You clearly have no idea what you are talking about do you? The Wii is weaker than the original Xbox? Are you High? Sure it wasn't on par with the 360/PS3, but compare it to the original Xbox? Really dude? That is just dumb.
And yes the Gamecube was almost on par with the Xbox, in some ways it was even superior to it. If you DID YOUR RESEARCH you would know that the Cube was superior in texture rendering than the original Xbox, and if you compare multi platform releases there is not too much difference, in fact some Cube games were actually better looking. And by the way, the most visually impressive game on that generation was Resident Evil 4, a game that was far more technical and gorgeous than anything on the Xbox.
Check the sales charts. The Gamecube sold less than the Xbox and PS2. Doesn't mean it was the worst console, in my opinion it was the best from that generation.
And why can't a system be powerful and "gimmicky"? That is hardly a fact, it is just a personal opinion on your part that is far from the truth. Nintendo will not release a system with 6 year old tech, rest assured it will be quite powerful.
Why mention the PC hardware? Nothing will ever match that... You seem to be a little lost in your own arguments there?
Lol I love my Cube, but unfortunately that guy you mention seems to be oblivious to reality. It's easy enough to confirm what you say. I bet he's just trolling you! :)
I just mentioned Pokemon as an example of software still coming out for the DS and DSi. There are still games coming out, and you have all those games cheap to buy on the DSi Ware shop, there are some true gems over there and since you download the game, you don't have to pay the taxes you mention in your reply. It may be a cheaper option, so check it out if you want.
By now it is clear that the DSi and 3DS are different beasts. 3DS is the new generation, but what the DS left behind is a very large, memorable library of games. It seems from the way you replied that you thought the DSi was the new Nintendo handheld system, not just a re-design. If that was the case, it was unfortunate and you are right to be feel ripped of, but you cannot blame that on Nintendo.
Either way, it is just my opinion. I still play DSi a lot, including online on my original DSi not the 3DS. I find it more easy to play than the 3DS.
You mentioned The world ends with you, and if you like Rpg's or better yet, JRPG'S check out Kingdom hearts 358/2 days, or Kingdom Hearts RE:Coded. They are both really good, and you can find them on Ebay for about 20 dollars each.
It sucks you feel ripped off, but the system you ended up buying is still very much alive, at least for a few more months. It sucks that it's expensive to buy games where you live, so you should really consider importing like Joujou264 said. It may be a cheaper option.
No problem. What i meant with the upcoming Pokemon titles is that they are a DS release, which they are. They are developed for that hardware, and since the 3DS is backward compatible you can also play those games on it. But those specific games are made tailor fit for a previous generation of handheld, and you won't have a different experience playing them on the 3DS, so it's not like you need one to fully enjoy them.
I keep my 3DS handy for RE Revelations, Metal gear 3D, Dead or alive dimensions, Spirit camera, Ocarina 3D and Mario 3D land. When Pokemon comes out, i will enjoy it on my DSi, which is more comfortable to play in my opinion.
@joujou264 After a third update to existing hardware, anyone with a brain would know a substitute would be on the way in the short term, which was about 2 and a half years between DSi and the 3DS. Not too much time between them if you shelved money into it, and for some people that may be a problem. As much as i like Nintendo, 3 upgrades on the same product was pushing it, but somehow they managed to make all the DS models feel different, specially the DSi.
I did buy a DSi for it's features, namely the DSi ware shop, which has some truly great titles that you could not get anywhere else but a DSi since they were not released through retail. In that sense the DSi was more than worth it for me, and yes i prefer to play my DS games on the original hardware, not my bulky 3DS. Is that a problem? Your first comment is a bit of an insult to my intelligence. Everyone knows the 3DS is backward compatible, but a lot of people still prefer their DSi's to play DS software. just like me.
I think that it would depend on when exactly you bought your DSi. It still has games coming out for a few more months, due to it's large user base and steady sales, including the new Pokemon games that won't be coming out for the 3DS. So it is not a dead portable yet.
I still play on mine quite often, and i bought some of the newer releases like Aliens Infestation, a fantastic title that i recommend you pick up. Also The DS has one of the best game libraries of all time, and if you can't afford new games try the used market or try to import some cheap titles. Only DSi exclusive software is region locked, and trust me you have a lot to chose from to play with your "dead" portable.
You can't really blame Nintendo for paying the amount of money you did for their system. If you are online and try to keep up with gaming news, you should have known that the 3DS would be coming out soon, and the decision to spend the money was entirely yours. I would not feel that bad mate, like i said a few games still come out, and you are blessed with a huge game library, so the chances of finding something you will enjoy are high. I like my 3DS, but i still play my DSi more. If my DSi is not dead, why should yours be?
I personally believe that that the Wii U will be a beast of a system. It will more than likely be a powerful machine, since Nintendo has always built powerful hardware with the exception of the Wii ( which is not HD, but honestly the graphics are not bad in any way, and i got tired of Wii reviews saying crap like "not bad for Wii" , basing entire reviews on graphics without concentrating on the game play enough BAH).
I based my theory on their previous systems. SNES more powerful than Genesis, N64 more powerful than PSX and Saturn, Gamecube more powerful than PS2 and pretty much on par with Xbox... Wii was the exception due to lower than expected sales of the good old Cube (still my favorite system of all time), but in life's little ironies the Wii and DS sold so much that they can afford to make something the hardcore crowd will drool over. This is just a THEORY, but i think that based on how they made systems in the past, it is reasonable to assume they will come out with a powerful game machine. It would not make much sense to make hardware on par with the current generation right? It's 6 year old tech.
Now Nintendo, give me some GOOD 3rd party support and some Zelda HD!
Your response doesn't start in the best way, for yourself i mean.
Who are you to say who is a hardcore gamer or not? Who said a handheld gamer can't be hardcore? From that alone, it is obvious how short sided you are on your views. You do not have to clear anything like you say, because honestly i don't think you know what you are talking about. Out of curiosity, what is hardcore to you anyways? A Pc player? A console player? Handhelds are not serious gaming devices to you?
You are taking your personal views on this matter and making it seem you are the one in the right, but facts speak for themselves. The DS sold over 150 million units so far, the 3DS on it's first year is above 15 million and breaking the DS record for that time. You cannot say all of those players are casual players, because the first people to buy a system are HARDCORE gamers.The Vita is having a slow start, but it might pick up. Not bad for a dead market.
We are talking about dedicated gaming machines, so obviously phones sell more, but only a fraction of the people who buy them will use them for playing.
It's funny how you called me a minority, when in fact you are. Saying you find the same experience from a handheld on a phone, well i have to say you really are a minority on this.
The most laughable argument you presented though, is still the hardcore one. A handheld gamer is beneath a Pc gamer or a console gamer... That makes no sense at all. A person that enjoys games, regardless of what the platform is, can easily be considered hardcore, despite if it's a handheld or not.
I have a 360, a 1 month old Pc with plenty of steam games, a gamecube, a DS, an N64, a 3Ds and plenty of retro systems you probably have not even heard of. I Guarantee you, that even if i only played my DS, im more of an hardcore player than you will ever be.
I really do not agree with you, and your perspective to handheld gaming.
Having a game on a phone for casual play is ok, if that is your thing that is fine. But like you correctly pointed out, that market is for casual players only. The hardcore crowd does not play games on a phone the same way they do on a handheld, which has higher quality products, and truly satisfying experiences. That kind of experience you simply cannot have on a phone.
You are basing your opinion, and assumption that the handheld market is "doomed" based on casual players alone, ignoring the hardcore which, if the software is good, support whatever game machine they prefer, including handhelds. There is still market for those players, and from a business perspective, handhelds still( and will, in my opinion) make perfect sense.
You cannot compare the experience of playing a console like game on the go through a 3DS in full 3D, or with the Vita and the games it provides. It simply is not the same thing.
When you refer to handhelds being obsolete, well in my opinion you are dead wrong on that one. Name me a phone that can do 3D, or that provides the same experience a 3DS does, or a Vita does.
There are still people out there that don't care about games on phones, because the experience is short and shallow, and targeted to the casual gamer who is not interested in a better gaming experience.
A lot of players out there (like me, and im not a teenager anymore) do not want their dose of Angry birds, or any other games that get boring after a few minutes. We want the best experience possible on the go, with the same quality as on a console, and we will pay for it if the quality is there.
As long as there is hardcore players demanding quality and deep experiences on the go, in my opinion, handhelds won't go anywhere.
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