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#1  Edited By Rawrrrson
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Welcome gents, tonight I think a discussion of 4K for both newbs, like me, and more experienced people would be good.

Mainstream 40' panels of 4K/1080 quality are the same price now. And now even we're getting 200mhz refresh/1ms on anything for cheap, it's nice and it's unfortunate that the hardware wasn't as potent as it was back in the days. We are seeing the beautifully tuned overclocking 9XX series Nvidia maxwell gen and the r9 from AMD and lately we have got some nice new cards such as the 980/ti, with the new Fury series and the refreshed 390/x series.

So personally, I have to decide. The 980ti aircooled is $1400 which is not worth it, so I can decide between..

The 980 has a chance at $900, which is an EVGA. The 390x with Crossfire later on, at $800, which is a Sapphire. I can also see the Asus poseidon 980, which will have a watercooled loop fitted to it and significantly overclocked, at $1100 NZD (would this performance be quite likely to the 980ti? Is 4gb enough on a Maxwell for 4K?).

Or the r9 390 Strix duc3 which I will wait out for, should be $650. I will most likely crossfire being $1400 with a 900w PSU.....Unfortunately SLi/Crossfire has issues - which I'm sure some opinions of for newbs like me, would be helpful.
As far as I'm concerned, I've had the most shocking and unforgivable Nvidia driver errors, SLi will not happen in my situation but single card for 1-2 years/sell/buy latest could do.

So I'm deciding for the $1100 poseidon/$1400 r9 390s crossfire with the 900w PSU, what are your opinions. Another common topic of point; will these r9 390s going to suffocate in this enclosure.

As you can see, with a 3 slot card I'm going to need Asus Strix dcu3 as it's 2 slots which I won't mind at all :P The blue lane you can see under the card is the other PCI-E 16x

Overclocking wouldn't happen which would stunt these non-x variants even more. This is a big downside to getting the crossfire, no overclocking.

So I'll wrap this up. Will I need to be looking at minimum 2x390xs/2xfurys/2x980tis to have an enjoyable time? From what I understand so far crossfire r9 390s will have issues but be exceptional performance in titles (most modern AAA/AAs?) that support it. The Crossfire setup looks future proof and the 980 Poseidon will be an adventure on its own while avoiding sli crossfire. This is why I'm considering the poseidon.

"We were able to take the GPU now to 1530MHz Boost Clock which translates to a real-world in-game frequency of 1580MHz! This is the highest stable overclock we've ever achieved on a GeForce GTX 980 GPU based video card. That is 80MHz faster with liquid cooling, but the best part? The GPU temperature never exceeded 50c under liquid at 1580MHz."

Big decisions ahead. Thanks for your time and any input on this situation.

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#2 Rawrrrson
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Hi thanks for the replies!!

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-board-dz68bc.html

That is my motherboard,

http://www.overclock.net/t/1323475/help-how-to-overclock-intel-dz68bc-extrem-motherboard

This is a forum/picture of what the BIOS looks like.


My cooler is this random Thermaltake one, just a bare allminum one with no fans, it's decently sized, pretty big. Top-of-the-line coolermaster thermal paste applied. CPU is at 24c on idle and has amazing perfomance scaling into upper reigons. It failed 4.4ghz on poorly-applied thermal paste and on a shity asrock motherboard but now I believe it's going to go a lot nicer into higher-voltages.

I've only touched UFIE or whatever BIOSes in the past, now I want to do everything manual so if anyone has any guides that'd be great!! :)

Thanks!!


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#4 Rawrrrson
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Heya.

I've got this Intel Extreme series, the BIOS is nothing like i've ever seen so want to play it safe and overclock/test limits on the desktop at the moment with real time monitoring.

What is the best way to get around to this?

It's this i5 2500K, it was a 2011 model i'm pretty sure. It can turbo to 4.2ghz safely but unfortunately Intels desktop software won't let me overclock the FSB because I haven't got the latest BIOS i'm assuming. Just like a nice portion of Sandy Bridge motherboards, if you update the BIOS to a Ivy Bridge configuration you're likely to see random BSODs/crashes. I'm lucky to have the perfect BIOS 0.288 so I can't go that route.

If anyone has any information worth passing on Intel motherboards (I've had a previous gaming rig with a basic desktop series Motherboard, solid as rock) that'd be great.

Thanks :)

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#5  Edited By Rawrrrson
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Heya. I've got a i5 2500k/intel extreme mobo so i've decided watercooling it still is worth it despite its age. If I ever upgrade I see no reason why I could not re-used the setup minus the cpu block. I hope to achieve 4.8ghz stable at 1.41 volts.

So this is the list I need..

Rad, res, pump, tubes, sockets/connectors. Also need to "kill the psu" to not turn on windows and just make fluid flow. Also need coil-wire for the res since I'll be getting a long res/pump combo.

I should do a leak test (is 24hrs really overkill.. can't a 1hr test be fine?). I will also be deciding between either some EK blue fluid or use disittled water + blue food colouring depending on what works better (less gunk).

The Rad will be 240mm if I feel ballsy enough to fit it in a 230t corsair but I'm not sure if that's a wise decision re-stability. The Rad will possibly** be hitting 360mm if I go for Phanteks Enthoo series.

Example 230t

Am I missing anything, does this sound right? Thanks

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#7 Rawrrrson
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8800gts 320mb. Loved the card for a period.. even tho it was a gutted g92 core
then to a 4870 (long story) which lasted me foreverrrrrr..
until my 560ti in 2014 second hand
Soon to be buying an r9 3xx series

Never liked this 560ti/8800gts, AMD from here on out

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#8 Rawrrrson
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Hey guys.
I have made a few small upgrades to my rig, to allow crossfire/sli, hardcore overclocking and no more SSD issues. Now I want to see what in the core needs to be swapped out.

i5 2500k with an Intel Extreme Series dz86bc motherboard - which I do not see any justification to go to i7 4770k for gaming?.. feel free to prove me wrong
8gb DDR3 - might need 16gbs for new gen.?
560TI with Accelero Extreme plus2 cooler - waiting for 3rd gen AMD.
Corsair 260t case filled with fans, a wireless card, ssd and hdds.

I'm considering for 1080p/hardcore future proofing (as in no upgrades till 2017-19)..
Any r9 3xx with HBM
16GB DDR3
Watercooling kit by EK - lets me delay this CPUs lifespan.. don't think this 2500k is going anywhere soon.
A bigger case for potentially sneakily buying a second r9 3xx down the road.

Also one more thing... 1440p actually worth the headaches with making sure you've got the latest and greatest? Never gamed at above 1200p which i'm currently running.

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#9 Rawrrrson
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Heya.

Had a 9800GTX, decided for some fun. Put it from 675->800mhz in one go then straight down to 750mhz in half a second later. Using MSI (and yes have been hitting apply). Been making it do stupid things like flashing the BIOS 5 times before restarting.

Now in games/apps it runs purely at 10fps~, no more no higher, and its on 37c idle/60c load.

So is it fried or just an error..? Thanks

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#10 Rawrrrson
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Hi.

2500K, 4GB DDR3, ASrock p67 pro3, 1TB, GTX560ti.

I've got an Accelero Extreme Plus II GPU cooler, runs 20-40c tops when maxing out games. I can start in safemode on this machine but older or up-to date Nvidia drivers are installed it gives me a black screen and the monitor turns off (error is 0x0000016 - gpu stuff). So either my GPU is busted (which i doubt) or something is wrong with my software..?

CPU stress tested with P95, its fine. GPU tested with the fur test, crashed and error 0x0000016.

Tried Wxp/w7/w8.1, all errors with nvidia drivers.

Thanks