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#1 The-Deer-Hunter
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This is why you DONT join the military. Among the benefits that people claim it has the side effects are not worth it unless your planning on being a military secratary.

1. You get shot and die

2. You have to live your whole life knowing you killed a man/men or in some cases a women or child

3. You can die in Iraq but cant have a drink until your 21

4. The military targets boys not men

5. You have to leave your wife/children and home

6. You have to put up with your friends being killed

7. You have to live in cruddy conditions and follow orders

8. You are not really fighting for your country (nowadays anyway)

9. It will stay with you your whole life

10. You have the illusion of pride

These are my opinions and I do not mean to offend anyone.

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#2 lycrof
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DOnt let nicktehimperial see this
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#3 double_decker
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This thread will get big I have a feeling.. thanks for sharing your opinion, I am sure there will be many contrary ones *gets popcorn*8)
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#4 Goldeneyemaster
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Good points
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#5 Aznsilvrboy
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You do realize there are NON-combatant roles in the military right...
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#6 KingPeru
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u should add one more

If you drop the soap, ur screwed......literally
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#7 loismustdie47
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On the plus side, you do get to kill people, so...yeah
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#8 JohnBasedow
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Go hunt an animal that can't shoot back towelboy.......
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#9 letswastemoney
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Let people join the military if they want...

I would never do it myself though for the above mentioned reasons.

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#10 YeahYes
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Joining the Military was the dumbest decision I ever made, the best was when I got out

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#11 B05T0N
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You do realize there are NON-combatant roles in the military right...Aznsilvrboy

I was gonna say...
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#12 The-Deer-Hunter
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Go hunt an animal that can't shoot back towelboy....... JohnBasedow
Read my blog first. I don't hunt I just liked the movie.
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#13 branketra
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1. You do?

2. Well 1 let's me not worry about that.

3. It's not just Iraq, it's the military in general.

4. War...war never changes.

5. Given.

6. Given....unless you choose to do what needs to be done in order to avoid that.

7. Wow.

8. Depends.

9. #1.

10. They do?

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#14 dissonantblack
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when you join the military, they literally own you. they could call you up at like 4 in the morning and say "pack your stuff you're going to timbuktu"
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#15 staindcoldlp
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DOnt let nicktehimperial see thislycrof

He got banned.

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#16 JohnBasedow
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[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]Go hunt an animal that can't shoot back towelboy....... The-Deer-Hunter
Read my blog first. I don't hunt I just liked the movie.

just read your blog, you'll change the way you think about the militaryas you get older.
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#17 Funkdaddy13
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1) You don't have to join 2) Big deal... It's war. People die. I don't see people whining about Darfur... 3) I'd rather not have some 18 year old moron driving and drinking (not you, TC) 4) Dur... I don't expect them to recruit from the retirement home 5) That's war... Don't like it, don't join 6) He had the option to not join 7) Duh... It's the military, not the yacht club 8) Yeah... People join the military for the fame... :roll: 9) ??? 10) Yeah, easy for you to say that when millions of people have died to save your ***... :? (not just in Iraq)
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#18 Funkdaddy13
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1) You don't have to join 2) Big deal... It's war. People die. I don't see people whining about Darfur... 3) I'd rather not have some 18 year old moron driving 4) Dur... I don't expect them to recruit from the retirement home 5) That's war... Don't like it, don't join 6) He had the option to not join 7) Duh... It's the military, not the yacht club 8) Yeah... People join the military for the fame... :roll: 9) ??? 10) Yeah, easy for you to say that when millions of people have died to save your ***... :? (not just in Iraq)
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#19 reservoir_doggy
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u should add one more

If you drop the soap, ur screwed......literally
KingPeru
what a nice thing to say about people tht fight for your freedom
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#20 Dark__Link
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You don't intend to offend anyone?  Any truth to that statement went out the window when you listed #10.  :|
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#21 JohnBasedow
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Joining the Military was the dumbest decision I ever made, the best was when I got out

YeahYes
what happened?
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#22 The-Deer-Hunter
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[QUOTE="The-Deer-Hunter"][QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]Go hunt an animal that can't shoot back towelboy....... JohnBasedow
Read my blog first. I don't hunt I just liked the movie.

just read your blog, you'll change the way you think about the militaryas you get older.

Dought it. My age doesn't make a difference here anyway.

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#23 chrisrooR
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1. You do?

BranKetra

Yes, you do.

http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/

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#24 verparanoidpers
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[QUOTE="lycrof"]DOnt let nicktehimperial see thisstaindcoldlp

He got banned.

WTF why?
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#25 JohnBasedow
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[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"][QUOTE="The-Deer-Hunter"][QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]Go hunt an animal that can't shoot back towelboy....... The-Deer-Hunter
Read my blog first. I don't hunt I just liked the movie.

just read your blog, you'll change the way you think about the militaryas you get older.

Dought it. My age doesn't make a difference here anyway.

Sure you will, I've changed alot of my views as I got older. As people get older they realize more about the world around them.
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#26 Funkdaddy13
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

1. You do?

chrisrooR

Yes, you do.

http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/

... Not everyone dies...
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#27 YeahYes
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[QUOTE="YeahYes"]

Joining the Military was the dumbest decision I ever made, the best was when I got out

JohnBasedow

what happened?

Well I just don't like being around cold-blooded killers all day long which was all the military was, and I basically went crazy and got a medical.

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#28 LJS9502_basic
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Well I just don't like being around cold-blooded killers all day long which was all the military was, and I basically went crazy and got a medical.

YeahYes

No...that's not what all the military is.:roll:

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#29 The-Deer-Hunter
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[QUOTE="The-Deer-Hunter"] 8. Again with the war....doesn't matter...you serve your country either way.

LJS9502_basic

By trying to convince a bunch or crazies with guns not to kill themselves?

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#30 YeahYes
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[QUOTE="YeahYes"]

Well I just don't like being around cold-blooded killers all day long which was all the military was, and I basically went crazy and got a medical.

LJS9502_basic

No...that's not what all the military is.:roll:

90% of the people I met there only wanted to kill rag-heads. I don't care it's a sick culture and im glad i got out of it without being brainwashed.

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#31 Iron_will
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But I live in Singapore and HAVE to spend at least 2 years there.
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#32 LJS9502_basic
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By trying to convince a bunch or crazies with guns not to kill themselves?

The-Deer-Hunter

What?

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#33 Funkdaddy13
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By trying to convince a bunch or crazies with guns not to kill themselves?The-Deer-Hunter
What you just said made you lose all credibility in this thread...
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#34 Funkdaddy13
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[QUOTE="The-Deer-Hunter"]

By trying to convince a bunch or crazies with guns not to kill themselves?

LJS9502_basic

What?

He's talking about Islamic extremists... :roll:
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#35 jlt21
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I take great offense to your post and letting you know that I am reporting you to the Mods. I have serverd for 4 years and just re-enlisted and can tell you that most of the stuff that you wrote is false. You insulted everyone who has ever served their country and provided the greatest sacrifice.
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#36 The-Deer-Hunter
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[QUOTE="The-Deer-Hunter"]By trying to convince a bunch or crazies with guns not to kill themselves?Funkdaddy13
What you just said made you lose all credibility in this thread...

That's what they are doing over there in the Iraq situation. Explain to me how they are serving their country? I just regained my credibility. What is this a videogame now?

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#37 chrisrooR
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1) You don't have to join 2) Big deal... It's war. People die. I don't see people whining about Darfur... 3) I'd rather not have some 18 year old moron driving 4) Dur... I don't expect them to recruit from the retirement home 5) That's war... Don't like it, don't join 6) He had the option to not join 7) Duh... It's the military, not the yacht club 8) Yeah... People join the military for the fame... :roll: 9) ??? 10) Yeah, easy for you to say that when millions of people have died to save your ***... :? (not just in Iraq)Funkdaddy13

1) He's talking about the army in general. Conscription isn't a choice.

2) are you joking? http://www.savedarfur.org/content?splash=yes

The conflict in Darfur is a Global Issue.

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#38 The-Deer-Hunter
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I take great offense to your post and letting you know that I am reporting you to the Mods. I have serverd for 4 years and just re-enlisted and can tell you that most of the stuff that you wrote is false. You insulted everyone who has ever served their country and provided the greatest sacrifice. jlt21
Do you mind explaining to me why it is false?
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#39 chrisrooR
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[QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="The-Deer-Hunter"]By trying to convince a bunch or crazies with guns not to kill themselves?The-Deer-Hunter
What you just said made you lose all credibility in this thread...

That's what they are doing over there in the Iraq situation. Explain to me how they are serving their country? I just regained my credibility. What is this a videogame now?

once someone has said you've lost it, you've lost it.

/thread

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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That's what they are doing over there in the Iraq situation. Explain to me how they are serving their country? I just regained my credibility. What is this a videogame now?

The-Deer-Hunter

Serving the country...joining the military to do the job they contracted to do so others can sit at home and complain about them.

I didn't fine any credibility in your initial post.

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#41 YeahYes
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I take great offense to your post and letting you know that I am reporting you to the Mods. I have serverd for 4 years and just re-enlisted and can tell you that most of the stuff that you wrote is false. You insulted everyone who has ever served their country and provided the greatest sacrifice. jlt21

Don't kid yourself, there hasn't been a war worth fighting since WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Iraq are all illegal wars anyway, and I'm sorry for the people who aren't evil and joined the military and serve now that their government treats them so badly.

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#42 X360PS3AMD05
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11. You're fighting corporate wars.
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#43 The-Deer-Hunter
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[QUOTE="jlt21"]I take great offense to your post and letting you know that I am reporting you to the Mods. I have serverd for 4 years and just re-enlisted and can tell you that most of the stuff that you wrote is false. You insulted everyone who has ever served their country and provided the greatest sacrifice. YeahYes

I am with YeahYes all the way.

Don't kid yourself, there hasn't been a war worth fighting since WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Iraq are all illegal wars anyway, and I'm sorry for the people who aren't evil and joined the military and serve now that their government treats them so badly.

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#44 X360PS3AMD05
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Oh the irony, they report you because they don't want to speak out. Isn't that the supposed reason why they go to these "wars" so you can have the "Freedom" to do so........
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#45 UnknownSniper65
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technicially Gamespot doesn't have freedom of speech...when you signed up for your account you agreed to let the mods deem what is appropriate and what isn't.

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#46 The-Deer-Hunter
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technicially Gamespot doesn't have freedom of speech...when you signed up for your account you agreed to let the mods deem what is appropriate and what isn't.

UnknownSniper65

It's like being a soldier.

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#47 MeanQuestion
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Pride can't be an illusion--it's self-affirming. /dawkined
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#48 jlt21
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This is why you DONT join the military. Among the benefits that people claim it has the side effects are not worth it unless your planning on being a military secratary.

1. You get shot and die

2. You have to live your whole life knowing you killed a man/men or in some cases a women or child

3. You can die in Iraq but cant have a drink until your 21

4. The military targets boys not men

5. You have to leave your wife/children and home

6. You have to put up with your friends being killed

7. You have to live in cruddy conditions and follow orders

8. You are not really fighting for your country (nowadays anyway)

9. It will stay with you your whole life

10. You have the illusion of pride

These are my opinions and I do not mean to offend anyone.

The-Deer-Hunter

1)Not everyone gets shot and dies, first of all most people never get hurt, second most people don't get shot, third, most people that do get shot live, four most people get blown up, five most people survive being blown up...multiple times.

2)Not everyone kills someone, in fact most people don't. And for those that do, I promise, it is not a hard thing to live with when they are shooting at you. And collateral damage is a part of war.

3)Yea that sucks you can't go out to a bar and drink. But guess what, most guys still drink. And to top it off, you can't drink overseas, so it's not like people over 21 can drink while at war and those under can't. And joining the military or not doesn't change the fact that you can't drink till your 21.

4)Umm, no, the military definatly targets men, you have to be 18 to join, if you can vote, you are a man, a young man, but a man none the less. 17 with parental consent, but you can't be sent overseas at 17.

5)Yea, and then you come back and they are there. And most people aren't married in the military.

6)Most people don't. Refer to 1

7)Umm, I have never lived in cruddy conditions, so I don't know where you are getting your information. Also, you are doing a job, you have bosses, you do what your bosses say or you get fired. And yes you can get fired in the military.

8)No I am pretty sure that I am fighting for America. Please do not forget that we ARE fighting the war against terrorism, the same terrorism that attacked the US on 9/11, which I just happened to eyewitness first hand, not on TV.

9)Yea, do you know how many companies hire people because of their military experience.

10)No, I def have pride in what I do, what I stand for, and what I fight for.

Oh and saying I do not mean to offend anyone doesn't mean that it isn't offensive. It isn't this get out of jail free card letting you say whatever you want.

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#49 cool_baller
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Seems good. But if we were fighting against someone like Hitler I would go.
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#50 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

technicially Gamespot doesn't have freedom of speech...when you signed up for your account you agreed to let the mods deem what is appropriate and what isn't.

The-Deer-Hunter

It's like being a soldier.

No, its like every other job in this world...if you say something offensive you will get fired or written up