Why all the hate for the Wii

^ not everyone agrees with that. Actually, that's a perfect example of why some don't like the system.

stizz-

^ too true, that's why I said it wasn't a terrible system in my first reply. The system has some great games, but people don't like it overall because it doesn't have all that much to offer. If you don't happen to like those few really greatt games (and these people do exist, not everyone on the planet loves mario) then the system has even less for you. Those that prefer other systems because of this don't actually "hate" the Wii, it just isn't their favorite system.

oh, and meetroid... you're a smart person so I know you know what I meant. I'm going to assume you're just giving me a hard time.

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^ not everyone agrees with that. Actually, that's a perfect example of why some don't like the system.

Freeze-dried

SO I have had a wii, xbox 360, and a Ps3 and I really love the Wii I like sitting down playingsome mario. Do graphics really matter? I love nintendo and I hope the Wii U is very good! What do you guys think of the wii and all the hate

[QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"][QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"] i agree with you.graphics are never everything and though Nintendo's a little behind in that department, they still make best-sellers and classics that are neccessary for any gamer's library.locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"] quite frankly,360 and PS3 fans are hating becuase the Wii ( and DS) sold more than it's competitors though it lacked a lot of the "cutting edge" technology that Microsoft and Sony expected to win the "sales race" with.Armored_Pillow

[QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"] Nintendo failed at trying to develop shooters like 360 and PS3 wiifan001

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"] Nintendo failed at trying to develop shooters like 360 and PS3 Armored_Pillow

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"] Nintendo failed at trying to develop shooters like 360 and PS3 Armored_Pillow

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"] Really? That happened when?wiifan001

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"] Really? That happened when?wiifan001

[QUOTE="wiifan001"] When did Nintendo ever try to develop a First Person Shooter?josephl64

Nintendo never really attempted FPSs, unless you look at Goldeneye007 on the N64, wasn't developed by Nintendo, but by their back-then best friend Rare. Goldeneye007 was a hit as we know. Then we have Metroid Prime 1 & 2, again not developed by Nintendo, but by a current first-party developer of theirs, Retro Studios. Although they're not really FPSs in terms of how the games play, they use the first-person view. Again, two brilliant, brilliant games. Anyone else agree that Echoes is simply one of the most immersive games ever? I freaked when I first entered the dark world and realised I had to create light bubbles to stay alive.Freeze-dried

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"] it happened as soon as i looked up sales for WaW,MW,MW2,MW3,Black Ops,MoH,and countless other shooting games and couldn't even find a single sales figure for the Wii without doing extensive research.Sure they made the games and sure Activision and EA benefitted from the little extra cash the Wii pulled in but Nintendo rarely gets mentioned for shooting games that sold more on the xbox and PS3.and that is,in fact, a fact,no matterhow much i dislike it.

josephl64

`why the hate for wii? idk ask the gamestop reviewers..

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"] quite frankly,360 and PS3 fans are hating becuase the Wii ( and DS) sold more than it's competitors though it lacked a lot of the "cutting edge" technology that Microsoft and Sony expected to win the "sales race" with.Armored_Pillow

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"] Really? That happened when?zenszulu

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"] Really? That happened when?wiifan001

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"] it happened as soon as i looked up sales for WaW,MW,MW2,MW3,Black Ops,MoH,and countless other shooting games and couldn't even find a single sales figure for the Wii without doing extensive research.Sure they made the games and sure Activision and EA benefitted from the little extra cash the Wii pulled in but Nintendo rarely gets mentioned for shooting games that sold more on the xbox and PS3.and that is,in fact, a fact,no matterhow much i dislike it.

josephl64

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"] it happened as soon as i looked up sales for WaW,MW,MW2,MW3,Black Ops,MoH,and countless other shooting games and couldn't even find a single sales figure for the Wii without doing extensive research.Sure they made the games and sure Activision and EA benefitted from the little extra cash the Wii pulled in but Nintendo rarely gets mentioned for shooting games that sold more on the xbox and PS3.and that is,in fact, a fact,no matterhow much i dislike it.

[QUOTE="josephl64"][QUOTE="wiifan001"] When did Nintendo ever try to develop a First Person Shooter?wiifan001

Nintendo never really attempted FPSs, unless you look at Goldeneye007 on the N64, wasn't developed by Nintendo, but by their back-then best friend Rare. Goldeneye007 was a hit as we know. Then we have Metroid Prime 1 & 2, again not developed by Nintendo, but by a current first-party developer of theirs, Retro Studios. Although they're not really FPSs in terms of how the games play, they use the first-person view. Again, two brilliant, brilliant games. Anyone else agree that Echoes is simply one of the most immersive games ever? I freaked when I first entered the dark world and realised I had to create light bubbles to stay alive.Freeze-dried

[QUOTE="Freeze-dried"]Nintendo never really attempted FPSs, unless you look at Goldeneye007 on the N64, wasn't developed by Nintendo, but by their back-then best friend Rare. Goldeneye007 was a hit as we know. Then we have Metroid Prime 1 & 2, again not developed by Nintendo, but by a current first-party developer of theirs, Retro Studios. Although they're not really FPSs in terms of how the games play, they use the first-person view. Again, two brilliant, brilliant games. Anyone else agree that Echoes is simply one of the most immersive games ever? I freaked when I first entered the dark world and realised I had to create light bubbles to stay alive.meetroid8

[QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Really...? Sales talk? Still? locopatho

@locopath:wait wait wait.where did you get the idea that i prefered CoD to Mario galaxy?or that i prefered anything in the first place?i said 360 and PS3 players are HATING because such a simple machine (nowadays) is still able to compete with thier "top-of-the-line" technology and "superior" playability.that has absolutely nothing to do with me.oh and if Wii sold more than 360 and PS3, obviously SOMEBODY prefers Wii over the others.think about it.

you know what?forget what i said :] any questions?Armored_Pillow

Nope.

I am merely making a point that Nintendo never tried to develop first person shooters, therefore they could never have failed to do so. If you want to include Duck Hunt, well, 28 million says something.

yeah i don't mean failed at developing. i meant failed at making thier version of CoD games as popular as the xbox and PS3 versions.Armored_Pillow

Ok then, I see that's been established.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Armored_Pillow"] yeah really,sales talk.even without Nintendo, PS3 and Xbox is still failing to beat EACH OTHER with their "better technologies" and "better versions of the same game".it doesn't have to be sales.Nintendo has more fans too...Americans just like rooting for the "under dog" if I should say so.Armored_Pillow

IMO, the Wii's greatest strengths are its exclusive IPs and its versatility. The downsides are that it's non-HD and it lacks an impressive third-party lineup.

Makes no difference to me if the Wii sold 10 copies, 10,000 copies or 10,000 million copies, locopatho

dont start lying now.. popularity matters because all your friends will have it and eveyone will talk about it..

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Makes no difference to me if the Wii sold 10 copies, 10,000 copies or 10,000 million copies, KBFloYd

dont start lying now.. popularity matters because all your friends will have it and eveyone will talk about it..

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Makes no difference to me if the Wii sold 10 copies, 10,000 copies or 10,000 million copies, locopatho

dont start lying now.. popularity matters because all your friends will have it and eveyone will talk about it..

so it makes a difference for HD console but not for the wii? contradict much?

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dont start lying now.. popularity matters because all your friends will have it and eveyone will talk about it..

KBFloYd

so it makes a difference for HD console but not for the wii? contradict much?

I have all three current generation consoles. But the Wii is not a bad console. (it is akin to the original Xbox)

Just Nintendo has really slacked off by allowing the 3rd parties dump so many bad games on this console. The last great game for Wii is The legend of Zelda skyward Sword. November 20th 2011. Which could end up being Nintnedo's last game for Wii. The Wii U could actually launch in November 2012 which could mean exactly 1 whole year without any games for Wii.

Just one last year of 3rd Party dump a thon of sholved ware junk games.

The Wii is Nintendo's best selling console, But it has the most lopsided ratio of great Games to poor crap shovelware quick cash in junk games.

The console has fallen into the lack of 3rd party support. I am not sure Wii U will do better in this area.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] That matters on a console with online and such. Most of my friends have 360 so I get COD for that console for that reason. Makes 0 difference on Wii.meetroid8

so it makes a difference for HD console but not for the wii? contradict much?

wii doesnt have online? thats news to me.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] That matters on a console with online and such. Most of my friends have 360 so I get COD for that console for that reason. Makes 0 difference on Wii.meetroid8

so it makes a difference for HD console but not for the wii? contradict much?

Ok i supported the Wii idea back in 2006 adamantly and i STILL do. this is the thing at the time in 2006 ALOT of frnachises where being drastically NERFED, that is dumbed down to a idiotic denominator, simplified and butchered beyond their original epic scope, now anythign epic is actually quite mundane and lacking in any true imagination.The Wii offered a way out a way for canny developers to showcase ideas rather than simple graphical innovation, to estew gameplay rather than eye candy.The Wii failed, not because it was underpowered but because WE the gamers and the none gamers did NOT buy into IDEAs, anythign that had promise on the WII did not sell, forcing publishers not to support new ideas, and when they did they were not fully realised Nor did they sell.The gamers let down the Wii, so the developers let down the Wii.In my opinion even Nintendo have let down the Wii, Myomoto's own doubts about Skyward Sword prove that, they didn't really believe in their own House's ability to make good games for their OWN hardware? that is like releasing soemthing to fail.We don't Hate the Wii we hate what We've ultimately made the Wii.I persoanlly bought and tried every single game that tried soemthign different, and yes while the majority got it wrong, they never got a second chance to correct their error's instead being dissolved or made bankrupt due to the financial climate of the world. It's taken Nintendo themselves many years to squeeze and ascertain what works with motion and even previous ideas could still very well work given the correct talent, but i'm afraid we won't get to see this to fruition.The Wii-U will undoo everything the Wii tried to promote, a new level of interaction and immersion, sophistication and gameplay evelution.Instead we'll get the same crap with touch screen controls.Gaming died in the mid 90's for me, very few games have the heart and soul of that era, even the greats like Ocarina of Time, uncharted 2, Metal gear solid, aren't quite as brillliant as the 9's and 10's we try to bestow unpon them.No, gaming is gettign worse, contrary to many saying it's improving, we have certainly lost our way and the Wii's failure is a damn shame as neither Sony nor Microsoft want the ££$$ formula overtake the creative aspect of gaming.

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so it makes a difference for HD console but not for the wii? contradict much?

KBFloYd

wii doesnt have online? thats news to me.

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[QUOTE="meetroid8"] It makes a difference for a console with a focus on online as opposed to one without. meetroid8

wii doesnt have online? thats news to me.

Among people I know, the Wii is hated because it is considered inferior to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Honestly, the 360's 2011 lineup is comparable to the ENTIRE Wii library. That is just embarrassing if you think about it.

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[QUOTE="meetroid8"] It makes a difference for a console with a focus on online as opposed to one without. meetroid8

wii doesnt have online? thats news to me.

i know psn is better but doesnt negate the fact that wii has online.

but

ok go for it...

whats so much better about psn?

[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

wii doesnt have online? thats news to me.

KBFloYd

i know psn is better but doesnt negate the fact that wii has online.

but

ok go for it...

whats so much better about psn?

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[QUOTE="meetroid8"] Would you like to compare Nintendo Wifi to Live or PSN? Because we could do that you know. :Pmeetroid8

i know psn is better but doesnt negate the fact that wii has online.

but

ok go for it...

whats so much better about psn?

well, i will be always on nintendo sides, the nintendo games are much more fun than others consoles and dont mess up our children minds, making nintendo wii a better choice for families or alone people who likes to pass hours having fun with link, mario, DK and others. the others consoles just work for the people who likes to kill others people and cant do this in reality, more and more games are appeling to violence and let it go of all the magig of video-games.

thats my opinion, and everybody has one, so be quiet!

Among people I know, the Wii is hated because it is considered inferior to the Xbox 360 and PS3. Honestly, the 360's 2011 lineup is comparable to the ENTIRE Wii library. That is just embarrassing if you think about it.

metswonin69

Friend codes automatically make Nintendo Wifi worse than everything else. Lack of voice chat for most games, no trophies/achievements, lack of downloadable retail games. And most importantly, there are more and better games to play online on PSN than there are to play on Nintendo Wifi. meetroid8

friend codes? yea i guess if you have more than 5 friends it a hassle...but if you only have 2 or no friends then who cares..

voice chat? meh...fun for the first week then it just becomes a way to annoy people or talk trash or show off how you can chat and beat people at the same time...overrated.

trophie/achievements? what does this have to do with online? this is an offline perk.

downloadable reatail games? i prefer a real disc ..like many others...nice to have but meh

yes psn has more games to play online but that doesnt negate the fact that wii has many online games too.

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lack of messaging the person your playing with..is my biggest complaint with the wii