PS4 supports used games and features no online check-in

Sony takes a shot at Microsoft during its E3 2013 conference.

Sony has confirmed that the PlayStation 4 will not require an online check-in and that Sony will impose no restrictions on trading in disc-based games.

Speaking during Sony's E3 2013 press conference, SCEA president Jack Tretton added that disc-based PlayStation 4 games will be able to be traded in at retail, sold to another person, lent to friends, or just kept forever.

The news positions Sony's PlayStation 4 in direct opposition to Microsoft's Xbox One, which requires a 24-hour check-in for all games and will restrict the sale of used games to selected retailers.

"I guess that's a good thing," said Tretton.

Following the announcement, Sony released a video to YouTube called the "Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video."

More to follow.

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CallousIW
CallousIW

im confused regarding disc-based used games..even if Sony "will impose no restrictions on trading in disc-based games", but publishers might still put restrictions on their games as the decision lies wif the publishers (to my knowledge) ...am i rite? anyone care to enlighten? how is this different from MS then?  

MrPlop
MrPlop

Its not just about used games but moves all game pricing out of the shops hands and into M$.  Instead of getting cheaper new games a few months after release, the prices will be kept at max by M$ for ages or forever even just like on LIVE or PSN not to undercut the retailers.

Jonathan Lahey
Jonathan Lahey

Screw USED games, I want it to be backwards compatible more than that!

CrazyFool319
CrazyFool319

Sony has never said there will be no restrictions, they have only made very basic broad sweeping statements in regards to all their policies.  Wait until they actually detail the stuff.  Xbox could easily say a lot of the same stuff as Sony has.  Xbox will allow lending, used games and all that.  The only thing that we know for sure is there is no 24 hour authentication period.  Other than that there are no real facts, just generalized statements with no real information.

Bob Bagnall
Bob Bagnall

Seems like a desperate ploy, I don't doubt don't Sony would stick it to the consumer if they were on top.. Oh wait, they have done previously.

William Eicks
William Eicks

I think Microsoft needs to give up they lost the technology war and sell out to Sony at a 50% discount of their stock price before their stock bottoms out and they go into bankruptcy !!!!!! ( LOL ) ( LMAO ) I told all the Xbox users that the End was coming !!!!! HA HA HA HA HA

FlashCharge
FlashCharge

This announcement has given gamers some hope that Sony is finally developing a console for gamers. I also heard that Sony was working on a method to allow gamers to play PS3 games on the PS4, if that is true, then my console choice is a no brainier.

reverendyates
reverendyates

Yes, bad grammar aside, I agree. I will not buy the Xbox None. At least that will save me money. Goodbye Microsoft.

pszone
pszone

Well look like Sony be out of the red  and looks like Xbox One wont be Xbox One no longer  in next couple years. I hope Dead Rising 3 be on ps4 next 2 years. Well think Xbox will go same with dreamcast did.  buying PS4 a lot people will so guess Xbox fans might sell there games to buy ps4.  PlayStation Forever .

bluespire1
bluespire1

thanks bought the killzone shadowfall bundle yesterday

TheTrueSensei
TheTrueSensei

Just read an article from a Microsoft spokesman who said that anyone who doesn't have a decent internet connection can keep the X360.

What an utter disgrace! This is typical of a company that has no interest in their consumer base anymore.

punisher70
punisher70

I have a 360( an only a 360) an a decent library an I will continue buying games because that's what I enjoy doing when i'm  trying to relax. I plan on keeping every game an not trading in any one  of my game's. Now I will NOT be buying a Xbox 1 for those of you who wish to be controlled an bullied by M$ to each his own. I was a big Ps2 fan it's to bad Sony was so expensive at  its Ps3 Launch( for me anyways) But the Ps4 is an awesome price an I have the freedom to buy new or used, to go on or off line or go on a trip with my ps4 an be able to play a game without problems. At least Sony is giving there loyal an new customers what they want. 

kamicolo
kamicolo

Haha, great vid!  But what does this means for security?  Doesn't Microsoft have online "check-ins" for security reasons.  Are there any possibilities for hacking or piracy on the PS4?  Remember the theoretical joy of the first gen PS3 - the Linux OS?

OldsToronado455
OldsToronado455

Sony, please take my money. Thank you.

-XBox fan for 10 years.

Jamie Bleakwail Bartee
Jamie Bleakwail Bartee

It makes me feel exactly the same way I feel about the PS3. Free online play (unlike xbox 360's monthly charge), but ultimately a piece of crap compared to XBOX 360.

Daryl Brooks
Daryl Brooks

Meh, just the lesser of two evils. There is an essential drawback to PS4 tho (well at least for me)...none of your digital content transfers over and Playstation Plus is mandatory for online play. Both consoles leave a bad taste in my mouth. I have a huge backlog of retail and digital PS3 games to finish before I even decide if I want to continue console gaming at this point.

Unfallen_Satan
Unfallen_Satan

This is great news. Publishers' adopting their own DRM is one thing; I can choose which games to buy. If even one game I want is playable on my own terms, this is the system for me.

Isa San
Isa San

Now this is a Console!

lilizblack
lilizblack

People you are forgetting one thing about used games. PS4 said to support used games but third-party publishers can choose to behave otherwise. Difference is  MS just killed itself by saying the console will not support used game instead of letting the publisher do the job. That would be a sneaky move from sony cause it wont be his fault but the publishers

TheTrueSensei
TheTrueSensei

I hate giving the Xbone such a hard time. I'm  an X360 fanboy. It's just that Microsoft have annoyed me so much!!!

cm94
cm94

@Jonathan Lahey We are not all rich. I can't afford all these games brand new. 

Tickerson
Tickerson

@Jonathan Lahey Keep your old system. Problem solved.

ughyoukids
ughyoukids

@FlashCharge it's too bad the publishers are the ones still putting out games. if MS is even partially successful with this, exclusives will flock to the platform in order to continue getting revenue from the used game market. that will fund better games. and sony will follow suit in a heartbeat. 

ccgod
ccgod

@kamicolo Its for spying and $$ grubbing everything seen and heard by the kinect is uploaded to the NSA.  And they had anti piracy for the 360 you couldn't play online and if you tried they shut down your xbox how is this soo much better??  

So you played a game 2 days ago inet goes down you try to put that game in sorry you can't play it.

M$ is saying you no longer own the game your just leasing it from them and it will always be theirs to control

I'm glad when I deploy all they'll have are PS4's because no inet means no xbox ones

TristanPR77
TristanPR77

@Daryl Brooks it was confirmed by Sony that your digital content will transfer to PS4, they say it at the conference. 

fbgbdk4
fbgbdk4

@Nicolas Leonardo And MS keeps trolling us all.

LittleSaintGoph
LittleSaintGoph

@lilizblack Makes no sense, there is nothing on the console that even allows it to function like MS.. The online check is to make sure the games are linked to your account and not sold etc. This isn't on PS4 so it can't happen. Common sense...................

chucknorris86
chucknorris86

@TheTrueSensei  I AM AN XBOX FAN, and last night I FELT SAD... when I saw that Sony said they were not using DRM or used games fees. All I could think was "How is this possible? WTF MS? ".... I WAS ABOUT to give up BUT TODAY I READ THIS: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/194126/On_PS4_DRM_measures_are_up_to_the_thirdparties.php


http://kotaku.com/third-party-publishers-will-have-final-say-on-used-game-512643240


SO Its not about MS or Sony saying one thing or another... its about Third prty PUBLISHERS... using DRM and used games fees... so SONY WILL END UP HAVING DRM AND USED GAMES FEES, cause publishers wil actually require that ... if you think that EA, ACTIVISION, bethesda etc, will profit on the XBOX with DRM and Used games, but wont on the PS4, KEEP DREAMING.

TheTrueSensei
TheTrueSensei

@MatrixGamer78 

It's not so much that Sony rocks, but more that Microsoft sucks ass with their greed.

It's amazing how many X360 fanboys (including myself) are now favouring the playstation 4.

Xbone = next Dreamcast?

ughyoukids
ughyoukids

@cm94 so wait until they're cheaper to buy them. when did getting games brand new become something people feel entitled to?

kouji03
kouji03

@TristanPR77 he does not have the time to look at legit info so he just trashes the console... just let him be ignorant

deathblow3
deathblow3

Is that what you call it because drm can code based just like windows and games do it now remember EA?

lilizblack
lilizblack

@TristanPR77 @lilizblack well im glad it was clarified. Online pass are not new anyways. Even the more reasons for a ps4 and there's no surprises behind.

wizardboyus
wizardboyus

@chucknorris86 @TheTrueSensei

"Don't get it right, just get it written."

- James Thurber

"Right now, on the PS3, publishers can choose to input online passes, or could theoretically toss in multiplayer features that require legitimate copies to work. Publishers can also choose whether or not to region-lock their discs -- most choose not to. Tretton is basically confirming all of that is still possible. 

The major difference between PS4 and Xbox One, of course, is that Sony hasn't made it easierfor corporations to control the behavior of their customers, because the PS4 doesn't tie your copies to your accounts, or initiate checks to scrub traded game data off your system. Basically, Microsoft designed the Xbox One to make it as easy as flipping a switch to eradicate any possibility of sharing your games, while Sony is maintaining its policy of this current generation. "

-Destructoid article 8 hrs ago

Argle
Argle

@chucknorris86 @TheTrueSensei very true, and thats why im going the PC route this gen.  if i had to choose a console, though, it would still be the PS4.  no online check-in, easily share games, no creepy kinect, less dude-bro emphasis, its cheaper

TheTrueSensei
TheTrueSensei

@chucknorris86 @TheTrueSensei 

Exactly, Sony have put the emphasis on the publisher to impose these measures. Xbox have put the ridiculous 24 hour online authentication thing in. In the UK we have loads of people without broadband- so they can't have an Xbone. WTF??

That sort of thing has nothing to do with anything other than Microsoft's greed and control.

A Kinect that HAS to be connected and is listening all of the time? That is beyond unacceptable.

When playstation 4 becomes a powerhouse, it'll dictate to publishers that they can't impose DRM restrictions.

chucknorris86
chucknorris86

@Argle @chucknorris86 @TheTrueSensei   I'm not trying to blindly defend something that everybody knows that sucks. All I am trying to do is actually know as much as I can before deciding. Yes, I love my 360, and I actually like more the design of the x1 allong with the controller. 

But:

1. Yes, kinect kinda sucks, when used to completely play games (except kids games maybe) but that whole point of "spying, etc" is just stupid. While it has to be attached to the console you can turn it off, and it will require you to accept data sharing online, so if you dont want to share anything about you its ok. 

2. The online check-in every 24 hrs SUCKS, yep. BUT maybe, and just MAYBE M$ changes this, having in mind that things like these can be changed via an update, etc. 

I still refuse to believe that M$ is as stupid as it now seems, not when investing billions of dollars. Sony is just looking too much as a "gaming saint" ...maybe there are many things behind.