[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="SizeMatterzz"]Just like most wii games it was same old same. My GF has a wii.SizeMatterzz

Yes. It really was.

the gaming industry strongly disagrees. man, you cant really enjoy any game, i feel sorry for you. if you think SMG is same old, then you wont really like 99% of all games out there that are just same old, you certainly wont enjoy any FPS games so stay away from that genre. in fact, stay away from everything, because its all just the same.

[QUOTE="edub30"]I can only hope that success of Ninty's first party games can finally bolster some third party developer confidence/effort. They've proven with SMG, MP, and Zelda:TP that the machine can be so much more than it currently is.TDLlama

It's too bad that's Nintendo's big 3 franchises... other than Smash, Nintendo is relying on Wii Fit to keep sales high. 3rd party companies are doing a little, but they're more focused on brain games and virtual pet sims than real games.

we know there are some more hardcore titles coming from 3rd party, and i have a feeling that nintendo has more up their sleeves.

I can only hope that success of Ninty's first party games can finally bolster some third party developer confidence/effort. They've proven with SMG, MP, and Zelda:TP that the machine can be so much more than it currently is.edub30

they have sold much, but none of them are as mainstream as smash bros. still, i believe zelda tp has sold around 4 million on the wii alone, SMG has sold 4,7 million and MP has sold just over 1 million. i think the sales of those would have been far greater if smash bros was out before them.

What does Smash Bros, GTA, Halo, Gears and the likes have in common besides amazing sales? they all appeal to the same crowd. to the casual mainstream male 14 + of age. Wii has sold a lot to hardcore gamers and to casual gamers, mainly who dont enjoy the mainstream violent games, two ends of a spectrum. the hardcore gamers are few in comparsion to everyone else, they are the onces who actually follow the industry to some degree and hang around forums, etc. the other major category is the wii sports, wii play, carnival games crowd and to some degree, mario galaxy etc depending on if they have children etc.

whats lacking though, is the typical console gamer. a guy who wants straight foward "mature" games such halo, gears, gta, etc, a guy who thinks chainsaws, blood, guns, shooting down innocent pedestrians and the like is radical/ and or TOTALLY AWESOME. that guy doesnt play rpgs, he will never play mario galaxy no matter how good it is, nor will he touch games that are not as straightforward as his main preference. they find out about their games through the word of mouth and commercials. wii has a relative lack of those costumers compared to ps3 and 360, both of which have them almost exclusively . the ps3 simply because of its name, 360 because it already has hits such as halo, gears, crackdown, etc.

wii has games that appeal mostly at both ends of the gamer spectrum, not the big chunk in the middle though. smash bros will probably change that. its a game with many recognizable characters beating each other sensless while madness is ensuing all around them. its arguably the best multiplayer experience you can have with friends at your house. in short, it has always filled the criterias of the mainstream gamers, and it will have an impact beying simply selling tons consoles. i know people who bought the gamecube simply because of smash bros, and then later built their GC library around it. i think that smash bros will spur the sales of more traditional mainstream games that have sold pretty poor so far on wii. you could argue that its because 3rd party devs havent really made an effort, but nonetheless. it wont simply be a system seller, it will boost the sales of the games that have been lackluster so far and games like no more heroes will benefit from greatly.

[QUOTE="Krudus"]

LMAO at the damage control in this thread. only 6 times before have famitsu given perfect scores, and games such as mario galaxy got lower. famitsu might not be the most reliable source but 40/40 from them is still impressive, something that almost no other games could do, and that is not a bad thing. beside, is nintendogs not an AAA title?

the frightened fanboys are truly pathetic, scared that smash bros in indeed all its cranked up to be.

Stonin

Frightened fanboys? You do know I own a Wii right? Seems to me you're a little defensive for some reason ;).

ye except the entire thread is filled with your damage controlling and trying to twist this into the worst possible angle, so yes kiddo, you say one thing in this post but the entire thread worth of your comments says something else ;) definately sounds like a angry fanboy to me;)

LMAO at the damage control in this thread. only 6 times before have famitsu given perfect scores, and games such as mario galaxy got lower. famitsu might not be the most reliable source but 40/40 from them is still impressive, something that almost no other games could do, and that is not a bad thing. beside, is nintendogs not an AAA title?

the frightened fanboys are truly pathetic, scared that smash bros in indeed all its cranked up to be.

[QUOTE="Krudus"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

You got their name wrong, it's Factor 4.5.

Besides, they have a lot to prove.

gingerdivid

be that as it may, they still developed one of GC's best game and are one of the best devs with hardware, a fine addition to either sony, ms or nintendo, regardless of how much their last game sucked.

i think they are aware of how much it sucked, and great devs have created bad games before, such as DMC2 etc. yes, lair might indicate that the factor 5 is in a downwards spiral, that we can say after the wii game is released. until then however, i still believe that whatever they might be creating still will be a legit thing to hype.

You got their name wrong, it's Factor 4.5.

Besides, they have a lot to prove.

gingerdivid

be that as it may, they still developed one of GC's best game and are one of the best devs with hardware, a fine addition to either sony, ms or nintendo, regardless of how much their last game sucked.