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#1 zeldisco2009
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

How many times has releasing first actually worked?

The Dreamcast got stomped by the PS2, and the 360 got stomped by the Wii.

When you release doesn't matter. What matters is whether you can provide something that people want.

The Wii-U has the advantage of being the first one out of the gate, but that also means that it could be made irrelevant by the Nextbox and the PS4. It depends on a hell of a lot of things.

You can't plan for successes like the PS2, the Wii, or the DS. They just happen.

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NES released first and became first.

SNES released 2. but still won

PS 1 launched first and became first.

PS2 released first(DC doesnt count as it flopped because of other reasons) and became first

Xbox 360 launched first and became first in th HD console battle.

WII U releases first and becomes first despite inferior graphics,because NINTENDO is KING.PS4 and Xbox 720 become Sony and Microsoft last console,just like PS VIta is Sonys last handheld.

He still has a point though. Just because a system releases first, doesn't mean it will always win. Nintendo would have to do a lot of things right in order for that to happen.

well the chances are much higher if it releases first.I would say 85% chance unless Nintendo completely fu*ks up like Sony fu*ked up with the PS3 earlier in the gen.

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#2 zeldisco2009
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How many times has releasing first actually worked?

The Dreamcast got stomped by the PS2, and the 360 got stomped by the Wii.

When you release doesn't matter. What matters is whether you can provide something that people want.

The Wii-U has the advantage of being the first one out of the gate, but that also means that it could be made irrelevant by the Nextbox and the PS4. It depends on a hell of a lot of things.

You can't plan for successes like the PS2, the Wii, or the DS. They just happen.

DarkLink77

NES released first and became first.

SNES released 2. but still won

PS 1 launched first and became first.

PS2 released first(DC doesnt count as it flopped because of other reasons) and became first

Xbox 360 launched first and became first in th HD console battle.

WII U releases first and becomes first despite inferior graphics,because NINTENDO is KING.PS4 and Xbox 720 become Sony and Microsoft last console,just like PS VIta is Sonys last handheld.

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#3 zeldisco2009
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Dont worry PS4 will be Sonys last console just like the PS Vita is Sonys last handheld.So you only have to worry about WII U and maybe Xbox RROD 720 Kinect if you like low quality casual games.

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Final Fantasy 10

Paper Mario 2

Persona 4

Mario a. Luigi Superstar Saga

Pokemon Gold

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#5 zeldisco2009
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they HATE Nintendo but thats it.Skyward Sword review and its score 20 points below metacritic is everything I need to say.It was a hate crime review or a noob review by someone(Troll Mcshea)who started playing games yesterday and who mainly plays games on a smart phone from 2007 with his favourite game being Tetris and Cooking Mama.

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#6 zeldisco2009
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well it is very likely that the WII U will dominate stronger than the PS2 and the DS did.WII U is some aspects a console version of the DS.WIIDS had a install base of 250 million this gen,a fraction of it would be enough to make the WII U the most dominant plattform.720 will likely become secound.Nintendo is going to do well without third party but if third party give Nintendo the superior treamtent,just like it is happeing with the 3DS(Monster Hunter 3,4,Resident Evil,Metal Gear,Kingdom Hearts etc) than that spells trouble for Xbox and Playstation.Especially the Playstation plattform is endangered of doing a Dreamcast,as Sonys first party is very weak for consumers.PS4 could be Sonys last console,just like the PS Vita seems to be Sonys last handheld,if third party support Nintendo instead.

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#7 zeldisco2009
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PS Vita is certainly almost dead and yes smart phones are replacing portables more or less and Sonys latest device is dieing a disgraceful death because of its rubbish first and third party content.

However the 3DS is an exception.It is on its way to outsell the life time sales of the PS3 in just one year in Japan.3DS might not do as well as the DS but it will probably still outsell Wii and Wii U,Xbox 360 and 720 and PS3 and PS4.Your argument could be used to say that consoles are dieing as well and being replace by PC.3DS has already sold 15 million units and is not even out for 1 year on market.It is doing better than PS3 and Xbox 360 and also better than the original DS.PS Vita deseves to be ignored by consumers as it is another shameful device by Sony and the Vita is dieing because third party have deserted Sony to go to Nintendo with Monster Hunter 3,4,Dragon Quest,Metal Gear,Resident Evil and Kingdom Hearts.

PS Vitas failure,as it is flopping much much harder than the Dreamcast,indicates that the PS4 will be Sonys last consoles if they lose third party support to Nintendo,just like it is happening with the 3DS.Fanboys dont like to admit it but no one cares about Sonys first party,people buy their consoles to play third party games like COD,FiFa,Madden,NFS,GTA,ReD Ded,Final Fantasy etc.If Sony has to rely on their first party then PS4 will be dead on arrival just like the PS Vita.

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#8 zeldisco2009
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[QUOTE="AussieePet"] Why do they feel developing less games solves their problems? Sony is very wealthy financially so theres lots they can do and not have to worry :) AussieePet

did someone just Sony is very wealthy financially????!!!!!!!!LMAO ROFL :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sony has been losing money for the last 5 years.They just lost over 2 billions in the last quarter.They are closer to bankruptcy than Sega was during the Dreamcast era.PS Vita is dead.PS 4 looks like its gonna burn donw in flames as well,just like the PS3,which lost all the money Sony made during the PS2 era.

Wow well thats news to me :D I thought they had enough money to survive . Wow i feel sorry for Sony Entertainment , but what are the reasons they are close to bankruptcy? They aren't producing any good games lately?

this is news to you????!!!!wow just wow

Well Sony is more than a videogames company and all their other departments like tv buisness,,music,movies.gadgets all have been in trouble because of harsh competition.In the games deaprtment they made more top quality first party games in the history of the playstation but they couldnt sell the games like resistance 3 etc.Plus their gaming divion is making slight profit but it is not enough to compensate the losses they have made earlier in the gen with the ps3,which lost sony all the money made during the ps2 era,especially because of bluray.PS Vita is also dieing because of competition with the 3ds and smarth phones.So if they go on like this and there is nothing to suggest that their situatuon is going to change then the PS4 will be Sony last console and they might have to make games as a third party,like Sega,on WII U and Xbox 720.You shouldnt feel sorry for them as they made too many stupid mistakes the last couple of years and were extremely arrogant(599 and consumers should get 2 jobs to afford the PS3).

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#9 zeldisco2009
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[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2012/02/10/sony-we-should-probably-develop-less-games/

Lots of exclusives but not making much money from it I'm guessing. What can Sony do to turn this around?

AussieePet

Why do they feel developing less games solves their problems? Sony is very wealthy financially so theres lots they can do and not have to worry :)

did someone just Sony is very wealthy financially????!!!!!!!!LMAO ROFL :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sony has been losing money for the last 5 years.They just lost over 2 billions in the last quarter.They are closer to bankruptcy than Sega was during the Dreamcast era.PS Vita is dead.PS 4 looks like its gonna burn donw in flames as well,just like the PS3,which lost all the money Sony made during the PS2 era.

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#10 zeldisco2009
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I have a question

Why does everyone in system wars use

lems?

hermits?

sheeps?

cows?

bored to death?

wtf do these mean?

free_milk

lems: xbox fans

hermits:pc fans

sheeps:nintendo fans

cows:sony fans.