their support anything but playstaion is weak but konami doesnt matter,they have onla a few franchises and are a small company anywaay.hd colections dont count as support.plus the fact that they had outsource rising to pltinum says everything about their standing and ability.Metal gear is amovie game and those are for hardware reasons better suitedon Playstaion.They are not needed and once Nintendo completes its total takeover of the japanese market with the 3ds and U kojima will come begging to us.we should be more concerned about the western support like Gta ,betttthseda and take two.

I dont know whether it is the best sytem of alltime.But it is one of the best and for me personally equal to Gamecube(I am a Nintendo fan).

Excellent 3D plattfomers(better than Cube and I think equla to the N64 in quality)

Ratchet and Clank Trilogy(weapon based plattfomers)

Jak and Daxter(Mario 64 clone with open world and no loading times)

Sly 3 (gameplay consists of mini games and probably the best cel shaded graphics ever,looks better than Wind Waker)

Jak 2 and 3 (mix of genres,bit of GTA)

Plus Psychonauts(funniest game of alltime and cult classic but the Xbox version is better)

and many many more(decent ones)

RPG: I dont think I have to explain that it was better than Cube despite Paper Mario 2.

Final Fantasy 10

Persona 4(other RPGS are bit average,too much grinding or dated like Dragon Quest)

Shooters( draw with gamecube or maybe Cube gets the edge because of Metroid Prime)

Timesplitters

Black(nextgen graphics)

Action Advenure/Sandbox(Cube lacked good sandbox games and mutliplats but Metroid Prime and Zelda are supreme)

GTA San Andreas

Metal Gear Solid(cinematic masterpiece but average or clunky gameplay)

Okami(A pure Zelda clone made by the Minish Cap team of Capcom and better than any Zelda game on Gamecube)

God of War 2(high production values)

Canis Canem/Bully(GTA in school)

Racer(Cube was superior here with Wave Race Blue Storm,F Zero GX,Mario Kart DD and Burnout 2)

Burnout series(Takedown expecially)

Outrun 2006

Racing sims like Gran Turismo

The Cube was superior in those qurky,creative and magical games like Pikmin,Luigis Manson,Paper Mario,Donkey Kong Jungle beat,plus better versions of multiplats like Prince of Persia.The Cube was Nintendos best system IMO as the 3D games were more polished than the N64 era,more focus on core games than the Wii era,plus more sophisicated and advanced game than Nintendos 2D era with SNES and NES.

Plus almost every multiplat and Resident Evil 4 makes the PS2 in some ways better than Cube but in terms of top quality,tripple A games both were equal to me).But it is righly regarded as one of the best systems of alltime,arguably even the best.

I always laugh when people say it will do a PSP.People are underestimating the PSP,it was more successful than the Xbox 360 and PS3.In Japan the PSP sold 20 million units,as many as the PS2.It took the PSP 5-6 year to do that.Vita has been out in Japan for almost a year and it hasnt even managed 900 K.It should have been atleast 3 million unit now(the 3DS is over 5-6 million in around 1 year).

People who were expecting that the Vita would outsell the 3DS or would become closer to Nintendo than before didnt know that all third parties and especially the highest selling third party game of alltime in Japan(Monster Hunter) would be on the 3DS as exclusives(the announcement came later).Monster Hunter was responsible for making the PSP as succesful as the PS2 and now it is gone to the competition.

Vita is right now doing below the Dreamcast(sold 10 million in around 3 years) and the Vita is below 2 million worldwide within its first year.Plus their is zero mass market appeal(mario,mario kart,pokemon,monster hunter) and COD has never done anything on handhelds.

The bigger problem is third parties are pulling out and the support is the exact opposite of the PSP( it got 2 exclusive GTA,not even the WII got them,Kingdom Hearts exclusive,Monster Hunter exclusive,Final Fantasy 7 exclusive ,Metal gear solid exclusive etc).Right now the fact that no one is even announcing a pathetic port of all these series I mentioned above(as 3DS has most of them as exclusive plus Nintendos giant sellers and the PSP got them announced before its launch) makes the Vita dead on arrival as I had predicted months before Vitas release.

The best it will get is 6-7 million unit sold woldwide within 3 years.If it is lucky.

Zelda is garbage.Worst series in the world.Kinect Star Wars dance game is better than Ocarina of Time.I mean it.

as a games company,no exclusives,Kinect focus and anticonsumer behaviour:

4/10

Charizards best thread

It is at best half a gen ahead.Porting from 720 and PS4 is very good possible if they dont use the power for the secound screen.But in the beginning games will look like the end of the gen PS3 and Xbox 360 games.Looking forward to Zelda in HD.If they use the secound screen extensively then games cannot look much better than the end of the gen PS3 and X360 games.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] Nope, not arguable. 360 and PS3 have more then double the amount of good games Wii does. It was similar with PS1 beating N64 and PS2 beating Gamecube. You can prefer the Wii, that's fine. It still finished in last place for amount of quality games. Don't talk rubbish about game length. Length of a game depends on it's genre, not it's console. RPG's last a long time on any console. See: Skyrim.locopatho

Link?I am aware PS360 have more high quality games but those games have a very small content(even some movies can last longer) so you need to play at least 10 of those to compensate one Nintendo WII top game.Plus those games are multiplat and most of those games like Skyrim are best enjoyed on PC.So why would I want to play those games on PS360 if I could play them on PC with better graphics(which is the main gimmick of PS3 and 360)?You can use this argument more in favour for the PC than the HD consoles.N64 had e.g. Ocarina of Time which was in terms of gamplay and graphics 2-3 gens ahead of the PS1 games.People still talk about N64 games since they havent aged as badly as the dated PS1 games.PS1 should be compared with the SNES and then the SNES wins easily.The gamecube had also games like Metroid Prime and Resident Evil 4 which were higher rated than 99 % of all PS2 games(not than I am saying gamecube was better than PS2 but I enjoyed both more or less equally as I only play games with a mimimum rating of 90% and in that category it was pretty close:(Wind Waker ,Metroid Prime and Resident Evil 4 won GOTY here but not many PS2 games)

Length is to some extent dependent on its genre.But is is not my fault that 98% of the PS360 libarary consistst of generic first person shooters with an average lenght of 5 hours(online content of most of those games doestn count as a strong argument since most people only play COD online).

Wait I need to follow your rules.I didnt know that.(The Legend of Locopatho:Twilight Laws.).There are no rules against my arguments and reasoning,if you cannot battle them then you are admitting defeat.Well I am ot discarding anything,I am just saying it is not my or the WIIs fault that 98% of PS360 libarary consistst of first person shooters with an average lenght of 5 hours.And those mini games are the reason PS360 have more or better quanitiy of games in their libarary but not necesserialy more quality or content.

TC: I got $20 that says the Wii U sells half as many units as the Wii did.StormyJoe

Is this your argument?Very weak.

I still expect WII U to outsell the PS 4 and 720.

wtf? did you think all that by your self?, impressive Wings_008

no Reggie is sitting nearby and is helping me out :D

What would I do without his glorious wisdom:

he is making my body ready

LOL

No seriously:I read a lot of gaming-related news for years.Plus google is a close friend of mine.