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#1 theSADmafioso
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I never said 1080p is useless. I have a 27" 1080p monitor and all those details in the Witcher screens were still there at 720p, and this monitor is nowhere near as good at scaling as a hdtv is. If you really think console games are as blurry as that Dark Souls screen youre insane. Are you saying that my 2nd screen isnt 720p? calling me a liar?

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I'm not sure if you're a liar or just thick. I've played Dark Souls on my PS3 for about 200 hours, if I get around 1 meter of my HD-Ready (720p native) 32 inch TV it becomes apparant just how blurry this console game is at 720p. Console games get away with lower res because the TV improves IQ plus sitting farther away makes the image look better. The screens I took of default PC settings are the direct unaltered 720p images from the PC version which is a straigh port from console version. You can call me out on using SweetFX or whatever else on the 1080p images but the 720p image is the default game running upscaled to 1080p on a 24 inch monitor and IT LOOKS THAT BLURRY!

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I was the one who linked to the thread where he got the other gif from. I still say that even without the color change its not a proper representaion of a res change. Here are my own screens at 1080p and 720p and the 720p isnt a blurry mess like the Dark Souls low res shot. All the details for example on the clothes and sword hilt are intact. Does it look as good? No but nowhere near the disparity in the Dark Souls shots. Naysayers are saying that the better the graphics are the higher res you need to display the improvements yet here we have The Witcher 2 which is way beyond Dark Souls pathetic graphics and the advanced graphics look great at 720p.

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Wow! You really opended my eyes of how useless 1080p and beyond is. There is no blur at 720p!!! I mean look at this screen I just took in UltraHD 2160p and then I resized it down to 480p and it still looks crisp as hell!!! God damn!!111 On the other hand I wonder what will happened if I save this image and then run it in full screen mode on my 24 inch monitor? BUT BUT, WHY DID IT GUT BLUUUURRD??!!!!

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#3 theSADmafioso
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If it's applied evenly to both images, then no. The point is that the images should differ in only a single aspect, or that other differences should be disclosed so that we can all draw conclusions about what the images actually represent.lowe0

Okay, here you go. Your precious little 720p with SweetFX looks even worse than default setting because of the low res. I did you a favour with the last comparsion, now go and be butthurt somewhere else. But knowing little fanboys like you, you'll probably whine about how I didn't manage to get the camera in the same postion for the two screens. Both screens default with SweetFX running same settings. Resolution matters in games, no way around that.

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#5 theSADmafioso
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So there is color correction applied (and FXAA) instead of just a simple resolution change. Now, I believe someone was saying I had an IQ problem merely for saying exactly that?lowe0

Yeah, should I disclose my screen calibration and brigness and gamma setting as well then because colour correction is compltely irrelevant to the IQ of the comparison I provided except enhancing colours. I also provided another only screen comparsion by the creator of DSfix. Also FXAA blurs the image to even out jaggies last I check, and should in a way make the image less sharp but more even. Consider yourself informed.

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#6 theSADmafioso
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Sorry, theres more going on here than just a res change unless you expect me to beleive 720p cant properly render the color blue. If this was for real then 480p would be black and white and too blurry to even read menus or ammo counts. Most likey the 720p shot has a blur filter similar to GTA 4.Cranler

Wrong! I made this gif and it is default PC 720p vs DSfix running with SweetFX (only colour correction and FXAA). No additional sharpening, if anything the FXAA should take away the original sharpness of the 1080p default image. I use SweetFX to get an extra punch from the game with stronger contrasts and more saturated colors. Also please don't compare downsized 1080p images with 720p, makes you look like a newb since detail gets lost.

But since I know your type and this is system wars and I can expect butthurt denial. Here is a comparison from the default settings with only high resolution being implemented. I think this is comparing default 720p vs 3000p. Showing your point wrong since there are gains beyond 1080p with default assets and settings but adding higher resolution.

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#7 theSADmafioso
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That screenshot is probably using the mod that allows higher resolutions.

The vanilla PC version is 720p too

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That's not the point. The point is that a game designed around 720p being rendered at 1080p looks better and shows more of the hidden details in the game world. Imagine if the game had been design from the ground up with 1080p in mind.

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#8 theSADmafioso
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Yes.

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#9 theSADmafioso
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So we're comparing one generic trailer to another generic trailer now? Dark Souls 2 generic trailer wins because it didn't have robo chicks with stupid breast implants in it.

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#10 theSADmafioso
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Dark Souls, enuff said.