Assuming I'm not excluded from the discussion, I think the game I have the most versions of would be the Sonic games. I have Sonic 3 & Knuckles for the Genesis, Saturn and PC, Sonic CD for the Sega CD, PC and Gamecube, and Sonic R for the Saturn PC and Gamecube. Aside from that, yeah I've tried tons of multiple versions for different systems, and that testing process resulted in Game Pilgrimage. Most recently, I discovered that the Genesis version of Alien 3 is almost nothing like the SNES game, which tries but fails to emulate the Arcade title which is actually the best of the three...
[QUOTE="waflerevolution"] it's because of 2 things. 1. Next gen is approching, nostolgia is at it's peek 2. younger people are now learning about segas past and the summer is the best time to play the games. after this holiday season the prices will go back down.
The last two years at this any time of year I couldn't get a Super NES for less than $60 off of e-bay before shipping, buy it now. Now there are over ten for less than $50 plus shipping. At the same time, I wasn't able to sell my Genesis 2 in two auctions asking for less than $20 shipped! Now I can't find an SMS or Genesis console for less than $45 plus shipping, and Sega CDs and 32X are $30-50 as well. It's definitely only the older Sega stuff that has gone up in value. I think the problem has been that Gamestop and EB had liquidated their older games and flooded the channel with cheap consoles and carts. Gmsnpr might be right as well in that everything comes back up in value eventually. N64 and DC are still dirt cheap online, so maybe they'll go back up in the next five years, who knows. Time will tell whether
I just hit e-bay for the first time in over a month to see if I could snag some idiot's Sega systems for pennies on the dollar. It turns out that everything seems very respectably priced now though. Did it finally happen? Are the days of Sega Genesis IIs selling (or not selling) for $5 finally over? I see Sega Master Systems, Genesis and Sega CD 2s for no less than $40 shipped, no Sega CD games for less than $25 shipped, a 32X going for $50 with cables, and no dearth of supply. Has anybody noticed this before and I just didn't know it was happening?
I would say that my favorite Sonic game is still Sonic 2. It's the only Genesis game to go over 61 colors (75 to be exact, in Mystic Ruin), it shows off with tons of parallax *and* two player split screen with a custom ultra high resolution, and it's got great level design which is really the staple of the Sonic series, combined with the speed.
Apart from that, I like Sonic Adventure and SA2 about equally, and far more than any other 3D adventure game or platformer. Sonic 3D blast on the Saturn has to be the most unimpressive Sonic game ever.
[QUOTE="falconclan"]Microsoft told me that moore was wrong and while BC wont be top priority anymore, they guarnteed me that all games would eventually be BC...
I wouldn't count on every game to be supported, but they *may* just listen to the people willing to take the time to write them and support those games which peole bother to mention to them.
This kind of thing happens every generation. When the PS1 started going strong, the resale market for 16-bit games took a dive. A friend of mine runs a game store and they had so many SNES systems traded in that they couldn't store them all and started blowing them out at $19.99 to free up space. Now the market has come back and they can't keep older systems on the shelf at $50. Gamestop/EB don't take PS1 or N64 games in for trade in my town, anymore b/c there is an overabundance and for the most part, they aren't worth much. Wait 3 years and the situation will reverse. PS2 games are going follow the same trend, and the Immersion lawsuit doesn't apply to the resale market. You should be able to find PS2 games and hardware for a long time, even if Sony is required to pull new stock.gmsnpr
That is, unless public perception of Sony as a company shifts like Sega's did after the Dreamcast. If the media goes back and actually informs the public of Sony's backhanded tendencies over the last 11 years, and if the PS3 ends up languishing on store shelves due to the $600 price tag and obvious lack of noticable hardware prowess, then the PS1+2 games will be in the same place Genesis titles are today. Cheap and unwanted by the fad loving public at large. Sega never outright dominated a market, other than Europe with the Sega Master System, though, so maybe $50 price tags for (working) PS2's ten years from now isn't totally out of the picture. ;)
cc to: backcomp@microsoft.com That's the e-mail address to hit up for why Jet Set Radio Future or Panzer Dragoon Orta aren't backward compatible on the Xbox 360. Let them know what you think about the Renderware using Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic Heroes being supported, but not the native GunValkyrie or the awesome Otogi 1+2. Point out that while The House of the Dead III is great, as is Sega GT 2002, Toe Jam & Earl III and Super Monkey Ball Deluxe deserve some love too. Sure, they have Need for Speed v1-v50, but where's Outrun 2 and 2006? Remind them Crazy Taxi 3, Headhunter Redemption, Iron Phoenix, Sega GT Online, and Spartan Total Warrior, are just as worthy of 720p goodness as Worms Forts: Under Siege is. Don't let wicked sales figures get the first *and* last laughs! I'm telling Microsoft that if the Xbox 360 doesn't support these titles, there's likely not going to be any room in my cabinet for it next to my hulking, monstrous, box full of bricks that is my original Xbox. Being able to play these titles in 480i is better than not at all.
[QUOTE="waflerevolution"]tough question... for home console, I go with TG-16 witch just needs love... and for portable I'd say wonderswan because it needed a US release but never got it...
The TG16 would be mine also, thought I'm not sure if obscure is the right word. The Turbo is one of the most popular consoles amongst gamers, and maintains a much higher resale value than any Sega system. Sure the masses don't know what it is, but what do they know?
I'll have to agree with gmsnpr and Wafler on this one. The PS1/PS2 have consistently disappointed me more than any other console of their generation. From framerate issues and low color textures alone I'd be disappointed, but with the mass market trash both systems are innundated with I can barely stand them today. I owned a PS1 from '97-99 and a PS2 from '01-'05, I've played all the games people talk about, plus a good number of the ones they don't. Still, sifting through hundreds of completely derivitive trash titles just to find a handful of gems spoiled the experience of what good games actually are on the systems. In truth, either the PS1 or PS2 easily have as many innovative quality titles as any other game system, but they pile ten pompous and vile marketing ploys on top of each of them, and that just burns me out. Controller wise, it's going to go to the Dual Shock and any other iteration of the Playstation controller design. From the "not-a-D-Pad' to the four face diamond design buttons, I've hated the whole idea since I first saw it, and I hate even more that it's affected every other controller design out there since. Hopefully the Wii controller will be copied as blatantly as previous Nintendo controllers have, and bring an end to the reign of the thing which should not be. Ultimately, I tend to hate anything, however good, which becomes a public sensation to the exclusion of other offerings in the same market. It simply doesn't make sense to pick game systems like football teams and root only for one for the rest of time. Everybody calling themselves "gamer" should have owned every console of each generation by now, and should always play the games developers come up with which try something new. As a casual amusement medium, consumers should at least shop for what they buy.
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