Most underrated launch ever?

So what's up with the lukewarm reception from reviewers? My experience with some of the games in question tells me that they've been underrated to an embarassing degree (Gamespot's review of Steel Diver is an obvious example). Is it the fact that reviewers have only had the 3DS for a week and had to rush through a dozen games to get their reviews done? Did the pressure affect their perceptions, making the games less enjoyable than if they had taken their time to savor the experience?

It's telling that this is one of the strongest launch line-ups in recent memory but has received some of the lowest scores.

I agree with you, Rayman 3D has been phenomenal, and I want to buy Samurai Warriors: Chronicles based on fellow gamers responses. The reviewers this time round have been almost useless. I also feel as if SSFIV is better on the 3DS even though it got lower scores than the console version for no decent reason.

The reviewers this time round have been almost useless.

CrazyOldDave

O.K., so I'm not the only one who feels this way, because there's little relation between what the reviewer's told me to expect and my actual experience.

And definitely get Samurai Warriors Chronicles. It's my favorite launch title.

[QUOTE="CrazyOldDave"]

The reviewers this time round have been almost useless.

dzimm

O.K., so I'm not the only one who feels this way, because there's little relation between what the reviewer's told me to expect and my actual experience.

And definitely get Samurai Warriors Chronicles. It's my favorite launch title.

That's the way I would put it as well. The games I have played so far have made me feel overwhelmed with fun and joy. I have even forgot I have consoles and PC games. The critics on the other hand are being far too critical, maybe they thought they were playing on a powerhouse PC where most of the games look really good because if so they are wrong.

I completely agree, I was shocked when I saw a 4.5 for steel diver. Ive really enjoyed what I have played of it. It seems like they lowered the review because it isn't a fast paced game, must be the short attention span. And the fact that SSF4 is really the only game getting generally positive reviews shows the underatted launch.

I don't know about it being the most underated launch ever but I definitely think it's underated. Quite a few of the games look good to me.

Launch titles are luke warm. Nothing special.gokuofheaven

I disagree, as much as I want to get the 3ds nothing appeals to me in the slightest. I wish SC hadn't been so rushed. I would have got it just to play Pokemon HG/ Black on but the BC is dreadful.BigBoss255

Pretty much every game on the launch line-up was either rushed or re-hashed. There's not a lot of meat to this launch, pure and simple. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened with a system.

well pilotwings seems quite short, despite being my game of choice (if i were to get one). street fighter is almost 3 (4?) years old. ghost recon actually sounds like a lot of fun, but it's not a game that showcases the 3D well. samurai warriors is samurai warriors and steel diver seems like a like it or hate it game. there are some other games, but commenting on them wouldn't bring anything to the discussion. so while gamespot does sound pretty harsh, the lineup isn't anything to brag about either.BrunoBRS

This lineup is just pretty bad overall.

This lineup is just pretty bad overall.

metswonin69

That's the thing, it's not. The only fair criticism is that some of the games are arguably light on content, but that doesn't make them bad. Frankly, I don't think length figures prominently into a reasonable evaluation of the quality of a game. I've played great games that are short and lousy games that are long, so length, in my opinion, doesn't affect nor is it an indicator of quality.

So despite the "lack of content" in some, I feel the majority of the launch titles are well-designed and fun games that any gamer will enjoy playing.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]well pilotwings seems quite short, despite being my game of choice (if i were to get one). street fighter is almost 3 (4?) years old. ghost recon actually sounds like a lot of fun, but it's not a game that showcases the 3D well. samurai warriors is samurai warriors and steel diver seems like a like it or hate it game. there are some other games, but commenting on them wouldn't bring anything to the discussion. so while gamespot does sound pretty harsh, the lineup isn't anything to brag about either.AutoPilotOn

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]well pilotwings seems quite short, despite being my game of choice (if i were to get one). street fighter is almost 3 (4?) years old. ghost recon actually sounds like a lot of fun, but it's not a game that showcases the 3D well. samurai warriors is samurai warriors and steel diver seems like a like it or hate it game. there are some other games, but commenting on them wouldn't bring anything to the discussion. so while gamespot does sound pretty harsh, the lineup isn't anything to brag about either.AutoPilotOn

also the orginal SF4 came out in 09 so at the most it would be 2 years. It's still hands down the best thing the 3DS has right now.

I feel it is a horrible launch though. SF4 and ghost recon excluded most of the games are awful and the ones that are actually decent dont provide a good value for the money your paying. I ended up getting a few DS games and no 3DS games. My first 3DS game will most likely be DOA demensions.

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]well pilotwings seems quite short, despite being my game of choice (if i were to get one). street fighter is almost 3 (4?) years old. ghost recon actually sounds like a lot of fun, but it's not a game that showcases the 3D well. samurai warriors is samurai warriors and steel diver seems like a like it or hate it game. there are some other games, but commenting on them wouldn't bring anything to the discussion. so while gamespot does sound pretty harsh, the lineup isn't anything to brag about either.BrunoBRS

well SSF4 only was $40 when it first came out so i dont know where the $60 disc thing is coming from. Overall though SSF4 was worth it because it added so much new content over SF4. 10 new characters is a lot. Some games barley have over 10 characters (e.g BlazBlue) on top of that you had more stages , more modes and basically just more everything. It was worth the money and the prcie dropped fast so most people got it for much less.

SF4 and ghost recon excluded most of the games are awful...Gen007

And I would also exclude Steel Diver, Pilotwings Resort, Samurai Warrior Chronicles, Nintendogs + Cats, and Madden NFL. Say what you want about them but they're far from awful. On the contrary, they're all well-made games that offer good value for the money (provided you're not trying to rush through them as quickly as possible to meet a review deadline).

Honestly, you're not doing much to dispel the notion that the launch line-up is underrated. :P

Nintendogs + Cats are barely "games", and they make up nearly a fifth of the launch lineup. Anyone who argues that the 3DS has a strong lineup on Day 1 is deluded, or at least just very easy to please. Which is fine, I guess.

If any launch game is getting underrated, it's probably Rayman 2, which is an excellent, if dated platformer. It's very smart of them to release Rayman, as Nintendo made the crazy (imo) decision to not release ANY Mario games at launch. Mario Kart DS came out over 6 years ago, and we can't get a 3DS version at launch? No Mario Sunshine remake? Really?

aside from nintendogs 7.5 ghost recon and ssfiv i agree , 3ds has been under rated maybe cause gamespot is being paid by sony , to make sure 3ds fails at launch which is impossible lol nice try though gamespot

[QUOTE="gokuofheaven"]Launch titles are luke warm. Nothing special.AutoPilotOn

Yea for real, other than one game or so every systems launch has been similar in that it had the same quality of games or lack their of. I dont know where these reviewers got the notion that other launches were that much better, youd think most would be expecting it since it wont be a while until the devs get comfortable with the hardware anyway and thats per usual for all of them. I didnt get any game for mine but thats mainly due to lack of funds but i pretty much expected it to be like that, still though im still really enjoying what the system has to offer and what i can do with it at the moment.

This lineup is just pretty bad overall.

metswonin69

[QUOTE="Gen007"]SF4 and ghost recon excluded most of the games are awful...dzimm

And I would also exclude Steel Diver, Pilotwings Resort, Samurai Warrior Chronicles, Nintendogs + Cats, and Madden NFL. Say what you want about them but they're far from awful. On the contrary, they're all well-made games that offer good value for the money (provided you're not trying to rush through them as quickly as possible to meet a review deadline).

Honestly, you're not doing much to dispel the notion that the launch line-up is underrated. :P

Looks like your going through something called denial. It happens when you drop a lot of money on a system/game and you're trying to reasure yourself that it was a good buy, even if the games are horrible.

The launch titles are full of 40$ ports,rehashes, and games that can be finished in 2 hours. To think this lineup as a whole is better then mediocre is dilusional.

^ well i was just estimating prices, seeing as discs over here cost double the price. and when 70% of the characters are clones, i don't really see it as a good thing over a game that has 14 absurdly different characters (e.g. BlazBlue). hell, look at MvC3, the roster is rather large and there aren't really "clones". except for X-23, but she's a different kind of clone :PBrunoBRS

How are 70% clones? Even Ryu and Ken play differently due to their attacks having different properties. I have no idea how anyone could consider any of the other characters clones.

I think atm, the problem is the lack of groundbreaking games. Once we see some mainstream titles with good storylines and the like, I'm sure people will like the 3DS a lot more, and it will sell better.

Personally, totally on the fence on whether to buy one or not. x_x

Anyone who argues that the 3DS has a strong lineup on Day 1 is deluded, or at least just very easy to please.

ItsEvolution

Alternatively anyone who argues otherwise is bitter and cynical and nearly impossible to please.

Three words: Lack of content. A bunch of the games are FUN and GREAT, but have next to no content i.e. Pilot Wings (one island; easy to blow through it fast) is not worth $40.

Also: no online support (Ridge Racer, PES, Samurai Warriors, Ghost Recon, etc)

I wish Pilot Wings had multiple areas and co-op, and Ridge Racer had online, then it's be a GREAT launch for me. Samurai Warriors is getting online soon, so that's good.

[QUOTE="dzimm"][QUOTE="Gen007"]SF4 and ghost recon excluded most of the games are awful...MonkeyPulp

And I would also exclude Steel Diver, Pilotwings Resort, Samurai Warrior Chronicles, Nintendogs + Cats, and Madden NFL. Say what you want about them but they're far from awful. On the contrary, they're all well-made games that offer good value for the money (provided you're not trying to rush through them as quickly as possible to meet a review deadline).

Honestly, you're not doing much to dispel the notion that the launch line-up is underrated. :P

The launch titles are full of 40$ ports,rehashes, and games that can be finished in 2 hours. To think this lineup as a whole is better then mediocre is dilusional.

So I have to be in "denial" to have a different opinion than you? Please, get over yourself. :roll:

Why is my opinion such a threat to you that you feel the need to resort to personal insults? I find your response very curious.

Im completely fine with the launch, Im enjoying SSF4 and steel diver and don't regret buying either of them. I really don't see how steel diver could be scored so low, it may be short but there are plenty of other games that are short that get praised. For what it is, its a great strategy game

I have only played 3 of the launch games. I think Street Fighter was exactly as expected, excellent! I think Ghost Recon is the most underratedand just as great as Street Fighter if you like strategy games. I think Pilot Wings is not worth the money. It is ok but I felt there was no depth to it and that Nintendo should have charged $15 more for the 3DS and gave it for free.

I think the launch is actually pretty good. How many systems have a launch with two games that are great. Looking back at the DS and PSP launches, they were way worse launch titles.

Nintendogs + Cats are barely "games"

ItsEvolution

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]^ well i was just estimating prices, seeing as discs over here cost double the price. and when 70% of the characters are clones, i don't really see it as a good thing over a game that has 14 absurdly different characters (e.g. BlazBlue). hell, look at MvC3, the roster is rather large and there aren't really "clones". except for X-23, but she's a different kind of clone :PGen007

How are 70% clones? Even Ryu and Ken play differently due to their attacks having different properties. I have no idea how anyone could consider any of the other characters clones.

While I like both Pilotwings and Steel Diver both of them have flaws. I can understand there reviews and would perosnally give them 7s each

Nintendogs + Cats are barely "games", and they make up nearly a fifth of the launch lineup. Anyone who argues that the 3DS has a strong lineup on Day 1 is deluded, or at least just very easy to please. Which is fine, I guess.

If any launch game is getting underrated, it's probably Rayman 2, which is an excellent, if dated platformer. It's very smart of them to release Rayman, as Nintendo made the crazy (imo) decision to not release ANY Mario games at launch. Mario Kart DS came out over 6 years ago, and we can't get a 3DS version at launch? No Mario Sunshine remake? Really?

ItsEvolution

So you just want ports of last gen games? THATs what makes a good launch?

[QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]

Nintendogs + Cats are barely "games", and they make up nearly a fifth of the launch lineup. Anyone who argues that the 3DS has a strong lineup on Day 1 is deluded, or at least just very easy to please. Which is fine, I guess.

If any launch game is getting underrated, it's probably Rayman 2, which is an excellent, if dated platformer. It's very smart of them to release Rayman, as Nintendo made the crazy (imo) decision to not release ANY Mario games at launch. Mario Kart DS came out over 6 years ago, and we can't get a 3DS version at launch? No Mario Sunshine remake? Really?

Cruse34

So you just want ports of last gen games? THATs what makes a good launch?

Rayman is amazing on a graphical level.

[QUOTE="Cruse34"]

[QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]

Nintendogs + Cats are barely "games", and they make up nearly a fifth of the launch lineup. Anyone who argues that the 3DS has a strong lineup on Day 1 is deluded, or at least just very easy to please. Which is fine, I guess.

If any launch game is getting underrated, it's probably Rayman 2, which is an excellent, if dated platformer. It's very smart of them to release Rayman, as Nintendo made the crazy (imo) decision to not release ANY Mario games at launch. Mario Kart DS came out over 6 years ago, and we can't get a 3DS version at launch? No Mario Sunshine remake? Really?

ItsEvolution

So you just want ports of last gen games? THATs what makes a good launch?

So I have to be in "denial" to have a different opinion than you? Please, get over yourself. :roll:

Why is my opinion such a threat to you that you feel the need to resort to personal insults? I find your response very curious.dzimm

I usually have no problems with opinions, but I'll explain why I was so hostile.

So what's up with the lukewarm reception from reviewers? My experience with some of the games in question tells me that they've been underrated to an embarassing degree (Gamespot's review of Steel Diver is an obvious example).dzimm

This is an opinion.

But saying things like this...

-Is it the fact that reviewers have only had the 3DS for a week and had to rush through a dozen games to get their reviews done?

-Did the pressure affect their perceptions, making the games less enjoyable than if they had taken their time to savor the experience?

-(provided you're not trying to rush through them as quickly as possible to meet a review deadline).dzimm

....is when I call you delusional. Coming up with reasons as to why the scores(A REVIEWERS OPINION) didnt meet up to your expectations. I find it ironic that you call me out on attacking your opinion when you attacked the opinion/integrity of almost every reviewer.

So what's up with the lukewarm reception from reviewers? My experience with some of the games in question tells me that they've been underrated to an embarassing degree (Gamespot's review of Steel Diver is an obvious example). Is it the fact that reviewers have only had the 3DS for a week and had to rush through a dozen games to get their reviews done? Did the pressure affect their perceptions, making the games less enjoyable than if they had taken their time to savor the experience?

It's telling that this is one of the strongest launch line-ups in recent memory but has received some of the lowest scores.

dzimm

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]I disagree, as much as I want to get the 3ds nothing appeals to me in the slightest. I wish SC hadn't been so rushed. I would have got it just to play Pokemon HG/ Black on but the BC is dreadful.AstralDrmz

While I like both Pilotwings and Steel Diver both of them have flaws. I can understand there reviews and would perosnally give them 7s each

Cruse34

I'm not sure what flaws you're referring to unless you mean the "lack of content"? I don't consider that a flaw because length really has nothing to do with the quality of a game.

I find it ironic that you call me out on attacking your opinion when you attacked the opinion/integrity of almost every reviewer.MonkeyPulp

You didn't attack my opinion, you attacked me personally. And, no, I didn't personally attack any of the reviewers, I simply speculated that in their rush to get reviews posted by launch that they may not have not given each of the games a fair shake.

Underrated means that something is being overlook or under appreciated.Coolyfett

Exactly, and I'm of the opinion that reviewers simply didn't take the time to appreciate the launch titles for what they were. :)

[QUOTE="metswonin69"]

This lineup is just pretty bad overall.

dzimm

That's the thing, it's not. The only fair criticism is that some of the games are arguably light on content, but that doesn't make them bad. Frankly, I don't think length figures prominently into a reasonable evaluation of the quality of a game. I've played great games that are short and lousy games that are long, so length, in my opinion, doesn't affect nor is it an indicator of quality.

So despite the "lack of content" in some, I feel the majority of the launch titles are well-designed and fun games that any gamer will enjoy playing.