it's called perspective.

Still think this series peaked with SR2, since then they've gone far too OTT with superpowers and fantasy type factions, it was better when it was just a less serious GTA.

my point is that Forza 5 was not the best looking game at E3 at all

xboxiphoneps3

You seem to be confusing "best looking" with what's technically more advanced. You can have as many graphical effects as you like, it doesn't guarantee a game will look superior. In fact you may just waste time and resources getting the game to run those effects with little visual benefit, i can see Drive Club being a perfect example of this, where as something like Need for Speed Rivals will probably end up actually looking better.

I bet you'd be singing a different tune had PS4 and X1 specs reversed. 

Sagemode87

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

ugh, why do you people keep feeding this idiot? he's obviously desperate for the PS4 to be more powerful, which it is, so he's obviously going to spend the next couple of years posting the exact same flop numbers and celebrating every time there's any indication the Xbone is less powerful, there's nothing you can do about it, so just let him indulge in his pointless obsession on his own. He really doesnt need any help.

casharmy

If he is right about the PS4 being more powerful than x1, which you say it is, then aren't the people arguing against him the idiots?  

lol takes a good bit of bias to try to say he is obsessed when the people arguing seem to be the ones who can't accept facts and are admitedly wrong.

The thing people seem to be overlooking is the fact MS have screwed up the Xbone launch so badly that its sales will be significantly lower than the PS4, they now also have no established fan base, meaning its less likely devs will prioritize their console as the lead platform, this will probably have more of an impact on the quality of what will most likely be many PS4 ports rather than just because of having slightly weaker hardware.

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

So i'd get used to threads about how the PS4 version of every single multiplat completely blows away the XB1 version, and daily threads where cows can reassure each other and more importantly inform the world that Sony have finally given them the more powerful system.

double_a73

In Cows' defense, they had to endure the very same from Lems last gen.  SW's hypocrisy goes both ways my friend

ugh, why do you people keep feeding this idiot? he's obviously desperate for the PS4 to be more powerful, which it is, so he's obviously going to spend the next couple of years posting the exact same flop numbers and celebrating every time there's any indication the Xbone is less powerful, there's nothing you can do about it, so just let him indulge in his pointless obsession on his own. He really doesnt need any help.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

700Gflosp small.?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/549?vs=536

A lesser gap in flops is actually capable of delivering this kind of difference.

1.28Tf vs 1.76TF

1.28 TF is actually more than the usable power the xbox one has which is like 1.18,and 1.76TF is actually less power than the PS4 GPU has which is 1.84,how can people pretend is nothing is beyond logic,the PS4 should be faster in all scenarios,that means the more the graphics are push the more likely that the PS4 is able to hold at least 30 FPS while the xbox one will lag behind with like 20 or lower,so in order to keep those 30FPS the xbox one version will have to give up resolution for frames so yeah sub 1080p or drop AA or lower details there is no scaping it.

StormyJoe

I have called you out on this several times, Tormentos. You even admittedthe PS4 is not going to blow away the XB1.

20-30% performance difference is not that significant. Look at the PS2 vs XBox.

Stop being such a fanboy.

Bare in mind Tormentos (and a lot of other cows) spent the last generation stewing and crying themselves to sleep because the console they desperately wanted (and had practically already declared) to be by far the more powerful ended up not being so. Now Sony have righted that wrong i wouldn't expect anything other than even more hyperbolic and obsessive behaviour regarding graphics.

So i'd get used to threads about how the PS4 version of every single multiplat completely blows away the XB1 version, and daily threads where cows can reassure each other and more importantly inform the world that Sony have finally given them the more powerful system.

The two most obvious that come to mind are 

- As you said load location interiors nearby to remove loading times (yes i know it'll hog resources), i mean how much longer can they get away with buildings not having freaking windows? This could also allow more immersive experience with buildings; breaking in through doors/windows, building destruction in general ect.

- Sword/Shield Combat still really needs an overhall (lol at all the comments on this), maybe attack/block/parry could be aiming and timing specific, with actual combat styles for various weapons? It needs to feel like the weapons are actually lethal regardless of how powerful the weapon is or how adept the person holding it is, where you're actually having to react, rather than just holding block whilst vaguely looking at an enemy or just swinging at them and ignoring if they attack or not. The combat needs to be about landing one or two good hits (and avoiding your enemy doing the same) rather than just swinging and constantly hitting an enemy (and them hitting you) seemingly without result.

Also

- Allow me to type my own dialogue! 

- More customization with Armor; as in different designs on various armor parts, rather than just armor types that all look the same, let me forge/engrave my own.

- Proper battles with multiple NPCs on both sides

- Actual pirate ships/crew and navel battles/pillaging, yeah ripped straight out of Assassins Creed. 

- More Races with more unique characteristics.

- More ways to travel.

I'd like to think it's more likely to silence the people ridiculously hyping it, except even when its showcased in all it's generic underwhelming glory, certain people will still be hyping its meaningless list of graphical features...oh and claiming it's still not finished yet.