Are human beings inherently evil?

So other animal does what we humans do. No animal would consider sex with corpses but humans. No other animals subjegates other animals in pens for a massive food source. No other animal does tests on other animals. No other animal has created weapons build specifically to hurt or kill other members of it's species. Animals don't exbit any racism (black, brown, and white sheep get along equally). I could continue, but I think the evidence shows that humans are evil and we have to be willing to reinvent ourselves to order to advance our evolution.

Penguins have been reported not only to rape each over but to also murder them and then rape their corpse.

what is this the dark ages?

no such thing as good or evil

Duality, You get the good with the bad.

Nope.

No

Penguins have been reported not only to rape each over but to also murder them and then rape their corpse.

toast_burner

There is no good. There is no evil. There is no such thing as morality. It is simply a matter of one's own simple personality and inferences.

what is this the dark ages?

no such thing as good or evil

almasdeathchild

Sort of, man is natrually mixed with 'good' and 'evil'.

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Penguins have been reported not only to rape each over but to also murder them and then rape their corpse.

Yusuke420

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/about-us/news/2012/june/penguin-sex-habits-study-rediscovered-at-museum110510.html

Don't let their cute exterior deceive you.

There is no good. There is no evil. There is no such thing as morality. It is simply a matter of one's own simple personality and inferences.

TheFallenDemon

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Penguins have been reported not only to rape each over but to also murder them and then rape their corpse.

toast_burner

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/about-us/news/2012/june/penguin-sex-habits-study-rediscovered-at-museum110510.html

Don't let their cute exterior deceive you.

Nice to see I have some material for my dark, mature interpretation on "Mr. Popper's Penguins."

We are evolving it's a slow progress. And good and evil are man made concepts with no real meaning.MrPraline

No but yes. Humanity is dualistic in nature and thus is capable of both great good and great evil. The very same person is capable of both great social good and abhorrent evil. The worst of us is capable of some good and the best of us is still imperfect. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God - all but one. This sole individual who never did any evil was Jesus Christ. We who have fallen short of God's perfection can still be found innocent in the eyes of God despite our sin because of Jesus Christ. He died our death and because of his resurrection we who deserve death can also know resurrection and redemption. mindstorm

I say yes simply because its usually human nature to do the wrong thing because its easier / more beneficial to + we suffer from emotions like greed and what not. I think most humans spend quite a bit of time learning how to do the quote on quote the right thing while growing up but we start off like ball of evil for sure or we wouldnt have to learn that stuff. Now does that mean we are all psychopathic killers no but people naturally harbor evil thoughts. For example, say your walking down a sidewalk and a $100 bill falls off someone in front of you. You have a choice to make return the money or keep it and no one will ever know you took it. Many would probably say they would return it but in reality most would keep it. Even worse i would bet that most people have thoughts of doing something to someone they really didnt like but just dont act on it.

My point being is that in many cases humans will do what is considered to to be the wrong or evil if you will. The thing is though that we are trained from birth not to do those things if you had a proper upbringing that is. If you could make a window into our minds though you would see some crazy stuff. Imagine that movie the cell. In a nutshell its called self control.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]We are evolving it's a slow progress. And good and evil are man made concepts with no real meaning.hiphops_savior

"...Nature is not cruel, only pitilessly indifferent. This is one of the hardest lessons for humans to learn. We cannot admit that things might be neither good nor evil, neither cruel nor kind, but simply callous - indifferent to all suffering, lacking all purpose."

- Richard Dawkins ~ River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life

So other animal does what we humans do. No animal would consider sex with corpses but humans. No other animals subjegates other animals in pens for a massive food source. No other animal does tests on other animals. No other animal has created weapons build specifically to hurt or kill other members of it's species. Animals don't exbit any racism (black, brown, and white sheep get along equally). I could continue, but I think the evidence shows that humans are evil and we have to be willing to reinvent ourselves to order to advance our evolution.

Yusuke420

Wrong

The first case of homosexual necrophilia in the
mallard Anas platyrhynchos (Aves:Anatidae)

On 5 June 1995 an adult male mallard (Anas platyrhynchos) collided with the glass façade of the
Natuurmuseum Rotterdam and died. An other drake mallard raped the corpse almost continuously
for 75 minutes. Then the author disturbed the scene and secured the dead duck. Dissection
showed that the rape-victim indeed was of the male sex. It is concluded that the mallards were
engaged in an Attempted Rape Flight that resulted in the first described case of homosexual
necrophilia in the mallard.

Please stop with the "there is not evil argument". That is simply too vast a discussion to get into. We live in the scope that our laws create and unfortunately that has to be the guide line of what is and isn't acceptable. I don't always agree with this process (the prohibition of Cannibus being my major point of contention with our lawmakers), I have to accept that this is the way life is shaped for the time being. Remember it was legal just one hundred years ago to wed girls as young as 12, so I understand landscape shift, but I think it will be always unacceptable to kill people.

Please stop with the "there is not evil argument". That is simply too vast a discussion to get into. We live in the scope that our laws create and unfortunately that has to be the guide line of what is and isn't acceptable. I don't always agree with this process (the prohibition of Cannibus being my major point of contention with our lawmakers), I have to accept that this is the way life is shaped for the time being. Remember it was legal just one hundred years ago to wed girls as young as 12, so I understand landscape shift, but I think it will be always unacceptable to kill people.

Yusuke420

Depends on the conditioning of the human. I believe nature would have us be good, the nurture is what turns us evil; our experiences and what we learn from them.

Humans are not inherently anything. There exists no human nature or nature of any kind for that matter.

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Please stop with the "there is not evil argument". That is simply too vast a discussion to get into. We live in the scope that our laws create and unfortunately that has to be the guide line of what is and isn't acceptable. I don't always agree with this process (the prohibition of Cannibus being my major point of contention with our lawmakers), I have to accept that this is the way life is shaped for the time being. Remember it was legal just one hundred years ago to wed girls as young as 12, so I understand landscape shift, but I think it will be always unacceptable to kill people.

MrPraline

I don't know though there are plenty of rich people that smoke cannibus though and very little progress has been made on the issue. All of hip hop should have enough money to change this type of law in washington, but for some reason that doesn't happen. I'm getting off track though, but if anyone is interested in debate I could open a marijuana discussion thread.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

what is this the dark ages?

no such thing as good or evil

Yusuke420

religion has had mass murder and it's praised as something good

this is no different

no such thing as good or evil

We are evolving it's a slow progress. And good and evil are man made concepts with no real meaning.MrPraline

HE HATES ME YET HE CAUGHT ME MAN IS GOODv13_KiiLtz

HE WAS HORNY

SO HE DROPPED HIM

MAN IS EVIL!

No, that's ridiculous. Humans are inherently good, not evil.

Lions kill the offspring of other male lions in their pride. There are lots of other behaviors that would be considered pretty cruel. You're just looking through everything with a biased perspective.

No, that's ridiculous. Humans are inherently good, not evil.

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