New info on The Grinder

http://wii.ign.com/articles/106/1066623p1.html

Posted this in SW. Here its just a topic on new info for the existing Wii version.

Here are some cookie cutter generic stereotypical video game characters:

Here are some neat looking takes on existing monsters:

And here is a teaser:

http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14352829/the-grinder/videos/grinder_trl_teaser_20410.html

Sorry there is not much in real screens or real in game videos.

Whoa... :|

OK- the major facts I really caught:

1. NO LONGER WII EXCLUSIVE- The Grinder is now coming to the 360, PS3, and PC.:| How these versions will differ from the Wii version will be shown at GDC.
2. Release date apparently set for Halloween... 2011... :| Obviously the shift to multi-plat has really slowed the Grinder's development down a bit (Most of us were expecting it 2010 I do believe).
3. They consider the Conduit the 'go-to' FPS on the Wii despite relatively middling sales... :| (Sales wise- haven't both COD 5 and MW: reflex beaten it already?)

Other than that- this interview has basically no real new info whatsoever gameplay wise as far as I could see. They talk about a few graphical improvements as well- but not much else. The shift to multi-platform is the only real big news here.

Thing is- the purpose of the Grinder was to make a L4D type game on the Wii... Now they are trying to DIRECTLY compete with the L4D series.

In short- I don't see this decision going too well for them... :| Sure- they'll have a console-number advantage on the L4D series- but that series is much better known than HVS is known in general... :|

I was excited for this game until they made it multiplat.

They looked at their wallets.

BTW this is really going outside the scope of this forum, I just wanted to post that little tidbit and keep the multiplat news for SW.

I was excited for this game until they made it multiplat.

LegatoSkyheart

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I was excited for this game until they made it multiplat.

JordanElek

[QUOTE="JordanElek"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I was excited for this game until they made it multiplat.

Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I was excited for this game until they made it multiplat.

Wii version will use motion plus for sword/weapons and the IR cursor for shooting, neither PS3 or the 360 have anythingthat andNatal and Arccertainly won't offer anything likethat.

[QUOTE="JordanElek"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I was excited for this game until they made it multiplat.

thedude-

Since it started as a Wii game, I don't think it'll be much different as a multiplat than it would've been as a Wii exclusive, especially given the pushed back release date.

But who knows. I just don't see the multiplat thing affecting the final product very much.

Wait wait wait

So a developer that has not created a good game yet but says it LOVES THE WII is going to show that love by spreading itself thinner with multiplats and somehow deliever on the Wii?

I think High Voltage is now showing it's colors, it talked a good game trying to hook Wii owners and the second they see some scratch they're off to greener pastures.

There is no reason for anyone with a Wii to support them now, all you're doing is helping them leave the Wii faster

[QUOTE="thedude-"][QUOTE="JordanElek"] What makes it any different now?

Since it started as a Wii game, I don't think it'll be much different as a multiplat than it would've been as a Wii exclusive, especially given the pushed back release date.

But who knows. I just don't see the multiplat thing affecting the final product very much.

I am not saying that it will be worse of a game being multiplat, I am saying it usually is with other games. Being that HVS is a small dev team that have not proven much this could be even more true for them. They have to worry about a lot more than the control scheme (which I could talk paragraphs about). They have to worry about the AI being at least challenging, making it a real multiplayer experience where you have to work together, making the graphics good artisitcally and technically all in one package, keeping the framerate smooth, and making sure its not like The Conduit where you just go down from corridor to corridor all game (variations and surprise).thedude-

Wait wait wait

So a developer that has not created a good game yet but says it LOVES THE WII is going to show that love by spreading itself thinner with multiplats and somehow deliever on the Wii?

I think High Voltage is now showing it's colors, it talked a good game trying to hook Wii owners and the second they see some scratch they're off to greener pastures.

There is no reason for anyone with a Wii to support them now, all you're doing is helping them leave the Wii faster

Jaysonguy

High Voltage Software never ceases to dissapoint...

Unbelievable

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Wait wait wait

So a developer that has not created a good game yet but says it LOVES THE WII is going to show that love by spreading itself thinner with multiplats and somehow deliever on the Wii?

I think High Voltage is now showing it's colors, it talked a good game trying to hook Wii owners and the second they see some scratch they're off to greener pastures.

There is no reason for anyone with a Wii to support them now, all you're doing is helping them leave the Wii faster

bob_newman

[QUOTE="thedude-"]I am not saying that it will be worse of a game being multiplat, I am saying it usually is with other games. Being that HVS is a small dev team that have not proven much this could be even more true for them. They have to worry about a lot more than the control scheme (which I could talk paragraphs about). They have to worry about the AI being at least challenging, making it a real multiplayer experience where you have to work together, making the graphics good artisitcally and technically all in one package, keeping the framerate smooth, and making sure its not like The Conduit where you just go down from corridor to corridor all game (variations and surprise).JordanElek

If they are not capable of that stuff in the first place, then they are even less capable of managing the same level of quality with other systems to worry about. Whatever expectations you had for the game before, may have to be turned down (the history of most games gone multiplat esp. on Wii serve as an example). To clarify, you expect not much change from an exclusive development to a multiplat development because you do not think they will do much in the first place, but whatever they were going to do in the first place has changed to an all encompassing matter.

There is so much to the little aspects of each system's strengths and weaknesses, even HVS tapped some of those with The Conduit on Wii.

What the.....freak :x

But .. HVS is all about bringing THOSE kind of experiences to Wii only owners. What happened? Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]But .. HVS is all about bringing THOSE kind of experiences to Wii only owners. What happened? Sepewrath

I don't really think SEGA had an influence on HVS, but who knows really. And I agree, theres no point in placing it on all those platforms, because you'll be able to find better titles anyway.Haziqonfire

Most likley will get the PC version now IF its good, and IF the wii version is different enough from the HD versions then MAYBE ill rent it.

I don't really think SEGA had an influence on HVS, but who knows really. And I agree, theres no point in placing it on all those platforms, because you'll be able to find better titles anyway.Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I don't really think SEGA had an influence on HVS, but who knows really. And I agree, theres no point in placing it on all those platforms, because you'll be able to find better titles anyway.thedude-

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I don't really think SEGA had an influence on HVS, but who knows really. And I agree, theres no point in placing it on all those platforms, because you'll be able to find better titles anyway.Sepewrath

[QUOTE="thedude-"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I don't really think SEGA had an influence on HVS, but who knows really. And I agree, theres no point in placing it on all those platforms, because you'll be able to find better titles anyway.Haziqonfire

wasn't sega the one who said "the conduit is a huge success, sales-wise"?BrunoBRS

wasn't sega the one who said "the conduit is a huge success, sales-wise"?BrunoBRS

Also no one can fault them for increasing revenues. Its not like they are "betraying" Wii fans. The Conduit recieved moderate success. Its not like they made it big on Wii and now have all this fame so they are going to the next best thing. It is for entirely different reasons.thedude-

The Conduit recieved moderate success.thedude-

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] wasn't sega the one who said "the conduit is a huge success, sales-wise"?wiifan001

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] wasn't sega the one who said "the conduit is a huge success, sales-wise"?Sepewrath

Also no one can fault them for increasing revenues. Its not like they are "betraying" Wii fans. The Conduit recieved moderate success. Its not like they made it big on Wii and now have all this fame so they are going to the next best thing. It is for entirely different reasons.thedude-

Well, so much for a great Wii FPS, because it looks like it will be crap compared to the other versions.

Looks like I will be getting PC version.

Screw you HVS, where is my great Wii exclusive FPS that you have still FAILED to deliver?

Why are you UNNECESSARILY pushing the date back more that a year, why the other consoles which already have enough FPS?

Wait wait wait

So a developer that has not created a good game yet but says it LOVES THE WII is going to show that love by spreading itself thinner with multiplats and somehow deliever on the Wii?

I think High Voltage is now showing it's colors, it talked a good game trying to hook Wii owners and the second they see some scratch they're off to greener pastures.

There is no reason for anyone with a Wii to support them now, all you're doing is helping them leave the Wii faster

Jaysonguy

Well, so much for a great Wii FPS, because it looks like it will be crap compared to the other versions.

Looks like I will be getting PC version.

Screw you HVS, where is my great Wii exclusive FPS that you have still FAILED to deliver?

Why are you UNNECESSARILY pushing the date back more that a year, why the other consoles which already have enough FPS?

snover2009

Wow. I was actually interested in this game. Why couldn't gladiator ad or the conduit be multiplat.

It seems like a fatal idea. Having this game go multiplat will prob bring less sales than if they had just stuck to the wii. From this move I can't see anyone with any system having too much desire for it anymore. I can't imagineanyone (especially one ofmy friends) with an xbox being excited for this anyway. It went from a game I couldahad fun co-oping with some friends into me having to go over there to play the new l4d. Like someone said earlier, this shouldn't have any effect on me personally as a wii owner, it's still the same game as it would have been. But I can't help losing all interest now.

I'll never forget what my art teacher once told us....

"If you make crap to start off with, all you'll be doing is making crap in high resolution."

Conduit was alright, but I'm skeptical about this game. Didn't they say awhile ago that their efforts would be directed towards the HD consoles from now on? It doesn't really surprise me.