Why is it that Halo 3 ALWAYS appears in any thread with the word "overrated" in it?

Anyway: video games right now are going through a puberty of sorts. Games are growing at an incredibly fast rate right now. GTA IV came out and did some things that were so good, they transcended what we expect. Although it had flaws, it goes beyond its era to a degree. It may be flawed, but it's still better than anything out there and 9.5 just doesn't describe how great it is. I've never played GTA IV, but this is my understanding. It would be one thing if only Gamespot had said 10, but nearly everbody said 10 and I support them.

Who is your all-time favorite composer? It can be anyone from Mozart to John Williams.

I am very big fan of Rachmaninov.

Hold on.... I'm getting an summary off summaries.com...

It says: "I'm a fanboy. PS3 is a nice blu-ray player. Just Wait"

Nah, nah I kid! I kid!

"- Harder to reach Start and Back buttons

- Shoulder buttons not as convenient

- "Xbox 360 Controller" isn't fun to say"

First: WHAT? If you say you have big hands, you should reach them perfectly fine! I have absolutely no problems with this.

Secondly: Not as convenient? I don't get that. Also, at least the Xbox shoulder buttons wont get stuck like my previous DS2 controllers did.

Third: It isn't fun to say? Totally irrelevant. Plus, I just call it the 360 controller :P

wapahala

Yep. Isn't fun to say is totally irrelevant. It does not affect gameplay whatsoever. I do wish it would have a nicer name though. Dualshock just sounds cool. How about... Controller-T (T comes after S, I'm referring to the old Xbox "Controller-S", in case you didn't know)

[QUOTE="darthzew"]

Debate of the day.

Let's compare:

Xbox 360 Controller

PRO:

- Comfortable design with easy to reach buttons

- Excellent placement of thumbsticks that are very comfortable

- Looks nice and comes in a variety of colors

- Triggers best for shooters, racers, and flight sims (AC6)

- Controller is sturdier

CON:

- Awful D-pad

- Harder to reach Start and Back buttons

- Shoulder buttons not as convenient

- "Xbox 360 Controller" isn't fun to say

- Requires regular battery purchase or that you buy a play and charge kit

Dualshock 3:

PRO:

- Easy to pick up and play design that anyone can use

- Controller is standardized and there aren't many games that it isn't good for

- Better D-pad

- Has basic motion sensing, leaving room for lots of fun things to come

- Built in recheargeable battery

CON:

- Only comes in black and white, and looks just like previous Dualshock designs, giving it a last-gen feel

- Your fingers tend to float off the thumbsticks

- "Triggers" aren't quite as nice

- Larger hands (such as mine) have trouble with their small fingers staying on the controller

- "Home" button isn't as easy to reach as the Xbox Guide button

- Motion sensing gets in the way in some games, not all like it there

That's all I cold think of for now, I put more cons on the Dualshock 3 but some cons have less value than others. I tried my best to be as neutral as possible. As for my own opinion, I'm lenient on the 360 controller. Give me your opinion and share more pros and cons!

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I'll be editing this as we go, in case I missed any

sts9kid

Wow, what a dumb thread. The controllers are nearly identical, closer than any other generation IMHO. Somehow, people still feel the need to argue their opinions as if they are fact.

The worst thing this thread does is it doesn't even take into consideration the objective differences between the controllers. Instead, it focuses on antecdotal evidence and opinions to form the "pro" and "con". Of course, there is no mention of how the DS3 has a rechargable battery. There is no mention of the differences between RF/BT. All the other differences are subjective, and you can't really place them as a "con" or a "pro" because they are different for every person.

Owned (see underlined, bold, and italicized portions in the quote above)

[QUOTE="darthzew"]

[QUOTE="bluntmastaslaya"]ALSO, i dont see how "Easy to pick up and play design that anyone can use" is a pro for DS but not the 360 controller. i dont see how the DS is more of a pick up and play design than the 360 controllerbluntmastaslaya

It's a bit more practical for some games, especially simpler ones. And if you aren't "thumbstick trained", then the DS3 is a better choice.

how? what about the DS makes it more practical? both have two thumbsticks, 4 action buttons, 2 triggers, 2 bumper buttons, D pad, ect... and what do you mean by "thumbstick trained"?

When thumbsticks first came out, very few knew how to really use them. Not even developers had quite mastered them. Anybody, however, can use a d-pad. The shapes are also a bit friendlier and easier to read. This applies more to simpler games, as I said. Let's say, what I meant more was that it was better and more inviting for newer gamers.

ALSO, i dont see how "Easy to pick up and play design that anyone can use" is a pro for DS but not the 360 controller. i dont see how the DS is more of a pick up and play design than the 360 controllerbluntmastaslaya

It's a bit more practical for some games, especially simpler ones. And if you aren't "thumbstick trained", then the DS3 is a better choice.

I like the DS3 mainly because its the most familiar to me. We could all debate this until the rapture, its a preference thing.Lo_Rising

Of course it is! But it's still fun to debate as long as things don't get out of hand. I enjoy debating the things I love, it makes me appreciate them more having to defend them. Video games is one of them.

I live in Brazil and people here HATE Bush to death. There were protests everywhere and signs like these were hung up all over the city of Sao Paulo (2nd largest city in the world):

For those wondering, no this is not the actual poster. It's just what I found on photobucket that had a passing resemblance. But being an American and seeing your leader mocked up like that all over really makes your blood boil... If you aren't American, just imagine your own prime minister or president with a Hitler mustache on flyers all over some foreign country.

Debate of the day.

Let's compare:

Xbox 360 Controller

PRO:

- Comfortable design with easy to reach buttons

- Excellent placement of thumbsticks that are very comfortable

- Looks nice and comes in a variety of colors

- Triggers best for shooters, racers, and flight sims (AC6)

- Controller is sturdier

CON:

- Awful D-pad

- Harder to reach Start and Back buttons

- Shoulder buttons not as convenient

- "Xbox 360 Controller" isn't fun to say

- Requires regular battery purchase or that you buy a play and charge kit

Dualshock 3:

PRO:

- Easy to pick up and play design that anyone can use

- Controller is standardized and there aren't many games that it isn't good for

- Better D-pad

- Has basic motion sensing, leaving room for lots of fun things to come

- Built in recheargeable battery

CON:

- Only comes in black and white, and looks just like previous Dualshock designs, giving it a last-gen feel

- Your fingers tend to float off the thumbsticks

- "Triggers" aren't quite as nice

- Larger hands (such as mine) have trouble with their small fingers staying on the controller

- "Home" button isn't as easy to reach as the Xbox Guide button

- Motion sensing gets in the way in some games, not all like it there

That's all I cold think of for now, I put more cons on the Dualshock 3 but some cons have less value than others. I tried my best to be as neutral as possible. As for my own opinion, I'm lenient on the 360 controller. Give me your opinion and share more pros and cons!

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I'll be editing this as we go, in case I missed any