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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You still haven't given a good answer as to why we should get involved. Shipping routes? Considering we import much of our products from China now....I can't see that happening dude. Do you even think about these issues for more than 5 seconds before you post on them?LJS9502_basic

I was giving examples of what can happen if you appease a rising power. Have you heard of this concept? If China were brazen enough to use their military against Taiwan you actually think they would just stop there?

I don't see anything like this happening in the near future because the repercussions for China would be large, but if did it would be equivalent to Japan's invasion of China or Germany's invasion of Poland. This isn't some desert wasteland, it's a stable democracy with a vibrant high-tech economy. You apparently think shrugging your shoulders is an adequate response to such a thing. I'm saying you're not only wrong, you're incredibly naive.

The important thing to keep in mind is that the risks and political consequences for China would be huge, so if Taiwan ever does become unified with the mainland, it wouldn't likely result from such a scenario. I'm saying that on the off chance that China went nuts and attacked Taiwan, yes the world (including the U.S.) should do something about it.

Which is exactly why this is an entirely unlikely hypothetical scenario. I'm saying that the U.S. should act if the scenario ever occured.

You still haven't given a good answer as to why we should get involved. Shipping routes? Considering we import much of our products from China now....I can't see that happening dude. Do you even think about these issues for more than 5 seconds before you post on them?LJS9502_basic

I was giving examples of what can happen if you appease a rising power. Have you heard of this concept? If China were brazen enough to use their military against Taiwan you actually think they would just stop there?

I don't see anything like this happening in the near future because the repercussions for China would be large, but if did it would be equivalent to Japan's invasion of China or Germany's invasion of Poland. This isn't some desert wasteland, it's a stable democracy with a vibrant high-tech economy. You apparently think shrugging your shoulders is an adequate response to such a thing. I'm saying you're not only wrong, you're incredibly naive.

The important thing to keep in mind is that the risks and political consequences for China would be huge, so if Taiwan ever does become unified with the mainland, it wouldn't likely result from such a scenario. I'm saying that on the off chance that China went nuts and attacked Taiwan, yes the world (including the U.S.) should do something about it.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Again why should I work to support/protect Taiwan? Answer....I shouldn't.LJS9502_basic

Because they're a friendly democratic country with a large economy and simply allowing China to invade them would amount to appeasement of a rising authoritarian power?

So next thing we know they'll start challenging our use of regional shipping routes and challenging their neighbors who are U.S. allies on territorial claims, and challenging our strategic military interests as they see fit since we were such pushovers.

Do you even think about these issues for more than 10 seconds before you post on them?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nothing. Why is that our problem?LJS9502_basic

You honestly can't see why it is from a geopolitical standpoint? Could you even locate Taiwan on a map?

Because they're a friendly democratic country with a large economy and simply allowing China to invade them would amount to appeasement of a rising authoritarian power?

Nothing. Why is that our problem?LJS9502_basic

You honestly can't see why it is from a geopolitical standpoint? Could you even locate Taiwan on a map?

I think the U.S. needs to make it clear that it will defend Taiwan under all circumstances, because it would make a military takeover completely impossible for China. The reason for this is that no other country would take China's side over the issue (especially not in any material way), and thus it would be China vs. the U.S. and its regional allies. This would be strongly in the interests of the U.S. because Taiwan is a friendly democracy and is in an extremely important geographic location economically. It would be a tragedy to see such a country overtaken by an authoritarian government.

I use auto pay for everything that lets me use a credit card. The rest I pay manually because I hate monitoring my checking balance constantly and I don't like keeping much money there since interest rates blow.

No entiendo.

DraugenCP

Agreed, Nintendo>entiendo

Draugen elke keer dat ik die Ivo Opstelten hoor krijg ik meer spijt dat ik VVD stem, wat een vreselijk enge babyboomer is die man. Leuk plan ook dat de roverheid onze computers en telefoons kan hacken.MrPraline

You're right, dragon elks that die like that whore Mr. Opstelten should ask themselves what it's like to die like a babyboomer. I also like that plan on the computers and telephones and can hack them.

I've played Vampire Savior on GGPO a bit and it's really a great fighting game, the characters especially are very unique and fun to use.

I am not one to buy many fighting games since I'm very focused on one as a tournament player, but if Capcom announced a Darkstalkers 4 I'd definitely preorder it.