http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ps4-overtakes-xbox-one-in-amazon-pre-order-charts/0117015

for Discussion......

@geojf3

No backwards compatibility as far as I know.

@warhawk-geeby @DuskStrider @vegitossj7

Exactly MS is playing some dirty pool on the exclusives. Come see me on those exclusives when your internet is out and you want to play a game.

@GSGuy321

I gotta have both. Love my PC gaming but Consoles are my 1st love. PS4 and PC for me.

@nicolasetespqr @_Kindred_

exactly. you still are not required to get plus (although its a great service-why would you not want to). How is the price compared to Xbox live?

Interesting to see so many PC gamers really thinking about consoles. I for one game on both the PS and the PC. Best of both worlds. Was really going to consider MS this generation, but I really don't need another cable box and don't care for the always online. Also some of their alleged tactics such as paying devs not to promote PS4 content at E3 have really soured me on their console.

Anyway PS4 pre-ordered last night at 11:30pm. Here's hoping for a November release.

PS4 pre-ordered. Now I will wait for The Last of Us to be released on Fri.

@thequickshooter @DarkNeoBahamut Never had to pay b4 for online with Sony. Haven't heard any different rumors for PS4. I'll be getting the $499 version most likely as I have no need for 3D

Seeing pre-orders at Best Buy and Amazon are available for the new xbox. PS4 should be available say midnight after they announce their pricing? Must stay up late and resist the urge to sleep. Must pre-order new PS4!!!