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#1 SaintLeonidas
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@EPICCOMMANDER said:
@Crossel777 said:

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Okay, so let me get this straight. A highly trained co-pilot that is considered to be a perfectly normal, sane and friendly by those around him one day decides that his life isn't worth a damn, so let's end it! Now, he had many options available to him to end his miserable sorry existence. Let us try to comprehend the option he took.

This guy went to work, boarded a plane with 150 passengers, and waited for the opportune moment for his captain to leave the cockpit. Immediately, he decided to flick the switch to put the security door on complete lock-down mode, then proceeded to put the plane in full descent, all the while his captain is trying to bash the door down. 8 minutes later, everyone on board is obliterated. With all that said, am I supposed to believe that this guy had no idea what he was doing? Had no idea of consequences of his actions? Was not trying to instill fear into the world by killing all of those people? This guy was clearly aware of what he was doing. There is no doubt about that. Sure, he may have had mental issues but it could easily be argued that Mr jihadist suicide bomber also has mental issues.

Occam's razor would suggest a temporary episode of psychosis brought on by his depression. Of course, this would require him to have severe depression which is more than what people have said he had, but it's a far more simple conclusion than calling it an act of terrorism.

Exactly. The assumption that people suffering from depression, who get so bad as to kill themselves, are aware of what they are doing - or able to stop themselves from doing it - shows how much ignorance still surrounds the illness. Many people who kill themselves are at total peace at the moment. Given the description of the co-pilot's illness - and the way in which he was totally silent and breathing normally when he took over the plane - supports this.

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#3  Edited By SaintLeonidas
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After the pile of shit that was 'The Voices', I will never again be excited - or even have interest - in another Ryan Reynolds film. So, meh.

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@Crossel777 said:

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I don't care how depressed or suicidal he was, he's a rotten to the core, scum bag terrorist for choosing to take 150 people to their deaths along with him. There is no pity for this man. All will remember him as a terrorist. We can only hope that there is a place called hell for people like this.

"Terrorist"...I don't think you know what that word - or terrorism - means.

Terrorism

1.systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve some goal

2.the act of terrorizing

3.the state of being terrorized

Fits the bill perfectly if you ask me.

Not exactly sure how the lone act of an mentally ill individual fits the bill of a terrorist act. He did not appear to be doing this for any philosophical or political agenda. There is no evidence of the deliberate intent to strike fear in the lives of others. Also, his actions don't leave any reason for people going forward to fear another attack. By your definition - a guy simply committing a homicide would also be a terrorist.

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@Crossel777 said:

I don't care how depressed or suicidal he was, he's a rotten to the core, scum bag terrorist for choosing to take 150 people to their deaths along with him. There is no pity for this man. All will remember him as a terrorist. We can only hope that there is a place called hell for people like this.

"Terrorist"...I don't think you know what that word - or terrorism - means.

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@Riverwolf007 said:

india was all, "y'know, rape is really taking a beating in the press these days, what can we do to bring back the respect rape had a decade ago?"

"i know! thrones adaption!"

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#7 SaintLeonidas
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Surprised it took this long for someone to finally post this.

My thoughts as well.

One can only wonder what was going through that man's head. Was his intention to commit suicide with a blast, making a (horrible) difference in the world? There's still much to look into regarding his motives and actions.

Reports coming in say he had an undisclosed illness. Possibly depression which led to suicide - or maybe a terminal illness. Still a lot yet unknown.

It still doesn't expain why he decided to take all those people down with him. I can only guess that severe depression(or the impending death of a terminal disease) had maddened him in such a way that he decided to commit homicide on top of suicide.

Most people who commit suicide due to an illness have little awareness of their actions - or a level of apathy that makes them not care. If it was suicide, odds are he felt he was in a position to do it and his calmness make one think he was focused only of his own death.

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#8  Edited By SaintLeonidas
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Apathy is easily the worst part of depression. Any sadness or pain you feel is only made worse when you are unable to do things you enjoy to offset them. But recognition of this is the first step to getting better. The next time you want to do something but feel unmotivated, remember that this apathy is why, and try your best to will yourself into doing whatever it was you wanted to do. Once you do this a few times, get back into the normal groove of your life, and find enjoyment in things, then it gets a whole lot easier. This isn't always easy, but being conscious of a subconscious illness makes dealing with unexplainable symptoms all the easier. One reason why people with symptoms of depression should never keep it to themselves.

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#9  Edited By SaintLeonidas
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@johnd13 said:

@SaintLeonidas said:

Surprised it took this long for someone to finally post this.

My thoughts as well.

One can only wonder what was going through that man's head. Was his intention to commit suicide with a blast, making a (horrible) difference in the world? There's still much to look into regarding his motives and actions.

Reports coming in say he had an undisclosed illness. Possibly depression which led to suicide - or maybe a terminal illness. Still a lot yet unknown.

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#10 SaintLeonidas
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Surprised it took this long for someone to finally post this. Couldn't believe it after the announcement. Description of the co-pilots demeanor before the crash - silent and normal breathing - makes my skin crawl.