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@zaryia said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

The democratic party has never been the party for blacks.

Blacks have no party. Just liars and exploiters.

It's been more for them than the GOP, that's for sure.

@n64dd said:

@thegreatchomp: mexico isn’t a race. It’s a country with multiple races, and what black countries did trump mention?

I just want you not to make up thinks like you’re doing as all.

Yes, what Biden said was racist.

This doesn't compare to Trump's comments on Judge Curiel. That was actually much worse, and much more racist.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/02/05/the-judge-trump-disparaged-as-mexican-will-preside-over-an-important-border-wall-case/

@n64dd said:

@thegreatchomp: Trump hasn’t said anything racist, Biden has.

Why do you lie though?

Oh yeah, Info Wars lover.

"much more racist"... says you lol. Given that Trump's comment was directed at one person (over his policy proposals), and Biden's comment was directed at an entire race, I disagree with you.

Not to mention, Biden lied in a huge way, saying that the NAACP endorsed him and his racist record. I guess he just figured his voters would be stupid enough to not actually look at his record.

https://www.naacp.org/latest/naacp-statement-endorsement-comment-former-vice-president-joe-biden/

Go ahead and spin it however you want, that's a huge lie.

So in that one interview alone, Biden managed to prove that he is racist, senile, and a liar... he is muchworse than Trump.

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Lol so many people here trying to brush this under the rug as quick as possible. Or they're trying to say that he was joking/didn't mean it... which means Democrats are okay with racist jokes now. Even reddit was blowing up over this.

This was a racist comment showing what many in the DNC already believe, that the black vote is something they can take for granted. Charlamagne didn't give a shit about Trump or the black vote at that point in the interview, he just wanted to know how his community would be supported.

More importantly though, it provides more evidence to his senility (for anyone who still doubts it) to speak his mind on something like this. Sure, with the current media landscape, this story will be gone in a week. But Biden's really on a roll with these gaffes... Democrats might want to stick him back in his cave.

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@zaryia said:
@Karnage108 said:

So then what would you say to someone that prefers Trump over Biden for his stance on pro-life?

Bad example. I'm talking about stuff like his lies on Climate change, Covid-19, and voting. Just quick examples. Much bigger stuff than silly Joe gaffs (while Trump also has his daily gaffs, but again of much more importance like Covid-19). While also having policy disasters.

Factual stuff. Not ideological. He's a nutcase, over 15,000 lies as well.

@Karnage108 said:

Nice try with the deflection but that article did not cite any examples of Trump being senile. Mentally troubled =/= senile.

You said "mental health". That article is not deflection.

Trump 'severely mentally troubled' and must resign from coronavirus response, mental health group warns

I guess I find Trump's mental problems much worse. A very troubled man, I'd take Joe's harmless problems over this.

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Also, you can't prove the statement in bold.

That's true. It was just an educated guess based off of Obama administration data.

Sadly we'll never truly know if Joe would have handled this as disastrously as Trump.

Bad example? No, you're just missing the point. You can disagree with the reasoning behind why people would vote for Trump, but people are free to choose how they weigh political issues. Many Americans will want to vote for Trump specifically because they will look at the bigger picture and understand that the economy was booming before the pandemic hit. To you, this pandemic is enough to get Trump out of office. That's how you rationalize your vote for Biden (nothing I see from you is pro-Biden, it's all anti-Trump).

And I don't need a mental health group to tell me something's wrong with the way Trump responds to media, but I'm also not oblivious to the leading and loaded questions he has to field. Biden's braindead gaffes are in zero-pressure situations and on friendly turf. He will be eaten alive once the debates start and it will be hilarious.

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@zaryia said:
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@virusvaccine21 said:

One can rationalize a preferred candidate due to policies and ideological beliefs

Actually it's impossible to rationalize some of Trump's policies and beliefs. You have to have mental issues or be lying.

Many of them are literally fictional or objectively wrong. That's the problem with him. Unlike Joe, he sometimes enacts these into policy ideas.

@Karnage108 said: but at what point will Democrats take Biden's mental health seriously? And that's a serious question.

But at what point will Republicans take Trump's mental health seriously? And that's a serious question.

Trump 'severely mentally troubled' and must resign from coronavirus response, mental health group warns

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There is no moral high ground here, one is senile and the other is not. Not sure about you but that's where I draw the line.

There is no moral high ground here. Trump is senile and his policies have cost this country dearly. Not only is he more insane than Biden, but his handling of Covid-19 will be a historical disaster. If Joe was president at least the experts would have been in charge rather than rebuked.

So then what would you say to someone that prefers Trump over Biden for his stance on abortion? Following your logic it sounds like you would assume they have mental issues.

Nice try with the deflection but that article did not cite any examples of Trump being senile. Mentally troubled =/= senile.

Also, you can't prove the statement in bold.

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@virusvaccine21 said:
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Lol, big deal. Trump says something just as bad every day and he's president. That didn't matter in 2016. Just another nothing burger.

Bitch about Trump's so-called "divisive" rhetoric all you want but symptoms of dementia in a presidential candidate is not a nothing burger. Dude is going to end up nuking us by accident if he becomes president.

And you don't need to remind me of the dumb stuff Trump has said, btw. I'm well aware.

The country is divided, he's just saying it like it is. Republicans don't really have a moral high ground here. Lol, Trump is more likely to nuke us than him.

One can rationalize a preferred candidate due to policies and ideological beliefs but at what point will Democrats take Biden's mental health seriously? And that's a serious question.

There is no moral high ground here, one is senile and the other is not. Not sure about you but that's where I draw the line.

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@virusvaccine21 said:

Lol, big deal. Trump says something just as bad every day and he's president. That didn't matter in 2016. Just another nothing burger.

Bitch about Trump's so-called "divisive" rhetoric all you want but symptoms of dementia in a presidential candidate is not a nothing burger. Dude is going to end up nuking us by accident if he becomes president.

And you don't need to remind me of the dumb stuff Trump has said, btw. I'm well aware.

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Lol it gets even worse...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdvM9K8N6OY

His gaffes are on a whole different level compared to Trump.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:
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How can his physician sign off on this? It seems like a break of ethics. I want to see him physically take it on camera before I believe it.

Ever heard of off-label drugs?

Sure. I'm failing to see what that has to do with my comment though.

The doctor gave him a drug that is FDA approved, but not approved (yet?) to treat COVID-19.

We could look further into this and say Trump paid some shady doctor to allow this... but politics aside I see no reason to make that assumption. What is unethical here?

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@HoolaHoopMan said:

How can his physician sign off on this? It seems like a break of ethics. I want to see him physically take it on camera before I believe it.

Ever heard of off-label drugs?

@horgen said:

Is he serious?

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2020/05/12/nyu-study-looks-at-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-azithromycin-combo-on-decreasing-covid-19-deaths

Are they serious?

It's truly amazing to see how Trump evokes such hysteria among people that really don't have a clue what they're talking about (who are listening to people that don't have a clue what they're talking about, given the lack of data).

Trump is taking the drug in a medically controlled environment, but I guess we should discredit the doctors now.

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@zaryia said:
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He screwed up... how? Because he was (and is) confident that things will get better?

Being slow to act, failing on test, ignoring the warnings, dismantling certain systems beforehand, not being prepared before hand even though he was told years ago we needed this, and yes offering fake confidence which his administration seemed to work in mind of.

My links above your post show these facts.

@Karnage108 said:

Because he was (and is) hopeful that X drug would work?

Yes, that's part of it. Peddling fake answers is dumb. As is saying expert analysis is wrong or saying it's not that bad or it's not as bad as the flu. That's all bad. As was his response.

The Lyson thing just showed he's a nutjob.

@Karnage108 said:

I still find it funny how so many of those sources you link were all suggesting that the blue wave would begin with with special election wins in California and Wisconsin. I've been looking for follow up articles to those and can't seem to find any...

None of my fact check links in my post above yours said that. Neither did the studies I linked or the Scientists I quoted. Stay on topic.

I made that last point because there's a clear bias in many of the sources that you pad your posts with, and I have better things to do with my time than to continue beating that dead horse. Him "hoping" that the virus would be gone by April is not a screw-up on his part, it's a straight-up nothingburger. It literally means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Him "dismantling certain systems beforehand" is a dishonest statement... why not mention that those personnel were allocated to other areas? Peddling fake answers is dumb... mkay, sure. The only "real" answer then would be a vaccine, which may never truly happen.

How about we start focusing on the here and now though? I get that you want to shift as much blame to Trump as possible, but it seems more sensible at this point to see how the virus is being handled on a state level.

You know what else you'll see if we start focusing on the here and now? Trump's approval rating is now at an all-time high and he's beating Biden in key battleground states.

@horgen said:
@n64dd said:

@jeezers: every single one of his “debates” are posting links to every site that agreed with his narrative, then using appeal to authority tactics when people counter.

Why don't you hit back the same way?

He did, and he was accused of moving the goal post.