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#1 Spartan809
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I mean other than maybe C&C, Sins of Solar Empire, Civilization, or Europa Universalis, (which I'm not interested in any of 'em) what other good RTS'were released for 2008?

I find C&C as one of those "collect resources and train troops as fast as you can" games, which I dismissed after my disappointment of AOE3. Then I played Total War, and CoH, and I saw the light.

Anyway back to topic... the only RTS game I bought this year was the Medieval 2: Total War Gold Edition. (Which doesn't count) So, anyone else pretty bored for RTS' this year?

BTW can't wait for Empire: Total War, which would have spiced up 2008... if it wasn't delayed to Mar. 09.

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Rock Revolution for the Wii. http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/puzzle/rockrevolution/news.html?sid=6201179&mode=news The game sold only 2 units for the Wii in October, and is still out of stock.
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Have people gone insane and forgotten what a sequel is? 1.5 would denote that they just took the exact same game and levels and just added a couple of extra levels. Examples of a half-sequel are games like Ninja Gaiden Black or SSX tricky. Gears of War 2 takes place later in the time line, has a completely new set of levels, different story, new characters, new weapons, etc.

If we're going to say that gears 2 isn't a real sequel by this screwed up logic, then let's apply it to other games as well: Fallout 3 isn't a real sequel, it's just oblivion with guns, Mass Effect isn't a new game, it's just KOTOR with a voiced protagonist, Grand Theft Auto 4 is just like the 3 previous GTA games but with nicer graphics, Resistance 2 is just resistance 1 with new levels, Fable 2 is just fable with guns and bigger areas, and so on and so forth.

If you thought those statements sounded stupid, I totally agree, but referring to gears 2 as being gears 1.5 is equally as stupid.

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Perhaps your standards for a "true sequel" is lower than mine. You are definitely right about games like Ninja Gaiden Black a real "1.5" game, but as some people see it, the game hardly does anything new, and merely expands upon the first game.

What a lot of people including me consider in a "true" sequel is a game with at least a new feature, rather than just a new story. Games like Fallout 3, GTA4, Resistance 2, Fable 2, add at least one new feature than it's predecessor. A worthy feature are as such: new game engine, huge tweaking, etc. Some examples from games: huge NPC improvement, and new game engine in TESIV: Oblivion (coming from TESIII:Morrowind), or dual-weapon wielding, and XBOX Live in Halo 2 (coming from Halo).

Games like Gears 2, or Rainbow 6: Vegas 2, merely added new weapons, multiplayer maps/modes, new story, and did nothing else. Merely EXPAND. I find them as disappointments as they should be called stand-alone EXPANSION games. The only reason they would call it a sequel would be a new story, and nothing else. They should be called stand-alone EXPANSION games, and should sold for 10/20$ less, because face it, do you think you should pay 60/50$ for a new story and nothing else? Did you get enough "bang" for your buck?

Now, a perfect example of a game that did the same as Vegas 2, or Gears 2, in just adding a new story, multiplayer maps/modes, weapons etc. BUT sold well and wasn't a disappointment was Crysis: Warhead. The game merely EXPANDED from the original Crysis in adding new things such as a NEW STORY. They called it a "stand-alone expansion" game, and they sold it for much cheaper than the original game. The game sold well, and people didn't find it a disappointment because people KNEW not to expect a whole different game. Which is why Gamespot as well doesn't recieve it as disappointing. Now, if they have called Crysis: Warhead, Crysis 2 instead, and sold for the average $50/60 there would have been a lot of hell to pay. Call of Duty: World at War, is another good example, but not sold at a lower price.

What I'm trying to say is that games like Vegas 2, and Gears 2 should have been released as a stand-alone expansion game, which a lot of console games don't do, and people would rather sell it at the normal $50/60 and call it a sequel, than call it a stand-alone $40/50 game.

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Just wondering, why do you guys Kingdom Hearts?? I LOVE that game. For me it's: Gears of War. IMO one of the most overrated games I've ever seen.
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COD: WAW by a long shot.
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Hey there; a really good mod is Europa Barborum. Check it out: http://www.europabarbarorum.com/ It is the most historical accurate RTW mod to date, and adds so many features to the game. There so many things to say about this mod, but I can't really think of any now because I uninstalled RTW quite a while ago, and stuck with playing M2TW.
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I like it way better than Magic & Might, but I still prefer games like Conquer & Command. litewo
Lmao I just got it =D You mean Mount&Blade right? I've been playing that game since it's early betas, and so when I started playing the final version, it kept me occupied for about a week. Good game, worth getting. However the presentation isn't good, so you'll probably have problems on where to start, since this is a sandbox game.
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Usually Target, Circuit City, Best Buy, or Gamestop, but it really doesn't matter to me, any retail store will do. I usually stay away from downloading games. Not only my internet fast enough, but also I hear a lot of problems from downloading games.
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Barack Obama was elected =O
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Because if you played Crysis and Warhead all the way through and weren't impressed by graphics then you'd never ever talk about being impressed by graphics period. Only sty1e and art direction. Crysis is the best looking game out to date end of discussion.

To see all these Doom 3 pictures is indeed laughable imo. My Geforece 4 MMX Mobile 32MB can run Doom 3.lowe0

I suppose it's possible that nothing will ever impress me again, but I doubt it. Whatever it is that knocked you people out about Crysis, I simply don't see it.

If you play Crysis, then you will see what knocked us out.