no where near worth the price, they gave you a %15 smaller screen, made the controls even worse, no touch screen while it's collapsed, and no physical media, plus, they upped the price by $80. Horrible. It's got a bit of a cool factor going for it, but that's it.

Plus, you know it's going to be yesterday's garbage before you know it. Sony has now done this crap 3 straight years, bring out a brand new model PSP, and act like it's the next coming of god. Hell, there are already rumors of the true PSP 2 being ready by next E3, so I can't in good consious say the Go is worth it or that I will buy one.

If it had a 5 inch screen, a touchscreen, 2 thumbsticks and a 32 GB Hardrive, then yes, I would have bought one.

It never will be "IN" the 360, that would force MS to pay Sony a technology licensing fee for every single Xbox 360 that rolls off the line. Plus, no current Blu Ray drive that would be remotely affordable can read information fast enough to stream data off the regular DVD game discs for 360 games, and because there are millions and millions of consoles out there already, MS cannot all of a sudden start producing Blu Ray games instead of DVD media.

It's been discussed that there may be an arrangement where MS would sell an officially licensed Blu Ray drive for the 360, but it will be external like the HD DVD drive was. That's all that will happen with it, if that even happens.

If you have the time, there has recently been a 4 disc special edition pack with the entire first 3 games released for PS2, and it's only 30 bucks. If you have a PS2 or a PS3 with BC, you can cheaply play the entire series so far, and find out how well you like the games and learn all the backstory. Again, if you have the time.

That's what I did, I was planning to to buy the 3 disc collectors edition of DMC 4, but I figured I would pick up the first 3 and give myself a chance to learn the series, and even if I hate them, I still saved myself 50 bucks compared to shelling out the 80 for the CE of DMC 4. I haven't had time to get into any of them yet though.

Not a chance, especially with the failure rate of the system, I make very good money, and money is no object for me, but I refuse to waste 400 bucks or more on a console I don't have a use for outside of when my primary 360 dies. I've gotPS3 and a Wii though, so I understand not everyone is that fortunate, but I still can't see it,

I know what it's like too, because my Elite just blew up it's DVD drive 2 weeks ago, and I'm without a 360 right now, with a crapload of great games I was looking forward to playing over the Holidays with my time off.

I wouldn't say I never would though, just not now. Maybe in another 18 months when every console has the planned Jasper 45 nm CPU 65nm GPU motherboard, and maybe those new DVD drives that are rumored (not HD DVD, just stronger and quieter DVD drives), after that there will likely be yet another price cut, and maybe then the price and reliablity will be to a point where I wouldn't mind picking up a second console just for whatever reason, even if it's just for an odd LAN party or emergency console.

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]no, I have a hdmi port premium and I don't have the falcon, but it is different than the original, cus the power supply is different since it has only 2 prongs instead of three for the plug, but its not a 175W like the falcon.wezzybrems

ah ok...so are those improved hdmi premiums (but not yet falcons) pretty safe when it come to RROD?

They are calling that power supply gen 3, but it's not really any different internally than the other ones, they just got rid of the ground prong to save costs and since they probably didn't feel they needed it. BTW, not all Falcons are 175 W, there are a number of them that are 203 still, but if you see one that is 175, it is 100% a Falcon.

No, the HDMI premiums are not any safer when it comes to RRoD, they are using the Zephyr board that the launch Elites used, it has a few upgrades, and a layer of epoxy on the GPU and CPU to keep down RRoD failures caused by heat warpage, but it's a stopgap solution that didn't really work. I've seen 2 launch Elites die with RRoD, and I have a launch Elite that just had the horrible Hitachi disc drive fail on it after only 7 months, and now I'm sitting here on my 3rd week without a 360.

The Falcon is the only board that has finally got some parts on it to address some of the 360s reliablity concerns, and they also feature a much higher rate of using the BenQ and MS28 Toshiba drives which are much better units. Everything before Falcon is petty half assed attempts to fix the issue at best, Falcon atleast makes some serious strides, and hopefully Jasper will finish the job. Bottom line is, no 360 is at a low enough risk for RRoD, not yet, even Falcon's can fail.

No, not all premiums with HDMI are promised to be Falcons. Your taking a big risk if your planning on getting a Falcon via import. They have only been in production for about 8 or 9 weeks. So any console made before that, in any model is a fact it will NOT be a Falcon. So unless you can for certain get one made since then, you have no chance at all.

The fact is, even if you get one made after that date, not all 360s are Falcons, not by a long shot. About a third of the Limited Edition Halo 3 360s got the Falcon board, after that, priority went to consoles that already had HDMI, (there was a production reason, but I forget why)So the Elites got the highest percentage Falcon install rate after that, then the HDMI premiums, and then the HDMI Arade systems.

Some people believe that after september xx that all consoles where built with the Falcon board, but that isn't true. Depending on the team that built it and the lot number of that model of the 360, it all phased in at different rates, there is not even close to a hard date when all models started using Falcon boards. Supposedly now, all 3 models of 360 are only being built with the Falcon boards, so as time goes on, chances will improve to 100%, and then in another 10- 14 months, the cycle will start all over again when the Jasper with it's 65nm GPU and 45nm CPU starts rolling out.

Good luck though whatever you end up doing, but don't expect a Falcon if your importing a 360.

Well there are 2 things you can do, one is to get a DVD laser cleaner disc, and run that through, but make sure you try and find one that is designed for gaming systems, as certain types can just scratch the laser eye. You can also get a bottle of compressed air for cleaning computer cases and such, but make sure it's moistureless air, and not some cheap leaky crap. Just open up the disc drive tray, and stick the nozzle in a couple inches and give it a few gentle blasts of air.

Both of these tricks really only work if it's a dusted up laser or some other dirty internal component that isn't working correctly because of internal dust buildup. If you don't have an older console and or you don't live in a dusty house or area, it's not all that likey that that's the problem. There is also a small risk of doing more damage than good since an improper cleanser disc can damage the laser, and if your not careful with the compressed air, you could potentially do internal damage to the 360.

However, if it's not reading discs anyway, it doesn't really matter if you brick the system by trying either one of these, and niether one requires you to open up the case of the console, so they don't void the warranty.

My Elite just lost it's disc drive, so I know your friends pain, and I was told it would be an extra long wait from MS, so I'm currently on week 3 without a console while I wait for Best Buy to get more in stock so I can use my PRP and get a new Elite.

Okay, yeah, that is the problem. I'm on 360 #3 right now and hopefully won't have to use my extended warranty I got when I bought it anymore. Anyway, is there anyway around this problem that anyone knows of. It's really irritating.Rasskal33

There is no way around it, at all. It is part of the infastructure of the console's firmware and the games code.It was designed to make it virtually impossible to illegally copy content off of Live. There is nothing you can buy or do to get around it.

I don't know of one, but there may be a way if your willing to illegally hack your system and risk getting it and yourself permantly thrown off of having access to Live and the Marketplace, but that isn't even close to worth it, and you can risk permantly damaging your system with certain hacks anyway.

i hardly believe that the PS3 will be better then the 360.Yeah sure the ps3 has some great games coming in 08 but the 360 will have gears 2,kingdom under fire,Halo wars,project offset,infinate undiscovery and a lot morenatsirt67

I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you, but just wanted to point out, that Project Offset is also going to be on the PS3, and that Kingdom Under Fire is also on PC, and Gears 2 has not been confirmed as a 2008 title, it could easily be a 2009 game. Just so your better educated there.