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#151 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]Rayman trailerWanderer5

A Thingamaijg.XD That actually looks pretty nice. Another good looking 2D game.:)

I wish Sonic the Hedgehog 4 looked that good.  

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#152 Not-A-Stalker
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I've seen nothing but hate for MGS Rising. Am I the only one who thinks it looks totally badass? People are crying because there's no stealth in sight but dude... You're playing as Raiden. Did you see Raiden in MGS4? No sneaking, the dude brings mayhem wherever he goes. I'll welcome a change of genres with open arms. I'm sure we can still expect an amazing story. Any word on when it's placed? I'm hoping between 2 and 4?

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#153 jg4xchamp
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well I can't hope for much from Raiden as a character (his whole "boo hoo I'm a lonely cyborg" thing in MGS4 felt totally contrived), and I can't expect from the story that's really insightful interesting in the MGS universe.

gameplay wise it might not be a typical hack and slash, and the slow mo cutting might just be a special event, where normal slicing through mooks in real time is the majority. we don't know much about boss characters, elite mooks, and what kind of combat they involve.

but think of how damn unique rising would be if it didn't follow video game slash rules. every cut you make on an unarmored target is a kill. ninja gaiden doesn't do that, nor does DMC, GOW, bayonetta, etc. they all just have invisible hitpoints that deplete before the enemy gibs in a predetermined way. (hell, LIGHTSABERS don't even cut through anything until the all powerful hitpoint gods say so :roll: )

therefore the focus of combat might be movement, evasion, waiting for the right time to strike, and once you strike, you have won. instead of hack hack hack for each enemy just to kill them.

if raiden is very vulnerable to ranged enemy weapons, that's a whole different dynamic than what we would expect. 

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It wouldn't be unique Afro Samurai had it first :?

On top of that it doesn't exactly look all that exciting. I'm missing the "wow factor" everyone is getting from it. The slahses look nice and clean, and there should be some glorious blood. The thing is it looks so shallow in comparrison to anything in the rest of the genre, and in terms of animations holy crap did that look lame.

Bayonetta is basically a slut, but her movement in the game isn't exceptionally stupid like watching Raiden in combat. Is he seriously twirling around like that while slashing up a mofo? On top of that it looks slow.

Second it's a hack n slash and it's MG he won't be all that vulnerable, and he'll always have enough health to get to the enemies.

Third Ninja Gaiden had critical hits, or one slash kills basically. Instant kills(hell the enemies had some of em as well). Although in NG they were more random. This seems entirely focused on just one slice kills. Either way I thought it looked decent, but nothing worth noting.
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#154 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

well I can't hope for much from Raiden as a character (his whole "boo hoo I'm a lonely cyborg" thing in MGS4 felt totally contrived), and I can't expect from the story that's really insightful interesting in the MGS universe.

gameplay wise it might not be a typical hack and slash, and the slow mo cutting might just be a special event, where normal slicing through mooks in real time is the majority. we don't know much about boss characters, elite mooks, and what kind of combat they involve.

but think of how damn unique rising would be if it didn't follow video game slash rules. every cut you make on an unarmored target is a kill. ninja gaiden doesn't do that, nor does DMC, GOW, bayonetta, etc. they all just have invisible hitpoints that deplete before the enemy gibs in a predetermined way. (hell, LIGHTSABERS don't even cut through anything until the all powerful hitpoint gods say so :roll: )

therefore the focus of combat might be movement, evasion, waiting for the right time to strike, and once you strike, you have won. instead of hack hack hack for each enemy just to kill them.

if raiden is very vulnerable to ranged enemy weapons, that's a whole different dynamic than what we would expect. 

jg4xchamp

It wouldn't be unique Afro Samurai had it first :?

On top of that it doesn't exactly look all that exciting. I'm missing the "wow factor" everyone is getting from it. The slahses look nice and clean, and there should be some glorious blood. The thing is it looks so shallow in comparrison to anything in the rest of the genre, and in terms of animations holy crap did that look lame.

Bayonetta is basically a slut, but her movement in the game isn't exceptionally stupid like watching Raiden in combat. Is he seriously twirling around like that while slashing up a mofo? On top of that it looks slow.

Second it's a hack n slash and it's MG he won't be all that vulnerable, and he'll always have enough health to get to the enemies.

Third Ninja Gaiden had critical hits, or one slash kills basically. Instant kills(hell the enemies had some of em as well). Although in NG they were more random. This seems entirely focused on just one slice kills. Either way I thought it looked decent, but nothing worth noting.

I think it will be forgotten once it releases. I also think the genre change for this particular spin-off will result in a half-backed hack-and-slash game. There might be a few neat ideas but that's probably all. I haven't seen the trailer, but MGS games are always somewhat clunky, so I'm not really expecting much in an MGS hack-and-slash.  

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#155 Mordred19
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okay, well I don't care about afro samurai. when did that game come out? yeah I thought so. :P
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#156 Mordred19
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I just watched the rising video again. we have no idea just how fast the game will be. nothing says slow or clunky about it.
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#157 jg4xchamp
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okay, well I don't care about afro samurai. when did that game come out? yeah I thought so. :PMordred19
08 or something. I don't care for it either. I'm just saying it isn't like it was something that hasn't been done before :P

Batman: AA wasn't overly complex either it was just really satisfying. Smooth transitions between each hit, and rhythm based made it fun to play. So MGR might have that going for it, but that footage was kind of boring. Oh and they chose the douche bag version of Raiden. I would have rather just had a game with Grey Fox or something or an actual Zone of the Enders.
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#158 Wanderer5
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Been watching some Kinect games and... I think I just stick with controllers and some of those games look really super lame (then again the PS move will probably have some too).

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#159 jg4xchamp
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Been watching some Kinect games and... I think I just stick with controllers and some of those games look really super lame (then again the PS move will probably have some too).

Wanderer5
True there should be some stupid stuff for move like that fighting game, but Sony might have some of their better franchises using it as well. Socom 4 should be interesting with those controls, and I wouldn't be surprised if Resistance 3 is announced as a show case for how Move is for FPS controls. Not to mention Little Big Planet 2 should end up using it for the level editors, and I'm sure MM will come up with something to use it for in the single player or coop.

I think Sony is thinking of a more balanced approach to the motion controls. Partially because it's essentially the wii mote.
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#161 Bioshockraptor
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Now that I've seen it, I'm very stoked for Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier.
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#162 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I think I'm the only one seriously enjoying the E3 so far.

  • Rising delivered.
  • Gears 3 delivered.
  • Halo Reach delivered.
  • New Crytek game has me interested.
  • Crysis 2 delivered.
  • Dead Space 2 delivered.
  • Bulletstrom delivered.
  • Future Soldier delivered.

And we still have Nintendo's and Sony's for our amazement.

But yeah, I suppose...

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#163 Bioshockraptor
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Oh don't worry, Ghost Recon delivered for me a lot also. Never before had I seen something without playing it myself that was so short that felt so diverse.
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#164 110million
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I think I'm the only one seriously enjoying the E3 so far.

  • Rising delivered.
  • Gears 3 delivered.
  • Halo Reach delivered.
  • New Crytek game has me interested.
  • Crysis 2 delivered.
  • Dead Space 2 delivered.
  • Bulletstrom delivered.
  • Future Soldier delivered.

And we still have Nintendo's and Sony's for our amazement.

But yeah, I suppose...

IronBass

Its true, there were a ton of great looking games shown, but I want teh megatons. Or something new and truely innovative and unique. You listed only shooters.. I like shooters, I'm so hyped for Crysis 2, but thats still a lot of shooters..

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#165 mitu123
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I know champ will be happy after reading this:

Halo Reach will have Firefight

This is so much win, imagine the gamenights...

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#166 haziqonfire
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E3 highlights for me..

Gears of War 3
Bulletstorm
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
Rayman: Origins
Crysis 2
Need For Speed from Criterion Games is win.
Dead Space 2
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Though to be honest I'll probably only end up buying Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and Dead Space 2, the other games are the ones I'm interested in playing eventually. As for Microsoft's conference, beyond Gears 3, everything else was boring for me personally.

EA's conference was pretty good, Ubisoft's was suck minus the two games I mentioned. 

 

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#167 spinecaton
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I think I'm the only one seriously enjoying the E3 so far.

  • Rising delivered.
  • Gears 3 delivered.
  • Halo Reach delivered.
  • New Crytek game has me interested.
  • Crysis 2 delivered.
  • Dead Space 2 delivered.
  • Bulletstrom delivered.
  • Future Soldier delivered.

And we still have Nintendo's and Sony's for our amazement.

But yeah, I suppose...

IronBass

2 action games and 6 shooters, genres I never get too excited about :(

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#168 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

After Day 1 of E3, I can safely say: SAVE US NINTENDO!!!!!!!!

 

Lionheart08

Nintendo will look down and whisper no. 

I guess they yelled No Problemo instead. :P 

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#169 Lionheart08
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IronBass

Vince McMahon is so awesome. :lol: 

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#170 jg4xchamp
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Donkey Kong is BACK :D
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#171 Lionheart08
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Donkey Kong is BACK :Djg4xchamp

Seriously, that sold the show to me. Right now I'm at the cross roads of not knowing whether to get a Wii or a PS3 this summer. This conference really has pushed me more to Ninty's camp. 

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#172 Floppy_Jim
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I know champ will be happy after reading this:

Halo Reach will have Firefight

This is so much win, imagine the gamenights...

mitu123

Mitu, if you wanted to get my giblets tingling with excitement you did a good job.

Nintendo, Advance Wars for 3DS nao.

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#173 Hoffgod
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That was really good. Only real issue is the Zelda control issues, but that might be interference, like they claim. Other than that, new Donkey Kong, new Kirby, Metroid Other M looks great, Goldeneye (hell yeah!), the 3DS looks awesome (assuming it works like they claim it does), new Kid Icarus which looks like a StarFox game (double hell yeah!), Resident Evil and MGS games for 3DS, and, best of all, no Cammy Dunaway. Way to go Nintendo. You finally put together a good E3 press conference.
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#174 CJL13
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Nintendo just saved E3.
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#175 mo0ksi
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I really want a Wii now.
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#176 Wanderer5
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Nintendo's Conference just blew me away. The 3DS is going to be awesome and the support behind it is great. As for the Wii I will be keeping a eye on Zelda, Epic Mickey, and maybe Kirby.
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#177 jg4xchamp
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Hell froze over because I actually wanted to play one of those 3DS games :|
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#178 skrat_01
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Well colour me happy.

Epic Mickey is looking awesome. Warren Spector you're a chief. 

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#179 yoshi_64
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I know champ will be happy after reading this:

Halo Reach will have Firefight

This is so much win, imagine the gamenights...

Floppy_Jim

Mitu, if you wanted to get my giblets tingling with excitement you did a good job.

Nintendo, Advance Wars for 3DS nao.

Yes!!! 3DS AW please!!!
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Hell froze over because I actually wanted to play one of those 3DS games :|jg4xchamp
Kid Icarus? :P
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#182 organic_machine
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Ninty's conference ****ing owned! LOL at MS and Ubisoft. :lol:

with what? Zelda? and Metroid?(although yes two exceptional franchises)

Most of their conference could very well be the same crap. Sales talk(nintendo will do that), Montages(nintendo will do that), handheld talk(eww), and then the bone or two that is the New Metroid and Zelda(plus another game announcement for one of their franchises).

jg4xchamp

Please admit ownage, good sir! :P 

 

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#183 dragonfly110
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of course I miss the nintendo conference and it turns out amazing :|
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#184 Skittles_McGee
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Nintendo won E3. I know Sony didn't go yet. I don't care. Nintendo won.

There is no debate here. Lock the thread, there is nothing left to say. Nintendo won E3, they won 2010, they won life.

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#185 Kev_Unreal
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I want the 3DS, I want the 3DS, I want the 3DS NOW! =(

But really, Nintendo steals the show at E3 thus far.

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#186 yoshi_64
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Nintendo won E3. I know Sony didn't go yet. I don't care. Nintendo won.

There is no debate here. Lock the thread, there is nothing left to say. Nintendo won E3, they won 2010, they won life.

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lol yeah their E3 was epic.... :P
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#187 PatchMaster
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Pretty awesome that Kid Icarus, Kirby & DK are back. Looks like they'll be a Star Fox for 3DS too. Where's Pikmin though?

Kinda crazy that the 3DS will probably have quality titles at launch, but did they give a release date?

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#188 Shinobishyguy
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As I predicted zelda was met with mixed reactions. Anyone here actually excited about the game like me?
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#189 PatchMaster
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Nintendo, Advance Wars for 3DS nao. Floppy_Jim

Word. That and a new Fire Emblem.

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#190 kage_53
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lol Nintendo showed more core games than MS did. What is going on here ?
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#191 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Nintendo won E3. I know Sony didn't go yet. I don't care. Nintendo won.

There is no debate here. Lock the thread, there is nothing left to say. Nintendo won E3, they won 2010, they won life.

Skittles_McGee

Exactly.

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#192 jg4xchamp
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I know champ will be happy after reading this:

Halo Reach will have Firefight

This is so much win, imagine the gamenights...

mitu123
Actually yes and no.

I want a new game mode. Maybe something like counter ops or something. Firefight is cool and all, but eh it got boring where as I can still bring myself to play Halo 3 competitive MP.
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#193 jg4xchamp
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As I predicted zelda was met with mixed reactions. Anyone here actually excited about the game like me?Shinobishyguy
The controls are what bothered people. Once those are tightened up it will be fine.
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#194 CJL13
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If only the 3DS had a price and release date...
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#195 jg4xchamp
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Ninty's conference ****ing owned! LOL at MS and Ubisoft. :lol:

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]with what? Zelda? and Metroid?(although yes two exceptional franchises)

Most of their conference could very well be the same crap. Sales talk(nintendo will do that), Montages(nintendo will do that), handheld talk(eww), and then the bone or two that is the New Metroid and Zelda(plus another game announcement for one of their franchises).

organic_machine

Please admit ownage, good sir! :P 

 

Gladly they showed Donkey Kong :D
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#196 Dystopian-X
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So Nintendo steals from Sony inadvertently. Nice.

But sadly, 3D it will be just another gimmick like Sony wand and Natal >:

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#197 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]As I predicted zelda was met with mixed reactions. Anyone here actually excited about the game like me?jg4xchamp
The controls are what bothered people. Once those are tightened up it will be fine.

how about the look, items and such. What are your thoughts on those?
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#198 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Epic Mickey = Game of E3 for me so far.

It looked incredibly, and the switch to 2D make me :shock:

Also, Zelda looks amazing. Cell-shading + TP artstyIe = Win.

They had techinical problems (that much was obvious), but no doubt it's gonna be awesome.

DKC and the 3DS were the icing in the win cake. :D

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#199 dragonfly110
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alrite IM watching the press conference now and all I can say is holy **** nintendo you earned my faith back in you :D
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#200 BZSIN
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DKC and the 3DS were the highlights for me. Definitely picking one up at launch, whenever that may be.