Things that could have made FFXII better.

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I don't remember which trailer it was, but one of them showed a few second of the battle system gameplay. It looked fast and furious, but considering it's been almost a year since it was first shown, who knows how much it's changed since then.

NWA_31

It was the very first one, I believe - the one shown at E3 2006.

Which raises the question: Where the **** is the gameplay footage for FFXIII ? :P

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]We really don't know much of anything about FFXIII. They haven't told us much and only shown us CG trailersEbi_Furya

I don't remember which trailer it was, but one of them showed a few second of the battle system gameplay. It looked fast and furious, but considering it's been almost a year since it was first shown, who knows how much it's changed since then.

You are filling yoursel if you think that was gameplay. It might be what hte gameplay will end up looking like, but that was CGI manfs_metal

Actually, it wasn't.

The trailer often switched from CG to real-time. There was a slight difference between them, but it was especially noticable in the character models.

FFXIII isn't getting me very interested at all, and I have never seen any gameplay footage, when it come sto battles. :?

and on the topic, I would have liked to have more focus of the characters than the big war, because if I'm going to be using these characters for hundreds of hours, i'd like to know them a bit more...

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]You are filling yoursel if you think that was gameplay. It might be what hte gameplay will end up looking like, but that was CGI manNWA_31

Actually, it wasn't.

The trailer often switched from CG to real-time. There was a slight difference between them, but it was especially noticable in the character models.

FFXIII isn't getting me very interested at all, and I have never seen any gameplay footage, when it come sto battles. :?

and on the topic, I would have liked to have more focus of the characters than the big war, because if I'm going to be using these characters for hundreds of hours, i'd like to know them a bit more...

DJ-Lafleur

I've watched it many times and you are wrong. Tehre is no gameplay in that trailerfs_metal

I don't know what you mean by 'gameplay', but there was definitely real-time graphics (As in, not a video file).

[QUOTE="NWA_31"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]I've watched it many times and you are wrong. Tehre is no gameplay in that trailerfs_metal

I don't know what you mean by 'gameplay', but there was definitely real-time graphics (As in, not a video file).

*facepalm*...I'm speechless...

NWA is not acting so aggressive towards you, no need to be so aggressive towards him...

He doesn't have to argue with me endlessly on every single topic known to man thoughfs_metal

IT was totally prerendered dude. Can we move on?fs_metal

Opinion? What? Eitehr it is prerendered or it isn't, and that was.fs_metal

Do you know how much it bothers me that you are 'getting sick of me'? It doesn't make you not wrongfs_metal

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Do you know how much it bothers me that you are 'getting sick of me'? It doesn't make you not wrongSony_FanBoy

Here is the thing. When a fact contradicts an opinion, that opinion is wrong. People used to be of hte opinion that the world was flat. Were they right?

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Do you know how much it bothers me that you are 'getting sick of me'? It doesn't make you not wrongfs_metal

Here is the thing. When a fact contradicts an opinion, that opinion is wrong. People used to be of hte opinion that the world was flat. Were they right?

Nope. They weren't. :)

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Do you know how much it bothers me that you are 'getting sick of me'? It doesn't make you not wrongfs_metal

Here is the thing. When a fact contradicts an opinion, that opinion is wrong. People used to be of hte opinion that the world was flat. Were they right?

*bangs head against table*

GETTING BACK ON TOPIC!!! I wish the espers could have been a bit more useful in XII. my characters were much better than the espers, I had no reason to ever waste MP on them, Espers seemed to die quickly, too...

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Do you know how much it bothers me that you are 'getting sick of me'? It doesn't make you not wrongfrostbourne

Here is the thing. When a fact contradicts an opinion, that opinion is wrong. People used to be of hte opinion that the world was flat. Were they right?

Nope. They weren't. :)

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Do you know how much it bothers me that you are 'getting sick of me'? It doesn't make you not wrongSony_FanBoy

Here is the thing. When a fact contradicts an opinion, that opinion is wrong. People used to be of hte opinion that the world was flat. Were they right?

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Do you know how much it bothers me that you are 'getting sick of me'? It doesn't make you not wrongfs_metal

Here is the thing. When a fact contradicts an opinion, that opinion is wrong. People used to be of hte opinion that the world was flat. Were they right?

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Do you know how much it bothers me that you are 'getting sick of me'? It doesn't make you not wrongSony_FanBoy

Here is the thing. When a fact contradicts an opinion, that opinion is wrong. People used to be of hte opinion that the world was flat. Were they right?

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Do you know how much it bothers me that you are 'getting sick of me'? It doesn't make you not wrongfs_metal

Here is the thing. When a fact contradicts an opinion, that opinion is wrong. People used to be of hte opinion that the world was flat. Were they right?

Well the trailer wasn't fully CGI. I think square-enix created a trailer to show off what they want the battle system to be like and to show off the in-game graphic engine.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"]Do you know how much it bothers me that you are 'getting sick of me'? It doesn't make you not wrongSony_FanBoy

Here is the thing. When a fact contradicts an opinion, that opinion is wrong. People used to be of hte opinion that the world was flat. Were they right?

Well the trailer wasn't fully CGI. I think square-enix created a trailer to show off what they want the battle system to be like and to show off the in-game graphic engine.

I thought you said you were done with me.

once you accept that there is no such existence of truth or fact and that they are both just words, there might be a little less aggressiveness by fs_metal mainly due to the fact he can't accept that there are such things that he cannot deal with...

I could "prove" that religion as it exists at this moment is a myth, and that christianity is an astrotheological hybrid, but that wouldn't make me completely right in many senses of the word(since it is just a word)...

Can either of you prove what you're saying? :|TaCoDuDe

All I'm saying is that it's my opinion. Seeing as how Sqaure-Enix never came out and said it was pre-rendered, I'm allowed my own opinion on it. Also this is Square we are talking about. It's not like it's new to see them making graphics that may look to some as pre-rendered. Look at the graphics for XII. XII is in my top 3 games for the PS2 graphics list. Some of the best graphics.

once you accept that there is no such existence of truth or fact and that they are both just words, there might be a little less aggressiveness by fs_metal mainly due to the fact he can't accept that there are such things that he cannot deal with...

I could "prove" that religion as it exists at this moment is a myth, and that christianity is an astrotheological hybrid, but that wouldn't make me completely right in many senses of the word(since it is just a word)...

A_Fading_Scream

[QUOTE="A_Fading_Scream"]

once you accept that there is no such existence of truth or fact and that they are both just words, there might be a little less aggressiveness by fs_metal mainly due to the fact he can't accept that there are such things that he cannot deal with...

I could "prove" that religion as it exists at this moment is a myth, and that christianity is an astrotheological hybrid, but that wouldn't make me completely right in many senses of the word(since it is just a word)...

fs_metal

You have a problem with people expressing their opinions on things.

No. I have a problem with ignorance. To suggest that there is no truth or fact is ignorancefs_metal

It's his opinion. Although I think that there is such a thing as fact and truth, doesn't mean I'm going to argue with A_Fading_Scream. It's Scream's opinion.

[QUOTE="NWA_31"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]I've watched it many times and you are wrong. Tehre is no gameplay in that trailerfs_metal

I don't know what you mean by 'gameplay', but there was definitely real-time graphics (As in, not a video file).

I'm just expressing my thoughts, which I fully have the right to do. If you don't like it, you can always ignore me.

As I said, there is a very clear difference between some parts of the trailer, especially in the character models. For instance, if you look at Lightning at 0:50 and compare with her at 0:57, you can see that the trailer switched from real-time to CGI.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]No. I have a problem with ignorance. To suggest that there is no truth or fact is ignoranceSony_FanBoy

It's his opinion. Although I think that there is such a thing as fact and truth, doesn't mean I'm going to argue with A_Fading_Scream. It's Scream's opinion.

The fact of the matter is that the entire trailer was CG, so your opinion is contradicted by factfs_metal

Where is it said anywhere that the entire trailer is CG?

It doesn't need to be said .It is obviousfs_metal

PROOF!!! SHOW PROOF!!!! IF YOU ARE SO STUCK IN YOUR WAYS, PROVE THAT YOU ARE RIGHT!!!! INSTEAD OF ATTACKING OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS!!!!!

It doesn't need to be said .It is obviousfs_metal

That may be true, but that doesn't make it "fact".

It is possible, maybe even probable, but until the devs come out and see "It's all CG", its not "fact".

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]It doesn't need to be said .It is obviousTaCoDuDe

That may be true, but that doesn't make it "fact".

It is possible, maybe even probable, but until the devs come out and see "It's all CG", its not "fact".

OH!!! Great point! Can you argue that FS?

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]It doesn't need to be said .It is obviousTaCoDuDe

That may be true, but that doesn't make it "fact".

It is possible, maybe even probable, but until the devs come out and see "It's all CG", its not "fact".

[QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]It doesn't need to be said .It is obviousfs_metal

That may be true, but that doesn't make it "fact".

It is possible, maybe even probable, but until the devs come out and see "It's all CG", its not "fact".

But that's still not fact. Show proof. If it is fact then Square should have a statement somewhere saying that the trailer was CG.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]It doesn't need to be said .It is obviousSony_FanBoy

That may be true, but that doesn't make it "fact".

It is possible, maybe even probable, but until the devs come out and see "It's all CG", its not "fact".

But that's still not fact. Show proof. If it is fact then Square should have a statement somewhere saying that the trailer was CG.

The video itself and a brain that works is all the proof that you need

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]It doesn't need to be said .It is obviousfs_metal

That may be true, but that doesn't make it "fact".

It is possible, maybe even probable, but until the devs come out and see "It's all CG", its not "fact".

But that's still not fact. Show proof. If it is fact then Square should have a statement somewhere saying that the trailer was CG.

The video itself and a brain that works is all the proof that you need

I'm sure that everyone is over the fact that it won't make it this year. But where's your PROOF, your words mean nothing. SHOW PROOF THAT YOU'RE RIGHT.

I don't need to. The video does it for me. We've already established this. If you aren't going to bother reading what I type, why are you here? Why do you post on forums id you do not read?fs_metal

I read what you're typing, but the FACT is that you don't have proof to back up what you're saying. I've seen the fu cking trailer, I've stated my opinions on it, but you won't shut the hell up and leave it at that. You insist on attacking everyone's opinions on what they think the trailer is.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]I don't need to. The video does it for me. We've already established this. If you aren't going to bother reading what I type, why are you here? Why do you post on forums id you do not read?Sony_FanBoy

I read what you're typing, but the FACT is that you don't have proof to back up what you're saying. I've seen the fu cking trailer, I've stated my opinions on it, but you won't shut the hell up and leave it at that. You insist on attacking everyone's opinions on what they think the trailer is.