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#51 StealthMonkey4
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Evil spelled backwards is "live".Zeviander

And...?

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#52 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Evil spelled backwards is "live".StealthMonkey4

And...?

I think he's trying to be clever.....I could be wrong. Maybe he just had nothing to say.
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#53 FMAB_GTO
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Evil spelled backwards is "live".Zeviander
And Yelnats is the opposite of Stanley :o
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#54 N30F3N1X
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Man if thats true it's a sad world we live in. FPSfan1985

Why? Everyone of us has different things we value more than others. Idealism is delusional.

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#55 Zeviander
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I think he's trying to be clever.....I could be wrong. Maybe he just had nothing to say.LJS9502_basic
Little from column A, little from column B. For someone who thinks morality doesn't exist in a definable sense (beyond a subjective concept used by human beings to judge the actions of others), I really have very little beyond a witty quip to add to such a thread, but felt like I needed to contribute something. Might as well be something that might trip out a stoner or something.
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#56 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]Man if thats true it's a sad world we live in. N30F3N1X

Why? Everyone of us has different things we value more than others. Idealism is delusional.

No I just mean if you look at it that way all the selfish, cruel, and hurtful things we do are totally against our nature, but we do them anyway. Just a scary thought imo.
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#57 Soniczero1993
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Bagels are the opposite of doughnuts.
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#58 FMAB_GTO
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Bagels are the opposite of doughnuts.Soniczero1993
Nitsuj is the opposite of Justin. =P
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#59 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]Man if thats true it's a sad world we live in. FPSfan1985

Why? Everyone of us has different things we value more than others. Idealism is delusional.

No I just mean if you look at it that way all the selfish, cruel, and hurtful things we do are totally against our nature, but we do them anyway. Just a scary thought imo.

We? Not all people are the same dude....

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#60 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]Bagels are the opposite of doughnuts.FMAB_GTO
Nitsuj is the opposite of Justin. =P

I see what you did there.
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#61 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

Why? Everyone of us has different things we value more than others. Idealism is delusional.

LJS9502_basic

No I just mean if you look at it that way all the selfish, cruel, and hurtful things we do are totally against our nature, but we do them anyway. Just a scary thought imo.

We? Not all people are the same dude....

I disagree, we are. We have just learned a couple different things on the up. Making us seem different.
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#62 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]Bagels are the opposite of doughnuts.Soniczero1993
Nitsuj is the opposite of Justin. =P

I see what you did there.

ereth is the opposite of there :3
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#63 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]Bagels are the opposite of doughnuts.Soniczero1993
Nitsuj is the opposite of Justin. =P

I see what you did there.

How do you get away with that sig?
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#64 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] No I just mean if you look at it that way all the selfish, cruel, and hurtful things we do are totally against our nature, but we do them anyway. Just a scary thought imo. FPSfan1985

We? Not all people are the same dude....

I disagree, we are. We have just learned a couple different things on the up. Making us seem different.

And your evidence that all people are the same?

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#65 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"][QUOTE="some guy"] Nitsuj is the opposite of Justin. =PFMAB_GTO
I see what you did there.

How do you get away with that sig?

By being a ranger.

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#66 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] We? Not all people are the same dude....

LJS9502_basic

I disagree, we are. We have just learned a couple different things on the up. Making us seem different.

And your evidence that all people are the same?

Zero, just a belief.
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#67 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] Nitsuj is the opposite of Justin. =P

I see what you did there.

ereth is the opposite of there :3

Racecar is the opposite of racecar.
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#68 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] I disagree, we are. We have just learned a couple different things on the up. Making us seem different.FPSfan1985

And your evidence that all people are the same?

Zero, just a belief.

Then your statements were incorrect.
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#69 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"] I see what you did there.

ereth is the opposite of there :3

Racecar is the opposite of racecar.

:o mom is the opposite of mom :3
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#70 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]And your evidence that all people are the same?LJS9502_basic
Zero, just a belief.

Then your statements were incorrect.

...how? Not possible for an opinion to be incorrect.
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#71 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Zero, just a belief.

Then your statements were incorrect.

...how? Not possible for an opinion to be incorrect.

You didn't phrase it as an opinion. And opinions can be incorrect. If I told you my opinion was that 2 + 2 = 5 would you say my opinion was correct? There is a difference between fact based and aesthetic.
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#72 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] ereth is the opposite of there :3

Racecar is the opposite of racecar.

:o mom is the opposite of mom :3

Where are we going with this?
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#73 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"] Racecar is the opposite of racecar.

:o mom is the opposite of mom :3

Where are we going with this?

you tell me,3991orezcinos =P
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#74 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"] I see what you did there.Soniczero1993

How do you get away with that sig?

By being a ranger.

You can be de-rangered just like some were de-modded.:o

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#75 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]How do you get away with that sig?LJS9502_basic

By being a ranger.

You can be de-rangered just like some were de-modded.:o

People wuv me.
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#76 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] :o mom is the opposite of mom :3

Where are we going with this?

you tell me,3991orezcinos =P

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#77 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Then your statements were incorrect.

...how? Not possible for an opinion to be incorrect.

You didn't phrase it as an opinion. And opinions can be incorrect. If I told you my opinion was that 2 + 2 = 5 would you say my opinion was correct? There is a difference between fact based and aesthetic.

I did phrase it like an opinion. I said I disagree, not that you were wrong or I was right. 2+2=5 can't be an opinion because simple math is based on complete certainty.
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#78 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"] Where are we going with this?

you tell me,3991orezcinos =P

OTG_BAMF

gge retsea XD
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#79 N30F3N1X
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No I just mean if you look at it that way all the selfish, cruel, and hurtful things we do are totally against our nature, but we do them anyway. Just a scary thought imo. FPSfan1985

It's easy to point fingers when you don't know what goes on in someone else's mind. You wouldn't call Einstein, Fermi or Truman evil, would you? Yet they all knew what the consequences of the A-bomb would be.

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#80 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]No I just mean if you look at it that way all the selfish, cruel, and hurtful things we do are totally against our nature, but we do them anyway. Just a scary thought imo. N30F3N1X

It's easy to point fingers when you don't know what goes on in someone else's mind. You wouldn't call Einstein, Fermi or Truman evil, would you? Yet they all knew what the consequences of the A-bomb would be.

As a whole of course not. In that moment yes. Evil is some times necessary.
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#81 Soniczero1993
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gge retsea XDGTO_BAMF

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#82 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="GTO_BAMF"]gge retsea XDSoniczero1993

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.noitnemid esrevni na morf mi esuaceb
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#83 quebec946
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humans overall alignment is: chaotic neutral

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#84 Zeviander
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No I just mean if you look at it that way all the selfish, cruel, and hurtful things we do are totally against our nature, but we do them anyway. Just a scary thought imo. FPSfan1985
What "nature"? If we do them, then they must be a part of our "nature" because human beings are a product of nature. The limit to which you could say something like this would be that we as a species are more leaning towards cooperation and selflessness because it aids in our survival as a species. Down to the individual level, all bets are off.
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#85 MirkoS77
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] Nitsuj is the opposite of Justin. =PLJS9502_basic
I see what you did there.

How do you get away with that sig?

If you're reffering to the Swastika, the arms go to the left. The Nazi Swastika has arms pointed to the right. Unless you mean something else (then my bad), but that's all I can see about that sig that could be construed as objectionable.

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#86 Zeviander
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If you're reffering to the Swastika, the arms go to the left. The Nazi Swastika has arms pointed to the right. Unless you mean something else (then my bad), but that's all I can see about that sig that could be construed as objectionable.MirkoS77
Indeed. The non-Nazi swastika is a symbol of luck in Hinduism, Buddhism and (AFAIK) Jainism. Granted, it is rarely seen tilted 45 degrees.
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#87 N30F3N1X
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As a whole of course not. In that moment yes. Evil is some times necessary.FPSfan1985

"As a whole"

Exactly my point. That goes for everyone.

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#88 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="GTO_BAMF"]gge retsea XDSoniczero1993

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#89 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]

[QUOTE="GTO_BAMF"]gge retsea XDN30F3N1X

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?damU

This man wins.
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#90 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]

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Soniczero1993

?damU

This man wins.

I agree < 3333
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#91 Laihendi
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what is this the dark ages?

no such thing as good or evil

almasdeathchild
So basically what you're saying is that Hitler and Stalin didn't do anything wrong, and if you think they did then you're living in the dark ages.
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#92 michael_1234576
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I'm only a bit evil
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#93 AlexZor
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Also lets not make this a metaphysical arguement about the concepts of right versus wrong because that's a different, more broad conversation.Yusuke420

Okay. The answer is butter.

butterosophy

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#94 PsychoLemons
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Ignorant or irresponsible, in my opinion.

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#95 Dubaholick
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I wouldn't say that human beings are inherently evil, unless pursing self satisfaction by any means necessary fits the bill
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#96 lo_Pine
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Serious question: Do you want to be evil? Because, you certainly can. Just ask me.

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#97 lo_Pine
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So other animal does what we humans do. No animal would consider sex with corpses but humans. No other animals subjegates other animals in pens for a massive food source. No other animal does tests on other animals. No other animal has created weapons build specifically to hurt or kill other members of it's species. Animals don't exbit any racism (black, brown, and white sheep get along equally). I could continue, but I think the evidence shows that humans are evil and we have to be willing to reinvent ourselves to order to advance our evolution.

Yusuke420

How about I just explain to you what evil fun is? It involves 8 things: your crew, cocaine, marijuana, alcohol, rope, 6 gallons of gasoline, a barell, and a disposable human. Do the drugs, rope up the human, toss him in the barrell, dump gasoline on him, and light him on fire. Watch him burn and see if he can move his arms after the fire burns the rope. That part is interesting.

Then go get laid. The girl should already be provided for you in your crew. That is the recipe and those are the ingredients.

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#98 Inconsistancy
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No humans, like the other animals we descend from and are relatives of, are naturally altruistic (or we'd never have developed societies in the first place). Though we develop cultures that can be very dangerous, you aren't born with hate, you're taught it.
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#99 lo_Pine
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Guess no one cares about what real fun is.:shock: