple is evil.

CRS98
When i read that part about the guy who lost an iPhone prototype being tortured and then killing himself, i thought it was a joke. Then i google it and that ACTUALLY HAPPENED. :? That is just insane.
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#30 Shadowchronicle
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Both steal from each other so I don't think either is smarter than the other. I would go for both.
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[QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]

[QUOTE="ShAbInAtOr"] No not really.No.No he didn't.No.Idon't think so.Nope.NANA.No. :lol:Ninja-Hippo

Well in the movie it had Bill and his team working with those new LISA computers and basically Bill modified it a bit and started selling it as Windows.

Apple have an incredibly annoying habit of trying to patent things and claim they invented certain technologies which they just didn't. Many aspects of basic OS design were widely used by all kinds of companies making all kinds of OS software. Microsoft finally make a successful one then all of a sudden Apple decide they invented it all and were just letting others use it out of the goodness of their hearts. I'm glad they were laughed out of the patent office when they tried to patent the touch screen. :roll:

Well I think they do have a patent on multitouch... which they didn't invent. :evil:

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Bill Gates. He did create the highest-selling operating system. And also, because Apple is evil.

CRS98
Woah.....that was certainly eye opening.
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]

Well in the movie it had Bill and his team working with those new LISA computers and basically Bill modified it a bit and started selling it as Windows.

scoots9

Apple have an incredibly annoying habit of trying to patent things and claim they invented certain technologies which they just didn't. Many aspects of basic OS design were widely used by all kinds of companies making all kinds of OS software. Microsoft finally make a successful one then all of a sudden Apple decide they invented it all and were just letting others use it out of the goodness of their hearts. I'm glad they were laughed out of the patent office when they tried to patent the touch screen. :roll:

Well I think they do have a patent on multitouch... which they didn't invent. :evil:

I dont know about that, the Microsoft Zune HD has multi touch, so unless they help each other out...
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#34 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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Bill Gates by far. Steve Jobs has had some alright ideas and I'm sure he's a smart enough guy, but I think the genius behind Apple is Steve Wozniak. I'll give Wozniak credit any day.
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#35 clayron
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Bill Gates by far. Steve Jobs has had some alright ideas and I'm sure he's a smart enough guy, but I think the genius behind Apple is Steve Wozniak. I'll give Wozniak credit any day.t3hrubikscube
I expected a rant from you on the greatest that is Gates.
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Jobs can create some neat products, but Bill Gates is a brilliant businessman.
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#37 Serraph105
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I'll say Steve Jobs because you guys can cry and scream all you want about Apple, but the fact is he's a genious marketer and can sell his proucts EVEN IF THEY'RE GARBAGE.

But it doesn't really matter what I say here because you guys are incredibly biased towards apple so you'll probably start saying a bunch of things against Steve Jobs.

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ushotdead
actually no. As much as I don't like the way Apple does business they are mad geniuses to get everyone to go along with it. Also its fairly well known that Bill stole windows from Steve.
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[QUOTE="ushotdead"]

I'll say Steve Jobs because you guys can cry and scream all you want about Apple, but the fact is he's a genious marketer and can sell his proucts EVEN IF THEY'RE GARBAGE.

But it doesn't really matter what I say here because you guys are incredibly biased towards apple so you'll probably start saying a bunch of things against Steve Jobs.

inb410millionpc>mac pics

Serraph105

actually no. As much as I don't like the way Apple does business they are mad geniuses to get everyone to go along with it. Also its fairly well known that Bill stole windows from Steve.

And steve stole it from xerox.

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#39 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="sboyer2"]

iPhone revolutionized my life...

can't say the same for anything Bill Gates has achieved...I dont even use windows anymore

Ninja-Hippo

Your life was revolutionised by a phone? :? How does your life differ so dramatically now that you have a phone?

oh come on now. The Iphone is a multifunctional device in which you can do almost anything with so long as what you are doing uses technology.

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Bill Gates. He did create the highest-selling operating system. And also, because Apple is evil.

CRS98


Wow... I will now be removing all Apple software from my computer and will never,ever buy or use an Apple product... ever. That is absolutely, astoundingly, mind-****ingly in-sane. Stopping the device from working because the user didn't respond to a forced ad? That is downright diabolical. Even the devil himself wouldn't be able to think up something like that.

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#41 Brainkiller05
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Well the poll speaks for itself, unlucky Steve.

Also I like how Microsoft invested in Apple.

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[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]Bill Gates by far. Steve Jobs has had some alright ideas and I'm sure he's a smart enough guy, but I think the genius behind Apple is Steve Wozniak. I'll give Wozniak credit any day.clayron
I expected a rant from you on the greatest that is Gates.

Hahaha! I actually did start typing one out, but I figured it'd be pointless. :P
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Steve Jobs. He never "created" a product, he just made it even better. I think the iPad will be very important not just for consumer use, but for other fields as well.

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#44 Plzhelpmelearn
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I like Gates more than Jobs. However, I think without either not much would be different from now. I think the PC as we know it was almost an inevitability by the time Gates started selling windows and Jobs has not done much but prove how dumb the human population of earth is.

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I dont really like Steve Jobs.

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I think they're both nothing without the armada of genuinely intelligent, creative people working for them. They both just have the honor of taking what those hard-working people create and unveiling it on a stage in front of all the media. Ninja-Hippo
This. Although I think Gates has done more than Jobs when it comes to actually working.
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Gates all the way.
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#48 m0zart
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I think of Gates as more of the competitive businessman. He isn't someone who knows how to create big things himself, but he's good at taking the achievements of others and packaging them into a marketable product. He's good at pushing that product.

Steve Jobs I've always thought of as a more artistic type. I remember seeing him interviewed in the '90s about the design of the Apple II. He went into great detail about the use of space inside of the unit, and he spoke of the placement of components in clearly artistic terms. It was like a canvas for him. He merged the technical and creative in ways I hadn't really considered myself.

In other words, I don't believe they are directly comparable, at least not in the context of the question, i.e. "visionary/smarter".

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Jobs is repeatable able to convince millions of people to pay for his over priced shiny products.

That takes high levels of intelligence on his part.:P

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#50 Crazyguy105
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Definitely Bill Gates.