Wii U tablet controller revised?

New controller to boast actual analog sticks, Wii U branding, and various button location changes, according to image leaked by Lego developer.

Nintendo may be changing up its design plans for the Wii U tablet controller. As reported by GamesRadar, a Traveller's Tales (Lego series) quality assurance tester tweeted a picture of a Wii U tablet controller this weekend, revealing Nintendo has made some notable changes to the device since gamers first saw it at the 2011 Electronic Entertainment Expo.

Is Nintendo changing up its Wii U controller?

Most significantly, the image (at right) displays a Wii U controller with new analog sticks as opposed to the 3DS-style circle pads seen on the E3 prototype. Other alterations to the original design include a change in location of the Start and Select buttons. These buttons now are located on the right-hand side of the Wii U tablet controller. Additionally, the controller includes a small square on the left-hand side, which did not appear in the original version. Lastly, the new controller design contains Wii U branding.

As GamesRadar points out, it's possible some of these changes are specific to developers' console units. Whatever the case, Nintendo will offer answers soon. The company has previously stated it will have final Wii U hardware on hand for the 2012 Electronic Entertainment Expo, which kicks off early next month.

The official picture has since been yanked, and the user's Twitter account has been deleted entirely. A Nintendo representative told GameSpot, "We do not comment on rumors or speculation."

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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Raxyman
Raxyman

@gamerok123 Nintendo gave us fresh ideas a long time ago. I just think a tablet + controller is not innovating, is mixing existing technologies and hoping it'll turn out good. And besides, why do you people think Sony copied Nintendo? It's because the Move thing? Sony had a patent way before Nintendo considered making Wii, i'm not saying that Nintendo copied it, but in this case, both had normal ideas and thje true innovating was ...*sigh* i'm gonna have to credit "them"... Microsoft, argh. Kinect is the best in motion gaming, but there's no games to it, which is frustrating. You all are aware that Nintendo was the one who pissed Sony into gaming right? They asked for Sony's CD driver to be in N64, and when the project was nearly done they said to Sony "y'know what, you're asking too much of the profit cut, get you CD driver back and stick wherever you like", and Sony did, on Nintendo's highest rival... Sony made the analog stick and controller vibration if i'm not mistaken, so even though i think Sony is a bit agressive towards the consumer, it innovated, and i don't remeber them copying anything up.

glacierAF
glacierAF

Like the new design.  It will make the controls easier to reach, while still maintaining the "tablet" concept.  Don'tknow about NFC being away from the touch screen, but for possible credit card transactions or Google Wallet, it would work.  My only beef is the name.  The "Wii" brand has a bit of a stigma with core gamers who look at the Wii as a second-class gaming system primarily for children and the legitimate Nintendo fans.  Honestly, I'd like to see Nintendo dip into the copyright bin and pull out the development name for the Wii and make it the official brand of the new console. It would indeed be a Nntendo Revolution.

TCMOREIRA
TCMOREIRA

I want it to be possible multiple combinations of controllers. Like for example playing and MMORPG with wiimote(plus version of course) + nunchuck while having my tablet controller laying on the couch displaying my equipments,items,stats and skills, or even allowing me to chat with other people without having the TV screen full of text (or even chatting for real Skype style while playing). I also want it to be possible to have more than one tablet controller on a game. 

TCMOREIRA
TCMOREIRA

I also HIGHLY want Wii U controller to be completly tablet like portable. So I can play Zelda while doing you know what at the bathroom, or even play not console related games while anywhere else. Also, if the controller could have memory built into it (or an SD card slot+bluetooth), it could be a nicefull way to play my saved games on another friends Wii U console (or even carrying my miis wherever I go....).

TCMOREIRA
TCMOREIRA

I hope they put extra buttons on it. Also PLEASE: A MULTITOUCH SCREEN!!!. (I also hope the buttons at the back of the controller works the same as xbox 360/dreamcast controller)

ilantis
ilantis

Very good questions. Anyway, personally I think that the whole idea of the wii u is just so confusing and not even a bit exciting. It looks stupid. Please don't kill me

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lisatoucan
lisatoucan

Well, I guess it's a lot more better and much  improved version. But if you want to check more of it I guess you should have personally inquired the manufacturer about it.

firstclassgamer
firstclassgamer

Can anyone tell me if the WiiU is backwards compatible cuz I really want to play gamecube games

da_chub
da_chub

day 1 purchase for me.  why...because its a nintendo.  where else can you play mario or link?  Wii is by far my most play system this gen and a nintendo has always been right next to my gaming pc. 

astro_viper
astro_viper

I definitely hope it is an improvement on the Wii, but I hope that they don't make too much of an upgrade as making 'beastly' gaming consoles will prove to be the downfall of the console gaming market.

 

Development costs per game are skyrocketing thanks in large part to an improvement in graphics (check out the polygon count for the new Xbox). This extra cost is a result of extra time being needed to both program and render high quality graphics. As a consequence, you get less high quality games at a higher cost today than you did in the past. PC gaming circumvents these costs largely by not really involving itself in "cycles" such as those we see in consoles.

 

I'm not saying that I want to see a return to NES quality graphics or anything, but at the end of the day, it is the amount of fun one has while gaming that matters, not the amount of "oh, that was pretty" alongside sparse content.

 

Conversely, one of the reasons that 'app' based games (or games programmed solely for online stores on Apple, Android, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, etc. products) are taking off is that they are good looking, solid games that provide pleasure at a low cost to the consumer. They are quickly becoming the mortar which is holding the gaming world together.

 

Just my two cents...

TruthTellers
TruthTellers

I guess we'll all find out when E3 happens in June. No need to speculate when Nintendo is going to show the world more of their new console in about 2 weeks.

joujou264
joujou264

I have something to say about the name, it will stay because of the Wii, the Wii U's predecessor. The 2 lower case ''i''s represent 2 people pbeing together, as well as representing a Wiimote and a Nunchuk. And because the Wii U has the backwards compatibility with the Wiimote and Nunchuk, the name stayed. Now you have some backstory/reason for why the name won't be changed. Though, I did not list all the reason why the wii was named Wii, and why because of those reasons the Wii U will also stay with that name, but here is a link if you are interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#Name

S_Pac_316
S_Pac_316

Well, I hear that the triggers are not analogue. So that's the only thing that should be changed, IMO. I also hope we could push down on the sticks like with the PS3 and 360 controllers.

We'll see when it comes out...

zen120
zen120

One thing I'm really exited about is how good games will look on the Wii U.  I mean, do you remember how good super mario galaxy looked?  And that was on 420p graphics!  Imagine what Nintendo could do with that art style on a 1080p HD system!

PeetBurton
PeetBurton

I personally believe that that the Wii U will be a beast of a system. It will more than likely be a powerful machine, since Nintendo has always built powerful hardware with the exception of the Wii ( which is not HD, but honestly the graphics are not bad in any way, and i got tired of Wii reviews saying crap like "not bad for Wii" , basing entire reviews on graphics without concentrating on the game play enough BAH).

 

I based my theory on their previous systems. SNES more powerful than Genesis, N64 more powerful than PSX and Saturn, Gamecube more powerful than PS2 and pretty much on par with Xbox... Wii was the exception due to lower than expected sales of the good old Cube (still my favorite system of all time), but in life's little ironies the Wii and DS sold so much that they can afford to make something the hardcore crowd will drool over. This is just a THEORY, but i think that based on how they made systems in the past, it is reasonable to assume they will come out with a powerful game machine. It would not make much sense to make hardware on par with the current generation right? It's 6 year old tech. 

Now Nintendo, give me some GOOD 3rd party support and some Zelda HD!

sieg6529
sieg6529

if the rumors about its hardware prowess are true, I could get on board.

bluespire1
bluespire1

I'm Gonna wait to find it in the Flea market

Redsyrup
Redsyrup

 THANK YOU Nintendo!!! I don't like your slide pads and have been complaining for a long time about the 3DS. Please do us all a favor and include real sticks on the 3DS Lite.

 

SeymorOnion
SeymorOnion

Why are there multiple posts sating that people should get the "Classic Controller Pro", when IT DOES NOT WORK WITH ALL WII GAMES?

Given it's lack of support for Skyward Sword, as well as many other WII Games, it is highly doubtful that it will be compatible with all U Games.

I have a hunch that Nintendo is going to push game developers for the U, to not use the Classic Controller Pro at all, in order to force upon us consumers that tablet-controller-touchscreen hybrid thing.

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I do not like Touch Screens, because:

1. Pens and Hands and Fingers bock the view of the game Screen.

2. It makes the simple... Complicated. Why slash, poke, prod, and Tap the tiny DS Screen to get to do Stuff, when a button, or combo of buttons, work?

3. Did you see that screenshot of the Sports Game and the U Tablet? Ya hold the Tablet between you and the screen for better targeting? That looks very tiresome, and it blocks the full view of the Game on your expensive HDTV.

 

I do not like Motion Controls, because my arms are already tired from a long day @ work. If I need to Exercise, I'll go out and do it, when I choose to do so. Please stop forcing this on us.

 

It upsets me greatly that there is No Way to use the Classic Controller Pro (or, at least, an option to play a slightly altered version of the game that uses standard buttons and an analog stick and/or D-Pad) with sequels of Games that started out without any jiggery-shakery, namely the Zelda Game for DS and Skyward Sword for the Wii.

 

In closing, I am not going to buy any more Nintendo Systems, until they add an option to play their flagship titles (Mario, Zelda, and so on) with a regular controller w/ no touchscreen, and no motion controls, for those of us who are not inclined to mess around with those two particular innovations.

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @joujou264 

Dude, i'm growing sick of reading your comments.

 

Nintendo makes affordable consoles because of the fans? Not because it's profitable? So, are you saying that we WANT consoles with outdated graphics and uncomfortable controllers? Because Wii makes my arm hurt, and i'm pretty sure holding this will too.

 

No, i'm not asking for this. I'm asking for innovation, not cheap tech aiming the big bucks.

 

Besides, tablet controlers have buttons IN touch screen, so they're only making it look less weird. But it's still a tablet ripoff.

 

Is Sony Xperia play innovation? I mean, mixing cellphones with portables WOW, complete breakthrough.

 

MS is a greedy company. Live fees, taxes everywhere, and no customer support. But they did Kinect, that was innovating, even though there's no friggin game for it, with exception of Rise of Nightmares (Published by SEGA btw).

 

Sony goes lawsuit happy, screwing around with every developers and users. They care only of their IP, not the users. And i can't say Vita is innovation, but is high tech at least. OLED, touch screen in front and back, connections. And some more things i can't recall now.

 

Nintendo... 3D that hurts your head?

 

And you wouldn't just ignore me? Not doing a good job. But then again, if you don't know nothing about gaming, it's not surprising you don't know the meaning of "ignore".

SeymorOnion
SeymorOnion

 @Raxyman  @gamerok123 

~ Small Nitpicks & Clarifications ~

In the late 90's, Nintendo teamed with Sony and Phillips to build a CD-ROM Attachment for the Super Nintendo. Not the n64.

When that partnership broke down, Sony decided to make it's own gaming console, and the First PlayStation was born.

 

The n64 Rumble Pak came out before Sony's DualShock Controller.

 

The first Screen-in-a-Controller-for-A-Console was Sega's VMU for Dreamcast.

Sony's PocketStation came out shortly afterward, but you couldn't use it's screen while it was connected to the PlayStation (IIRC) since it plugged into the console's Memory Card Port, and not the controller itself.

 

A few years later, Nintendo released an adapter that let you use the GameBoyAdvance as a controller, with certain GameGube Games.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman  @gamerok123 I agree with you to some degree, I just want say some thing:

I think it's a pretty good idea, to make a screen on the controller, as people before me have said, it's easier to micro manage games, like inventory, and so on, and it's easier to make mouse based games on the Wii U, Blizzard could easily port StarCraft 2 on the Wii U. And the biggest part is, you don't need a TV, you can play big scale games without a TV, I think that's a really big deal. If you are a student, and a gamer, but you can't afford a good TV, but you can afford a Wii U, you don't need the TV.

 

Sony did somewhat copy Nintendo, remember the Power Glove, it was sort of like Wii's predecessor, innovation wise. It didn't work too well, but it was still a completely new thing. And wasn't the N64 first in vibrating controllers? With the rumble pak I mean. I might be false. And Sony made the dual analog sticks, analog sticks were used long before the PS2. Still innovation, though.

 

I think Sony should stop innovating, since they haven't really innovated much since the PS2, the only things they patent now, are just against the consumer, like advertisements that occasionally play while you are playing a game, and thus completely destroying the immersion. They should just continue making consoles like they made the PS3, or at least, stop making these incredibly aggressive patents towards the consumer. I rather have a console that I can go back to, if the Wii U and the Nextbox fail in their innovations.

joujou264
joujou264

 @firstclassgamer It is, but with Wii games. But you can expect a lot of GameCube titles on the Virtual Console, and maybe Wii U remakes. I'm sorry if you have GameCube discs around, you might want to get a Wii for 50$ on eBay, if you want to play the discs.

joujou264
joujou264

 @astro_viper You do know that the only thing that a beastly console could harm developers, is the license? Because the time taking to make a game, and other expenses, are things that are determined by the engine of the game. Of course the costs are going to be bigger, but the earned money is also going to be bigger. And BTW, 60$ games are slowly dying out, thanks to the low PC prices, and the casual market (For which we should thank Nintendo, because they reinvented the casual market, at least, that's my theory on why casual games became so popular after 2006.)), that means that developing has become easier and faster, at least, for the current generation.

 

And developing games for PC is easier, faster, and all together, better for indie developers. What game have you seen lately that looks like it couldn't have afforded the license to, let's say, a PS3? The companies developing for console don't really have a problem with console expenses, because consoles are currently the biggest gaming market (Or could that be the casual market, that is currently earning the most for developers?).

 

That's all I really have to say. I understand that you don't want the gaming market to crash, but don't worry, because a big beastly machine has more + sides, than - ones. Like for instance, not so much limitations, developers can create massive, massive worlds on big beasts. Especially now that GTA V is coming, they could of made a little bit of a larger map for the Wii U version, if they are going to make one, because it can handle it.

 

 

joujou264
joujou264

 @kakashi552 It's just a damn name. If you want to know why the Wii was named the Wii, and why the Wii U will stay with Wii in it's name, then visit the link I posted 2 comments below you, well, 3 comments now.

joujou264
joujou264

 @zen120 *sob* I think I'm going to get a heart attack at this Nintendo3, excuse me, E3.

joujou264
joujou264

 @johnson206 Well, you can believe what you want. But there is certainly a higher possibility for the speculation to be true, than usual. I'm saying that because, before the Wii came out, Nintendo was a pretty high tech company. But because of the so-so sales of the GameCube, the Wii couldn't afford being a really high tech piece of technology, but now that the Wii sold like crazy, Nintendo could technically allow themselves to make a big beast out of the console.

joujou264
joujou264

 @sieg6529 Fortunately, the chances of them being true, are pretty high, because:

A) The Wii was underpowered, because the previous Nintendo console didn't sell that well. But now that the Wii is, I believe, 2nd most sold console in gaming history, Nintendo might just have gone back into their high, but affordable, standart.

B) The 720/PS4 won't be that much more powerful, if at all, because the economy of today doesn't allow too high prices, Sony learned it the hard way, so they in particular, won't bring out such a powerful console as the PS3 was at the time.

C) All the info we have of the Wii U, is mainly composed of speculation. Which means that the Wii U could be anything, well, hardware wise, that is.

These are my theories for now, so we just have to wait for E3, which is basically Nintendo's show, quality of the 3 console makers shows wise, that sounded weird.

joujou264
joujou264

 @SeymorOnion All I can say is: They are going to force the controller on us that already comes with this? At that point I already knew that you are just going to bash the Wii U controller with no real arguments, so I didn't bother reading the rest of the text.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman 1. No, I did not say that they make underpowered consoles, because of the fans. Because you just took those words out of my mouth (I hope you know what that metaphor stands for, seeing as you don't even know what ''economically affordable'' means.)

2. ''cheap tech aiming the big bucks'', lol, running out of ''arguments'', huh? Keep recycling the things that we're already debunked.

3. That was the weakest ''It's a tablet.'' argument that I have ever seen.

4. Nokia nGage did it first, and it flopped. Sony then did it, and it flopped. And it's not like in the case of the screen of the Wii U, because the Dreamcast used that tiny screen sort of like a tamagochi, here it's the main attraction of the controller. It may have ''practically invented'' the nGage, but not that much, to attract people to a phone that costs more than a high end gaming PC these days.

5. Yes, that was innovation, finally, you get something right, you should keep that up.

6. And.....ok......Sony is lawsuit happy......what did you try to do with that comment?

7. Not really, if you don't have a medical problem, and you don't use it for longer than a hour to 2, the 3D that is, you can play without 3D as long as you want, it's fine.

8. You might have gone crazy in that last part, because it looks like you want me to ignore you, instead of you ignoring me, which would be a far more logical action.

Ok, I'm just gonna ignore you from now on, like you said, because I feel as if you're becoming crazy after that last part, I don't want to get a lawsuit on my ass from your family, stating that I helped driving you crazy.

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @joujou264 @gamerok123

True enough. Like i said, i don't like Sony behaviour toward the customer. Lawsuits, DRM, patents...

The dualshock i'm sure it's Sony's, the vibration i'm not sure, like i said, Sony and Nintendo worked together in N64, both sides may have had the idea.

To me that's pretty much the truth http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/768

 

It seems we've gotten to a point where somehow competition is being worse to the customer, i think...

So, i have a pretty pessimistic view of those three companies, i don't see them innovating in favor of gaming. My point of view though.

EzcapeTheFate
EzcapeTheFate

 @joujou264 dude the Wii U is only slightly on par with the current XBOX and PS3. Thats 7 year old technology.  Its not even gonna be in the same league as the next XBOX and PS4. It will be just like the Wii was this generation, a cute cheap gimmik that ordinary people will buy to play games with kids and grandparents....serious gamers will stick with the other 2 consoles that actually have 3rd party support.

joujou264
joujou264

 @firstclassgamer I'm sorry, but that article might have been fake, it was said that a Italian kid faked it, I think they found that out a week after this article was made. I'm gonna delete it, but don't worry, I bet you'll still pre0order it after Nintendo's E3 Press Conference ;D

SeymorOnion
SeymorOnion

I'm not out to bash the Wii-U Tablet. I have no problem with other gamers liking it. I just want there to BE a Choice, that's all. ~_^

 

If Nintendo were to offer gamers the choice to use either the Classic Controller Pro, or the U-Pad, on all of their (Non FPS and Non Light-Gun Req) Wii-U games, they'd get a bigger market share.

 

Heck, if there was a choice, then the Gamers who wait a year or so, after launch, that don't like the tablet, might be able to pick up a cheaper Wii-U System Bundle, that doesn't come with the more expensive tablet controller, and can buy the games they missed, and still be able to play them, albeit with a different UI (Classic Controller Pro).

 

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @joujou264 I really don't know why i still waste time with you Nintendo people...

 

Fine, I'm officially giving up reasoning with you (dumb and misinformed) people.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman Well, someone is still innovating in favor of gaming, otherwise we would notice the lack of change, and gaming would be a lot less fun if nobody would innovate outside of games. We would be dependent on developers, to make the changes outside of games, good example on why developers should leave innovating outside of games to the Big 3, would be Skate 3, that was the game with the skateboard peripheral, right?

Although I find the comic you linked to, somewhat true, I think we should exclude Microsoft, because all they did with the Kinect, was take the Eyetoy, add another camera, and add a infrared sensor, and there you have it, the Kinect.

I've seen a lot of things that the 3 have copied, but on the most part, the most copied is Nintendo, that's just how I see it, since Sony recently showed that they DO copy Nintendo (PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale, even Sony fans say that it's copy/paste from Nintendo.), I would like to see Sony and Microsoft do their own innovations, there are occasionally some, like the 360 online being pretty innovative, but as I said, I want to see some hardware innovation, that hasn't been done by any of the Big 3 before. Or they could at least upgrade their existing innovations, like MS could put some additional cameras into the Kinect, to make it a bit more precise.

Another thing I would like to say, Sony should stop fucking around with patents, they sometimes do get good ideas, but they never full fill them, so nobody else can full fill them. It's just frustrating to hear that Sony continues on killing off good ideas, and nobody else can do those things.

joujou264
joujou264

 @uchihasilver You are telling ME to think logically, while telling me that Nintendo's next gen console won't surpass 6/7 year old tech? Dude, the Wii isn't Nintendo's 1st console, and it was the only console that was underpowered, the GameCube, the N64, the SNES, etc. were pretty powerful.

uchihasilver
uchihasilver

 @joujou264 Not to sound rude but wow dude you need to think logically, there is no way in hell the Wii U will be more powerful than the xbox or ps3 it just wont happen nintendo aren't like that they will not waste their time pushing themselves graphically they never have, but more importantly I agree with others that Nintendo changing their audience demographic could ruin them people will not and I mean will not whether you, me or the next guy like it buy the Wii U for hardcore gaming its as simple as that =/ also don't know about you but I just watched the E3 for Nintendo but it was very disappointing 

joujou264
joujou264

 @EzcapeTheFate May I see your proof? Because Nintendo hasn't revealed basicaly ANYTHING regarding the hardware. And you would really be a idiot to believe that it would be only ''slightly on par'', not even the damn Wii was just ''slightly on par'' with the original XBox.

joujou264
joujou264

 @SeymorOnion Yes, that is probably it. For all I know, U-Pad is going to integrated in every single game, question is, will the CCP controller be also for every game, seeing as how, not only it would be the best controller option for people who just don't want the table, but still want the Wii U as a powerful console (It is rumoured by a Ubisoft dev (supposedly Ubisoft dev) that it can run Unreal Engine 4, while Epic is asking MS/Sony to put better hardware into their systems, so that UE4 runs on their systems too.). And it would be good for Nintendo too, as in more people may buy a Wiimote with the CCP add-on, so that other players are somewhat equal while playing local multiplayer games.

SeymorOnion
SeymorOnion

 @joujou264 You make a good point. If they sold a system without it, that'd probably anger Game Developers, as it takes extra manpower to code two UIs into a game.

Well, some enterprising eBayers might split up a bundle, and sell the tablets separately.

Retail Chains that also sell used systems and games, in-store, might also do that, but Nintendo might lean on them, persuading them not to. It'll probably depend on what kind of distribution deals the stores have with Nintendo.

joujou264
joujou264

 @SeymorOnion One thing is for sure, they obviously won't release a pack that hasn't got the U-Pad in it (I like the name you made up.), because it's the main selling point off the Wii U. Though, it would be logical to implement the CCP into games, seeing as how the Wii U doesn't revolve around motion gaming as much as the Wii did, and is doing motion gaming like Sony/MS, a secondary play style, rather than the main play style, which is the tablet.

gamerok123
gamerok123

 @joujou264  @Raxyman 

I'm sorry to interrupt your exceedingly long set of lively discussions, but you seem to be slightly getting off topic. This page is about the Wii U and its controller and not about every single fault of Nintendo's. Granted Nintendo has made several mistakes in their consoles in the past, especially with the Wii which had hardly any graphical capabilities. But nearly every one of their consoles has been different from the last and though people criticized all of them, they turned out to be great successes at cheap rates. Nintendo has always come out with fresh ideas, only to have it picked up and copied by Sony.

Even though I might sound like a fanboy saying this, it is true and Nintendo, in a way, has been taking the gaming world forward.

joujou264
joujou264

 @moviequest14  @Raxyman I hope you don't just ditch the console if there aren't many 3rd party games in about the next 3 months after it's release. Because you have to keep in mind that, many of the games released today, we're just started working before the Wii U was announced. Another factor why there could be a dry season is, that many games just get released, before the Wii U launch, so the developers just don't bother making a Wii U version, because they think that everybody's already played them on their 360's/PS3's.

 

So, just keep that in mind. But I'm sure that a lot of devs will start working on Wii U games, or already have been working on. Just like Activision announced that they didn't have plans for the Wii U, some time later, they announced Project Nova, I believe that's what it's called.

 

I know this sounds like ''Please, please don't ditch it, there will be games, I promise, just don't leave.'', but those are the theories I have regarding the Wii U, 3rd party support.

moviequest14
moviequest14

 @Raxyman  @moviequest14 Wii-U wise , this e3 will be the deciding factor for me. I don't doubt Nintendo will ''hold up''  their part with 1st party support (especially if rumors are true). But I'm hoping to see some major 3rd party exclusive support , and most important , I'll probably be waiting for a couple months + just to see if the wii-u will be getting those steady releases beside 360/720 and ps3/ps4. The specialty ports of Arkham City , etc. are fine and good , but Nintendo needs to make sure that they keep up steady retail 3rd party release , so when you see a new game announced , you automatically assume it will be available on wii-u. If I would/could get some guaranteed proof of that it would be a day 1 purchase , but I doubt that'll happen. I was an ambassador 3ds owner , and ultimately I don't regret my purchase , I mean... there's no reason for me to complain about the price cut , the fact I bought it shows I considered the $250 a fair asking point , and I've enjoyed the classic titles I got for free , and I bought it knowing eventually titles would come , but I could understand how someone would be mad by the 3ds year dry spell. With the used games ban rumors in abundance , I'm not planning on buying any system that does enact that (not that I buy that many used games , but it's the principal) , so since I already (practically ) know that wii-u won't do that it is the most viable option until ps4/720 announce the same. But if I'm wrong and all 3 have the ban (though it could be that none of them enact it) I'll be sticking to hibernating in the current and last gen. My ps2 has enough games easily to last me the rest of my gaming life.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman 1. No, no, I didn't mean you in, particular, because that would be ridiculous, just saying to somebody ''Buy this console, as soon as it comes out.''. No, no, I don't do that stuff. I meant it in general, because it seems like most gamers on any other video/photo/article are hostile towards the Wii U. At first I wasn't so overwhelmed by the Wii U, but I definitely wasn't just hostile like the others. As time went, I read some Wii U articles, read some Wii U Daily things. And now I'm pretty excited for it, because it's doing a lot of things that haven't really been done before, not everything of course, but I mean the backwards compatibility to the Wii controllers, and such.

 

2. I don't really think the Wii U will have something like RROD, because that was just a flaw that was caused, because the 360 got rushed out. And it doesn't seem like Nintendo is in any hurry. And I don't know if there's gonna be things, like a wrist strap, for the Wii U controller, so nothing really comes in my mind that could be flawed, because both, the console, and the U-Pad, are very important parts, not like the wrist strap, which was merely a safety feature.

 

3. Well, you could port Wii games to the 360/PS3 NOW, that they pretty much ripped off the concept, MS at least put some of their own innovation in the concept of motion gaming. But Sony, ugh, almost the same thing as the Wiimote, even the Nunchuk. But that's, again, another story, what I wanted to say is, Nintendo is trying to make a console, out of the Wii U, that can please casual gamers, as well as hardcore gamers. And it looks like a pretty rosy future for them, considering the fact that casual gamers don't really think about the Wii like a hardcore gamer.

 

That's everything I have to say for now.

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @joujou264 Correcting myself "...but i'll wait and if nothing pops up, then i'll buy."

 

These livefyre conversations... No options whatsoever.

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @joujou264 Sorry man, but count me out of the first week sales. Remeber the Wii? The first versions has a frail wrist wrap, there were tons of complaints with broken TV's... Then, there were the motion plus,  and that's it. I made sure i would only buy the 360 when there were no more RROD issue. I don't know where the Wii U could go wrong, but i'll wait and if anything pops up, then i'll buy.

 

 @PeetBurton My steam profile is Raxyz, but i'm not really into playing online. I use online mostly for coop games with my friends, Borderlands, Shoot Many Robots, Killing Floor, you get the idea.

I still can't whole heartedly agree that Nintendo innovates, but if Nintendo can boast something i can't disagree is that their consoles are never common. That's why every game that is on XBox/PS isn't on Wii and Vice-versa. In the end it only depends on what kind of games you'd prefer.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman I don't think that waiting a year for a new version of the Wii U is really necessary. Because Nintendo hasn't really made mutiple versions of their home consoles, that's more of a MS/Sony thing (I hope they don't do that with the 720/PS4.). But you can wait if you want. I just hope that enough people will buy the console on launch, because first week sales are VERY important.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman 1. I admit, I made some ''smartass'' insults too. Though, good that we ended up on such a peaceful way.

 

2. Yeah, I usually don't even try to respond to the obvious trolls. But this guy seemed like an average 360/PS3 fanboy to me, but after I replied to him, and he replied to me, I knew that a normal gamer can't be that stupid, fortunately, it seems like me, and PeetBurton, gave him the rest.

 

3. It's paid, because it's labeled as a casual game, not a online game (Or browser game, whichever you want, they are both used.). That's also why I stick to Android phones, if I want to play some smartphone game on the go, then there's lots of free games on the Android market, though, they are pretty crappy, not because they are free, but because I have a pretty old Android phone. And you mean ''Motherlode'', right? I think anyone remembers that, online games we're really popular from 2004-2008, I believe. Even I play some online games today, just because I'm not in the mood for a big scale game. And I have to say, the games that the App Store has to offer, are nothing against the online games of today. Just search for Raze, or The Last Stand - Union City, then you'll understand what I'm talking about.

 

4. I don't really stand behind the point of support, when it comes to console games, because I would like to try Dragon's Dogma out, but I don't support Capcom a single bit.

PeetBurton
PeetBurton

 @Raxyman 

 

I like consoles a lot, but i also play on my PC. I love steam too, it's usually cheaper and headache free. I get plenty of games for it all the time. They have their sales sometimes and you can get amazing deals if you pay attention. Pc is amazing, i like it to fulfill my sometimes need to have the best graphics possible on true (1080p) High Definition, and luckily enough i have a Pc that allows me to play pretty much anything maxed out. But as much as a like Pc, i still play on my consoles more... A game can be visually appealing, but what matters to me most is the gameplay and innovation. And that is why i like Nintendo. They try to innovate, and for all intents and purpose they usually succeed. 

 

Good luck for your future purchases, and remember there is plenty to play on the DSi still. Search the DSi Ware if you want, there is something there for everyone and for very cheap prices. If you are on steam, perhaps we will play sometime!

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @moviequest14Well, i've learned to wait at least 1 year after the release of a new hardware before thinking of buying it. With that, i hope never fall into the same kind of stuff. Even with the Wii U, and even with the PS4 or 720.

 

But thanks! I hope this doesn't happen again for sure.

moviequest14
moviequest14

 @Raxyman Sorry you got ripped off mate , and I mean that. I definitely agree with you that dsi  (or how they handled it) was a very bad mistake on Nintendo's part. I remember saving up , deciding whether to buy a ds lite (after my old ds broke) or a dsi for the extra money and already seeing 3ds ads a month or 2 after I'd heard about dsi. Best of luck with your future game purchases!

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @PeetBurton 

I know KH saga. Hell, i've finished the 1 and 2 three times each, and the last one in proud mode with all reports...

 

But i dunno, it seems square lost the grip, it's not so exciting, and the third is taking so long that all my love for that series is gone... I've played Chain of Memories and 358/2 days, i wasn't amused... They're wasting so many time on side stories that the main one was forgotten. At least i felt that way...

 

I'm gonna be honest, i didn't found anything at DSi ware that i considered buying... But then again, i didn't looked that hard for it...

 

And yeah, i import all my games. Except Steam... Steam is paradise from gamers outside USA. Just bought 4 Dead Islands to play with my friends, the 4 copies were U$37...

 

Maybe i really shouldn't blame Nintendo for it... But i just can't help but remeber the older days of gaming, where these kind of issues rarely popped up... In the end i'm hating all 3 major companies, but i guess there's no going back now, is this or no games at all.

That's why i stick to Steam, i hated PC gaming, and nowadays i only use my consoles to their exclusives, everything else is PC...

 

 @joujou264 In the end neither of us actually changed our point of view... But at least is better parting in good terms.

And i'm to blame for the name calling, whenever is a Nintendo topic i'm commenting on i act pretty much like in Demon Souls. If it moves, i attack...

 

At least i learned it to take it slow next time XD.

 

And BTW, never fall for this trolling stuff. Everyone who resorts to "lol i troll u!!1!" is basically taking the easy way of admit it's ignorance... When i say something i mean it, i might be wrong in the end but i meant every word.

 

Oh, one last thing about the AB, what makes me feel the worst about this game is that it's paid... I mean, there are tons of sites with free online games, and they decide to pay for one that's not even that good? I admit that i lost a good deal of time with a Miniclip game named "Mothelode" i think... Back when my PC was crap and i didn't had any console... But i never paid for anything. If you're buying you're saying "i want to support that idea", at least that's the way i think. That's why i'm not buying SFxT, i wanted the coop fighting, but no. On disk DLC is way more than i can accept.

joujou264
joujou264

@PeetBurton

Well, if he's trolling then it's some damn fine trolling. I can give you the link, so you can see for yourself. I posted the link to the Wii U (supposedly) being Unreal Engine 4 capable, with some attraction sucking text over the link, to make sure that people really look at that link. Anyway, here's the link for the troll:

www.gamespot.com/news/epic-games-pushing-for-quantum-leap-in-next-gen-hardware-power-6377461

PeetBurton
PeetBurton

 @joujou264 

 

Lol I love my Cube, but unfortunately that guy you mention seems to be oblivious to reality. It's easy enough to confirm what you say. I bet he's just trolling you! :)

PeetBurton
PeetBurton

 @Raxyman 

 

I just mentioned Pokemon as an example of software still coming out for the DS and DSi. There are still games coming out, and you have all those games cheap to buy on the DSi Ware shop, there are some true gems over there and since you download the game, you don't have to pay the taxes you mention in your reply. It may be a cheaper option, so check it out if you want.

 

By now it is clear that the DSi and 3DS are different beasts. 3DS is the new generation, but what the DS left behind is a very large, memorable library of games. It seems from the way you replied that you thought the DSi was the new Nintendo handheld system, not just a re-design. If that was the case, it was unfortunate and you are right to be feel ripped of, but you cannot blame that on Nintendo.

 

Either way, it is just my opinion. I still play DSi a lot, including online on my original DSi not the 3DS. I find it more easy to play than the 3DS.

You mentioned The world ends with you, and if you like Rpg's or better yet, JRPG'S check out Kingdom hearts 358/2 days, or Kingdom Hearts RE:Coded. They are both really good, and you can find them on Ebay for about 20 dollars each.

 

It sucks you feel ripped off, but the system you ended up buying is still very much alive, at least for a few more months. It sucks that it's expensive to buy games where you live, so you should really consider importing like Joujou264 said. It may be a cheaper option.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman 1. That's a bit too much money they ask from their citizens, why don't you just import your products from the USA, or if that's not possible, why not from another South American country?

 

2. The DSi might have just been a hardware upgrade, or a test run on how people would react to a new DS product.

 

3. Though, the DSi does have the Ware shop, and there should have been some games. The DSi might just have been a failure in the eye's of the CEO's, so the devs behind the 3DS probably did what they could to preserve this camera feature, and made the 3DS which has a 3D camera.

 

4. It wasn't really ever year, there was quite the time between the DS Lite and the DSi.

 

5. And AB was a smartphone game. It was designed to be like that, to whip it out for 5 minutes at the bus stop, and that's it. I still stand to my theory that the Wii just restarted the casual market again, and that AB was sort of what the final product of that restart was.

 

6. Yeah me too, finally some peace full discussions. I'd like to bring this peace to the other article I'm currently arguing on too, though. That guy is just a flat out moron, he said that the GameCube sold tons, he could of at least look on the Wiki page, but no, he goes the moron path, I'll guess I'm gonna teach him some lessons in ''Nintendo'' history then.

Raxyman
Raxyman

 

 @PeetBurton @joujou264 @moviequest14 Wow, people, that's waaayy too much thing to read at once.

 

Replying to what i've read though.

 

I live in Brazil. Politicians here put hefty taxes on everything and the stores have a bad habit of 200% profit on every product. In a store i don't know if you have there (Lojas Americanas), the PS3 came out at R$7000. Of course, in 2~3 months that number decreased. Nowadays both PS3 and X360 range from U$300~U$500.

 

Here in Brazil it was like this:

-DSi release

-6 months later DSXL

-9 months later (than the DSi release) The 3DS was announced...

 

Money isn't easy come easy go here. I've bought on release because of how original it looked like, and i regret deeply. Since then never saw with good eyes any Nintendo announcement. And that's i'm not confident about the Wii U. And by looking it at a neutral point of view. It COULD have some great games if applied correctly, but they didn't did it with the hardware i bought so you can't blame me for not be looking forward to it.

 

Peet, how many time did the PS3 and 360 hold out? DS was released, then DS lite. The DSi wasn't the same thing as lite, i already hoped it was the new thing Nintendo would do. The time span for a new hardware matched with the DSi. And pay attention. 3DS runs DS games, but what am i supposed to do with my DSi? Any new release don't work in my DS, and i really don't care about Pokemon, it's a different dungeon crawler without only 2 objectives of "Winning all emblems" and "Catch them all". I tried the silver. Grow bored quickly.

 

But i had a good time with DS. All the Sonics availiable for it, Time Hollow, Trauma Center, Trace Memory, Touch Mechanic, The World Ends With You (best DS game IMO) and many others that were worth my time.

 

But i did feel ripped off. They released a handheld every year or less? It isn't really nice to the customer.

About the AB... That's a sensitive topic, i'm not saying it's a crappy game. I'm saying that PS1 games offered more depth and fun than that. We should walk forward, not backwards... Take the game Ivy the Kiwi. I haven't played it, but i know how it is. it's simple, yet interesting. I don't remember any game like it. But AB is just like Crush the Castle, with more color... So it's not new. It doesn't deserve that much praise for something that's not original... At least that's the way i see.

 

Really, after so many name-calling, we're finally reaching a point where we can talk without any hostilities. The way this conversation goes i'm actually enjoying it instead of being pissed.

PeetBurton
PeetBurton

 @joujou264 

No problem. What i meant with the upcoming Pokemon titles is that they are a DS release, which they are. They are developed for that hardware, and since the 3DS is backward compatible you can also play those games on it. But those specific games are made tailor fit for a previous generation of handheld, and you won't have a different experience playing them on the 3DS, so it's not like you need one to fully enjoy them.

 

I keep my 3DS handy for RE Revelations, Metal gear 3D, Dead or alive dimensions, Spirit camera, Ocarina 3D and Mario 3D land.  When Pokemon comes out, i will enjoy it on my DSi, which is more comfortable to play in my opinion.

joujou264
joujou264

 @PeetBurton I'm sorry that I offended you. It just seemed like you should of added the fact that it available for the 3Ds, since you said that it won'' come out for the 3DS, it just doesn't have any 3DS functions.

PeetBurton
PeetBurton

 @joujou264  After a third update to existing hardware, anyone with a brain would know a substitute would be on the way in the short term, which was about 2 and a half years between DSi and the 3DS. Not too much time between them if you shelved money into it, and for some people that may be a problem. As much as i like Nintendo, 3 upgrades on the same product was pushing it, but somehow they managed to make all the DS models feel different, specially the DSi.

 

I did buy a DSi for it's features, namely the DSi ware shop, which has some truly great titles that you could not get anywhere else but a DSi since they were not released through retail. In that sense the DSi was more than worth it for me, and yes i prefer to play my DS games on the original hardware, not my bulky 3DS. Is that a problem? Your first comment is a bit of an insult to my intelligence. Everyone knows the 3DS is backward compatible, but a lot of people still prefer their DSi's to play DS software. just like me.

joujou264
joujou264

 @PeetBurton Ugh, doesn't anybody remember that the 3DS CAN play DS games?

Though, I agree with a lot of what you said, I do not agree in the part where you said that the 3DS would soon come out after the DSi, because that could only be applied to the DSi XL, if at all.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman 1. Well, maybe for super hardcore RE fans, but for the general gamer, RE:R wasn't that bad.

 

2. I'm not saying that there aren't innovational RTS games, what I said was, RTS games, as a genre, hardly exists on console. But, with the touchscreen controls that the Wii U is offering, it all could change.

 

3. I'm not saying that Nintendo is a wonder, well, they we're a wonder for the video game crash, but that is a whole other story, I'm just saying that Nintendo still makes innovative consoles. Unlike, for example, the 360, outside of hardware and online, it hardly changed.

 

4. Other big devs have praised AB. I mean how can you not. Miyamoto basically invented (Popularized, remember?) casual gaming on the Wii, and AB is what followed, he just praised like the children of the Wii on having such a big success (1 frickin billion downloads!). I know that it sounds cheesy, but I don't really remember anything about casual gaming before the Wii.

 

5. Believe me, they would do that. Just look at what they've done before. MS sabotaged their own Windows Live application, just to make it harder to game on the PC. And this wasn't my idea, do you know a YouTuber by the name TotalHalibut? He talked about it in one of his videos about Windows Live, but don't think that he's crazy or a moron, just watch one of his videos, and you'll understand.

 

6. And don't you think that 3000$ isn't a bit far fetched? I mean, Sony would do that, if they would be economically stable. But 3000$, I'm sorry but, do you live in hell? Those prices are ridiculous.

moviequest14
moviequest14

 @Raxyman I would definitely say I agree with you on the dsi , I would be pretty pissed if I had decided to buy it instead of a lite myself. From what I know I don't remember any first party games supporting it , and the couple 3rd party games that did were majorly shovel ware , to then have the 3ds replace all of the above and more. Really? That's all there is to the 3ds? so far there are 14 80+ (metacritic) rated games.The 3ds also has boasted 4 new ip's (that is only in e-shop) a sequel to a 25+ year old game that ,for all purposes , is also a new ip. A remastered revival of literally the highest rated game of all time. Fairly strong 3rd party support with titles coming//released like RE: Revelations , MGS , CastleVania , Heroes of Ruin , Power of Illusion , Bravely Default , KH DDD , and 1st party fare including mk7 , super mario 3d land , animal crossing , luigi's mansion 2 , and even more titles are bound to be announced by the upcoming e3. I don't know what extemely impractical expectation you've set for the system , but that's pretty damn impressive in my book.

moviequest14
moviequest14

 @Raxyman oh wow , calling him a girl/little kid? That's original , how long did it take you to think of that?

PeetBurton
PeetBurton

 @Raxyman

 

I think that it would depend on when exactly you bought your DSi. It still has games coming out for a few more months, due to it's large user base and steady sales, including the new Pokemon games that won't be coming out for the 3DS. So it is not a dead portable yet.

 

I still play on mine quite often, and i bought some of the newer releases like Aliens Infestation, a fantastic title that i recommend you pick up. Also The DS has one of the best game libraries of all time, and if you can't afford new games try the used market or try to import some cheap titles. Only DSi exclusive software is region locked, and trust me you have a lot to chose from to play with your "dead" portable.

 

You can't really blame Nintendo for paying the amount of money you did for their system. If you are online and try to keep up with gaming news, you should have known that the 3DS would be coming out soon, and the decision to spend the money was entirely yours. I would not feel that bad mate, like i said a few games still come out, and you are blessed with a huge game library, so the chances of finding something you will enjoy are high. I like my 3DS, but i still play my DSi more. If my DSi is not dead, why should yours be?

Raxyman
Raxyman

No offense man, but the people i know are truly hardcore fans of RE series. And they didn't liked how the story played out, and the gameplay felt a lot striped down. Their words, not mine. Hey, Endwar is a RTS that works better on consoles that on PC. But that's Ubisoft's innovation (as much as it hurts saying something good about that company, but they know how to do games...), not Nintendo's. Just like the PC indies i've mentioned. Credits to the devs, not to Steam.

 

And just to be clear, i agree on the used games, but that's it. I still don't see Nintendo as the wonder you are speaking of. And i'm not as stubborn as you think, i've admitted being wrong already. Some stuff i said turn out to be pretty idiotic. But not this, i'm sure of what i'm talking about.

 

Something that made me lose even more faith in Miyamoto. http://www.gamespot.com/news/miyamoto-praises-angry-birds-6371335 Let's face it, this game shouldn't be getting attention from such high profile gaming devs... Miniclip, Armor Games and other sites like these have some games that are much more fun to play than AB, then why praising it? Because of how much money it made?

 

The used blocking consoles are still rumour, i'm scared really, but if they do this they'll be sacrificing their consoles because i at least hope that something that bold won't be taken lightly by all the customers. I don't think they're that stupid, risking being a total failure because of used games? Seems a little radical.

 

And you didn't considered the taxes our talk about the price. You know how much a DS lite game costs here? Converted from R$ to U$ already. $110. What about the $60 cods? $170.

 

Do you know how much the PS3 costed here on release? $3000. And lastly, i've paid $550 on DSi. Should i not be pissed? On wasting that much money on a dead portable?

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman See, agreeing on something isn't so hard, now is it?

1. As I said previously, the 3D can only played about a hour to 2, without some medical problems that is. Your friends might just have all the same medical problem, I don't quite remember it, but it was said to be very frequent among people. But on the other side, the 3DS is also a hardware upgrade of sorts.

 

2. I dunno man, I'm seeing some pretty good scores, from editors, as well as from the general public. You might just have a extraordinary group of people. And don't you even start with the prices, the prices in my country, are exactly the as in America, BUT that equals 2x the dollars, so, in fact, when I buy, for instance, a PS Vita, it's about 600$-800$ for me.

 

3. It is, believe it or not, innovation. Could you play RTS games on a console before? I mean, proper RTS games, like Starcraft 2. I don't think so, because that doesn't work for SHIT. Now it's possible. And have you ever played a console, with the TV turned off, nothing even near that has been recorded. There are lots of things that the console itself can do, like backwards compatibility with controllers, have you seen that before (Apart from the SEGA Genesis controller plugging into a Atari 2600.)? There are lots of things that the Wii U is the 1st to do, just go to: www.wiiudaily.com. It's a whole site, dedicated to Wii U news, and it basically explains everything about the Wii U (Though, there are some rumors, that haven't been labeled rumors, like the GTA V one.).

 

4. Well, Nintendo has announced that they will have used games, since last year. MS/Sony announced that they (supposedly) won't have used games.

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @joujou264 

3D without glasses... I remeber that in Cheetos tazoos. But there's a huge difference between them, The Cheetos one didn't made your head hurt. Eveyone i know that owns a 3DS have said to me that they ALWAYS play with 3D off. It's a no good deal.

 

The RE for 3DS? People hated it. At least the hardcore fans i know did. The only game i've always heard good things is the Ghost Recon. But it really doesn't needs the 3D.

 

I'm not following any trend. I'm a pissed DSi owner. I don't receive a slap in the face and easily forgive. Where i live videogames don't come cheap. I chose a DSi over the PSP3000 because of the promised exclusives. I spent a LOT of money on it, and to what end? To stay playing the old DS lite games, and to know that they'd release a new one that my DSi couldn't run those games.

 

And the "tablet controller", making buttons on a tablet isn't innovating. Is mixing random things and hoping it works. There could be some wonderful games using this. But i don't believe it'll happen. Just like the Kinect. Rise of Nightmares is the only thing worth for it. Kinect have so much potential, and it's wasted on dance titles and simplistic games.

 

And also, congrats, for the first time you said something that i'll agree. Nintendo have not entered in a crusade against used games. But maybe not out of kindness, maybe because they saw how bad the reception was with the other 2 companies, and didn't wanted to risk enraging everyone. Still, we can't say their intention for sure, i've learned to always hope for the worst. MS, Sony and Nintendo gave me that lesson.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman 1. I would like to see that promise, and if I don't find any exclusives, you might be able to achieve a ''You're right.'' from me.

 

2. That's basically the same as the first part, just a example of how there weren't any exclusives for it (supposedly).

 

3. There we're more games for it, and might I add that the Wii couldn't handle much, it was a pretty weak system (BTW, here's a example of how I say negative things about Nintendo sometimes.). But now that the Wii is pretty much integrated in the Wii U, the motion controls potential could be fully used.

 

4. What copy/paste? I don't remember any 3D games before the 3DS, except the Virtual Boy, which was just yuck, especially not 3D without glasses, there, I mentioned it again, and now, it has loads of good games, Resident Evil being one of the examples, just go to the 3DS games Wiki site.

Again, if I remember anything important, I'll make a post again.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman You want to continue, ok, let's continue.

1. Uhh, why not continue insulting, that totally helps you, especially now that I pointed it out that you continually insult me for some reason.

 

2. There might be greedy CEOs at Nintendo, but they certainly aren't the major group, because otherwise Nintendo would also do something about the used market, and they also wouldn't implement backwards compatibility, instead they could of sold Wii games on their Wii U Virtual Console, but no, you can play your old discs on it. And might I add that Nintendo does innovate, for the 10th, or something like that, time? 3D on a console, especially 3D without glasses has not been done before. And a screen on the controller has also not been done, apart from the Dreamcast's tamagochi thing, which didn't really have as much use.

 

3. And you are following the trend of being just generally against Nintendo, even though they haven't done anything to you.

That's all for now, I might add things later, if I remember something.

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @joujou264 You want consistence?

I've bought a DSi under the promise of "exclusives with original ideas from Nintendo with the use of camera"

 

Nintendo didn't released shit, i was left behind with a crappy game named "Foto Showdown" and wasn't even Nintendo's.

 

The Wii, the innovative games came from Atlus, Platinum and other companies. Trauma Center, Mad World and No More Heroes are worth playing. Any Mario game could work on NES considering how simple it was...

 

And 3DS? That one speaks for itself. The purest form of "copy paste" and gimmicks.

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @joujou264 Christ. That girlie sure screams loud! If you love Myamoto so much then go to his office, undress and bent over, i'm sure you'll enjoy that.

 

Any idiot and ignorant fanboy with shit instead of brain thinks that nintendo innovates anything. A true gamer knows that the three big companies are exactly the same greedy CEOs who screw over customers as long as they pleases the sheeps who make their piles of money.

 

I'm not wrong, i'm just flowing against the hype of fanboyism, because i have an opinion of my own, and not a opinion of sheep, like yours. Everything you said about Nintendo? I've heard a thousand times over. Always the same bitching.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman BWAHAHAHAHAHA, you? And that sentence? I just fell off the chair from laughter, who the fuck do you think is going to believe you? You we're wrong since the beginning, everyone saw it, yet you didn't say "I'm sorry, I* realize* I* was wrong.", be thankful, I corrected your grammatical problems. Be sure to re-read you own comments, wait, no, re-read the whole conversation.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman Huh, I swear to god that I saw some kind of letters under my comment. That is supporting dumbass, I agree with some negative things that are said about Nintendo here, and I myself have posted some negative things about Nintendo here. And unless you think that everyone posts the same amount of comments as you do, I always like to follow some article, and generally respond to people. Oh, and you also seem to have seen the word ''racist'' in my comment, I'd suggest reading it again, again, and again, until you stop reading it with non-existant words.

 

And the next part is just absolutely fantastic, I would be the one if I would of ''screamed like a girlie'', though, looks like you we're the one who left, because your last 4-5 comments had nothing, NOTHING, consistent to say other than ''You like Nintendo, so I assume that you don't like any other console, and I also assume that you are a giant fanboy. Insult, insult, insult, insult, insult, some facts about MS/Sony, insult, insult, insult, etc. And please, show some backbone, and stop ''reasoning'' with me, nobody here agrees with you, I seriously don't know what you want to prove. But if you do continue, I'm gonna continue too, because I can't stand people like you.

 

Though, you didn't show any true flaws, you just continued babbling on about, how Nintendo doesn't innovate anymore, and that is false, because every fucking gamer knows that.

 

 

 

 

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @moviequest14 No. What i say when i have nothing left is "I'm sorry, i realise i was wrong." Thing that i never heard from your kind of people. I only hear screams, crying and swearing.

Raxyman
Raxyman

 @joujou264 "Anyone supporting Nintendo'"?

 

Dude, you ARE dumb. You have more comments on this page than i have in my entire story of Gamespot. This is supporting? This is worshipping! You are a dumb fanboy saying shit to anyone who disagrees that we all should bow down to Miyamoto. And racist? Really? Hitler was dumb too, i'm a racist because of that? I really don't like using this but, L.O.L., every comment you add makes me laugh.

 

A verbal black eye? You're a girlie crying and throwing everything you can on me. I'm leaving because the girl screams so loud that my head is beggining to hurt and the only option left is to hit her, and i don't hit on girls neither childs. So i'll stop reasoning with you.

 

 @hitman047m4 When i said Nintendo people i meant fanboys. Those people who can't read/hear someone point out the flaws Nintendo has without throwing tantrums. Frustrating, but there's tons of them.

Liking is one thing, worshipping is another completely different.

joujou264
joujou264

 @hitman047m4 He thinks that anyone supporting Nintendo is a die hard fan of Nintendo, ready to buy anything that is related to Nintendo. And that was the guy who also said ''Fine, I'm officially giving up reasoning with you (dumb and misinformed) people.'' after being heavily criticized by me, moviequest14, rarson, and a few others. So basically, he's a moron, that couldn't come up with anymore bullshit to say.

joujou264
joujou264

 @Raxyman And this, ladies and gentlemen, was the tale of how a man came to this place to spread his untrue beliefs, and how he left with a shitty excuse to leave, and a verbal black eye.

hitman047m4
hitman047m4

 @Raxyman no offence, but what do you mean when you (and others) said Nintendo people?