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LOL XD What?! So I guess making a stereotypic copy pasta of all abused ideas already in RPG genere makes a good RPG for you? Well for me it takes something more to make an RPG good, certainly making another clone of a clone is not one of those things. Loved Witcher, Drakensang and first Gothic, mainly cause despite having a world set in Medieval Fantasy, they did it good. Witcher kept you tensed all the time, moral choices had some true impact and world was gray not black and white like in DA, Drakensang perfectly kept the atmosphere of medieval, with equipment, items looking as they were suppose to look and not some ridiculous shapes. Also, despite beeing clichee, a game released year before DA managed to keep well balanced narration, so till the very end you had no idea who's main atagonist, it presented the story page after page, as you got into it and realised that what you belived on the begining was not entirely truth. Gothic - instead of placing you in stereotypic adventure, put you to an original setting and situation, where you find yourself as a prisoner condemned to spend rest of his life in fould colony full of murdurers and criminals! And Dragon Age? In the very first scenes they showed the Dragon Arch Demon, which you were destined to kill, and like from begining you well knew how all the story is gonna end. Thats a poor, lame narration and storytelling. Besides I don't know how you but personaly I cant stand watching same Seagal movie over 20 times in a row... twice maybe... but since Baldurs gate, BAH! Even Wizardry, Might and Magic and many others, Dragon Age shamelessly repeats the schemata so many times overused its boring... like a drunken friend on a party that again tells the same joke you've heard already THOUSAND times and is SIMPLY NOT FUNNY... got it? What a lame fan you must be, to diss stories purely because the antagonist(s) is/are evil. I guess we should diss almost every fantasy setting because they're mostly reused formulas based on Tolkien's ideas. First of all, what a lame logic you mastered if by reading previous posts of mine, you came to a conclusion I may be a fan of this game. :D I maye be all kinds of person to DA, but certainly not a fan. I'm not a native english language speaker, but I don't need a dictionary to get what a fan means :P Grand job, honestly grand job. Also! Thank for noticing the another thing, of which I almost forgot ^^ thanks for reminding me! Of course, Tolkien's Lotr is exactly another thing this game copy-pasts :3 Oh, and yes! Tht is absolutely the argument! I love you for it :3 I meen I do diss games and stories because of them beeing repetitive and clones of each other from release to release. No one forbids you to worship them or to make games with them, but don't expect me to see them as original or something creative. It's cheep and easy way. Cheep like romantic commedies or Seagal's action movies. And I don't diss evil antagonists, as they can be absolutely awesome, but they need to be well made, not lame. For instance, I adore Warhammer fantasy setting - mostly because people there are evil in general, they have reasons to do what they do, like in Witcher, where world is not Black and White, rather full of grayness. And where people that appear to be evil, just protect their interests in a cruel political conflict, and those who seemed good from one perspective in the end appeared to be simple terrorists who gain privilages with use of force. The idea of evil that is evil to do evil, destroy, burn everything that moves is a little bit silly, sorry, but I honestly preffer stories to have something behind, not only "just because" approach.[QUOTE="ElBuro"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] i recommend you remove your sig before you are modded. also.... why bother posting in a thread about an RPG when you are clearly not a fan of RPGs? seems like a waste of your time, and ours.SkyWard20
nope.... dont get it at all. dragon age's world and lore are very well developed and fairly unique IMO... yes they use dragons and elves and magic, but in a very different way, and in a very different social structure. it takes more than watching a few videos to know what some games are all about.... i forgive you for clearly not doing your research and just making assumptions.Roland123_basic
Ow how how how :3 I see I pinched a fanboy where it hurts. It's funny that when fanboy is hurt, or it's subject of obsession is attack, he imidetly assume the attacker must have never played a game, because he refused to draw same ammount of pleasure of it, or draw anything posotive at all... or dares to have a different opinion, oh snap! :D
I forgive you that you haven't played any other RPGs in your life, perhaps then you'd have something to compare DA to, and see it's as unique as another Steven Seagal action movie among his other action movies.
That's sadly where the truth is, I bet that DA is one of few RPGs you played, if you played any other of the genere, what I honestly doubt. It's like with sex... when one has no comparison, his only girl he/she(let's be openminded, DA surely is :P) will be considered best and amazing!
Unless you live convinced that all that it takes to create unique world, lore and characters is to change their "names". Than yeah... You nailed it :D In that perspective DA is like the most original game ever!
elves and magic, but in a very different way, and in a very different social structure.
LOL You clearly haven't played other RPGs... Arcanum, the Witcher, Eye of the Beholder series (ant those I played in mid 90's! daaamn!) The list can go on and your arguments will be invalid, not because I have a pancake on my head, but because you haven't played other RPGs...
Of course there is other option, to which I presume you'd try to fit, in order to deffend yourself, and you'll try to convince me you actualy played whole lot of RPGs, but this kind of setting is fine with you... but in that case I'm sorry for you, lad. I don't get you... I also don't get people who like to spend hours looking at a brick wall as their prime mean of entertainment, but heck, guess a man has his needs.
Of course Dawn of War 2, no contest here! - Campaign was well set in the lore, although you don't know it's full charm untill you play the Chaos Rising, where plotting, treason, corruption and your squad members personal history kicks in meddling with your brain even further as you discover their background with a typical dark Imperial climate! In this world there are no good guys, everyone is a psycho maniac and a bastard, they rearly have morals and among those crude and rough characters you are there to mantain order even if it means crushing your oposition with iron boot. Besides the game itself is much more demmanding, when you got few units and got to utilize their abillities and skills wisely unlike Starcraft where you just produce masses and waste them mindlessly.
Starcraft is on the Second place imho... Many people may have false ilusion of this game having an original campaign, because it has no such thing... what it has is an ORIGINAL and eye-appealing NARRATION - with lots of eye-candy cutscenes, amazing cinematics and Jim Raynor - my favorite Blizzard character so far. However! The very campaign is abolutely mediocre - it has it's moments, the few missions where you actualy use some special characters, but other than that it is just repetitive schemata of: build the base, gather potatoes, produce cannon-fodder, waste it on the map untill you win and in adition place your units on the marked territory to finish an objective. While story itself is really clichee, opresive anti-democratic government that needs to be put down, our politicly correct hero who leads the moral revolution and saves his girl in the end, saving galaxy, while the stereotypical ancient alien evil comes to destroy everything for no particular reason... like always.
Besides so many questions were left unanwsered, nothing has came to conclusion...
Is the deal between Raynor and Mangsk solved? No
What about the prophecy? - Nothing...
Future of Zerg? - Not said...
Xel'Naga? - Whatever...
Nothing came to conclusion... if you come to think of it, we are pretty much where we started before 1st Starcraft - Zerg, Protos and Terrans and Kerrigan is a human again. That's it... of course wrapped in beautiful box of cinematics and cutscenes, touching music, still, as for Campaign, it was booring and predictable.
Not to mention that whole Starcraft was a rip off of Warhammer 40k, and don't dispute with that, Chris Matzen admitted that they were deeply inspired with table top figure Warhammer games and so in late 90's they started producing Starcraft, and before it was even announced they've send their stuff to Games Workshop company asking would they like to have a Warhammer 40k RTS that looks like that. Hence blue Space Marines and Zerg, which were first introduced in games from 80's called Rogue Trader and Space Hulk - where you led a band of spacemarines clearing ancient derelict ships of Tyranid swarm.
Grats, Blizz...
The last one is Warcraft - a big 'gaming celebrity' of my childhood, but looking at it from nowdays perspective - it is simply silly. You cant make more clichee campaign actualy. And those very ideas now seems to me not only ridiculous or pathetic but honestly dumb stupid. Like the scene where Medivh convinces King of Loraderon to pack whole his country on ships and move to Kalimdor... remember that? Remember what he said? How would you react as a king, you sit in a throne room, doing the politics and making tough decisions while all of a sudden a bird turns into a man ans says: "WE ALL GONNA DIE! You got to go to KALIMDOR! Because Dooom is upon us! Or sth! Go! Go go go!"
you know, you need some stronger arguments and perhaps factual evidence if you want people to do something like that, seriously... C'mon, two sentences about doom and cataclysm, fire and unpleasant genitalia rash aint exactly a thing that would make whole nation flee to a continent they aren't even sure that exists... In fact, this prophet imho was the dumbest retard ever to exist in Warcraft universe.
The very concept of Burning Legion, who want to destroy the world... because... why not? Is like the lamest excuse for a story... Seriously, army of evil and deamons comes to destroy the world for no particular reason... again! It's like their national sport or something?
The campaign in expansion was actualy very good in comparison to that original from Reign of Chaos - Frozen throne had some dramatic moments, weird alliances and characters that werent exactly black and white and I liked that, that wat awoken some positive emotions in me as a player
But other than that, Warcraft 3 was the worst one, mainly cause it is a stereotypic Mediaval Fantasy setting - thing repeated, cloned and coppied so often I'm already bored just thinking of it...
Despite Cataclysm... it is bit boring though... been there, done that...
[QUOTE="ElBuro"]i recommend you remove your sig before you are modded. also.... why bother posting in a thread about an RPG when you are clearly not a fan of RPGs? seems like a waste of your time, and ours. LOL XD What?! So I guess making a stereotypic copy pasta of all abused ideas already in RPG genere makes a good RPG for you? Well for me it takes something more to make an RPG good, certainly making another clone of a clone is not one of those things. Loved Witcher, Drakensang and first Gothic, mainly cause despite having a world set in Medieval Fantasy, they did it good. Witcher kept you tensed all the time, moral choices had some true impact and world was gray not black and white like in DA, Drakensang perfectly kept the atmosphere of medieval, with equipment, items looking as they were suppose to look and not some ridiculous shapes. Also, despite beeing clichee, a game released year before DA managed to keep well balanced narration, so till the very end you had no idea who's main atagonist, it presented the story page after page, as you got into it and realised that what you belived on the begining was not entirely truth. Gothic - instead of placing you in stereotypic adventure, put you to an original setting and situation, where you find yourself as a prisoner condemned to spend rest of his life in fould colony full of murdurers and criminals! And Dragon Age? In the very first scenes they showed the Dragon Arch Demon, which you were destined to kill, and like from begining you well knew how all the story is gonna end. Thats a poor, lame narration and storytelling. Besides I don't know how you but personaly I cant stand watching same Seagal movie over 20 times in a row... twice maybe... but since Baldurs gate, BAH! Even Wizardry, Might and Magic and many others, Dragon Age shamelessly repeats the schemata so many times overused its boring... like a drunken friend on a party that again tells the same joke you've heard already THOUSAND times and is SIMPLY NOT FUNNY... got it?Oh gee, again we'z gonna save the world from the army of evil that wants to destroy the world for no particular reason and we as a stereotypical chosen one, utilising magic in its most stereotypic sense, archaic gameplay and items of such a ridiculous design it is hard to tell wether its an armor you wear or a garbage container. Oh gee, it's not like we played it for last 14 years of exactly same quasi medieval fantasy RPGs... *yaaaaawns* What a joyride this gonna be... woohooo! *Yawns with certain dose of sarcasm* I just can't wait for this most original game!
All that served with mediocre graphics that try to pose as dark and violent because every time you step on a mouse you find your whole team painted red like they just took a shower in tomato soup.
Now that's a grand fun!
OH! Yeah but we can have a sex scene with character voiced by Claudia Black! I bet this game's gonna recive 9.5/10 long before it's even released, not to mention all the hyped fanboys, or 'objective reviewers' working for portals where Bioware buys out every possible advetisment space! Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Roland123_basic
Ah Dawgz! Certainly Dragon Age - which was said to be an awesome original shock to a whole genere, but was an old clichee of a clichee of a goddamn clichee, remake of Baldurs Gate, with dumb story rewritten lord of the rings, dumbed down gameplay mechanics, and idiotic 3d graphics when stepping on the mouse covered your whole team with potatoe soup all of a sudden...
Other is STARCRAFT 2 - a graphic patch to an old game from 1998... it's a god damn joke!
Diablo 2 was able to miraculously keep me interested for a long time even that it had such a simple gameplay. i'm waiting for D3, even that i'm a little afraid it might be boring...Well, whatever keeps you entertained, dawg, It's just me and my only taste... I simply cant take doing same stuff repetitively for too longgroowagon
My friend than you must try out Freelancer. An awesome game still wastly played, telling story of colonists in deep far space with futuristic space countries of different cultures fighting for supremacy, it's all about economy, political machinations, plotting, treason, and you as a lonely mercenary trying to make a living in there somehow. It has an awesome Single Campaign, very easy in handling, but more of that it is a Semi-MMO as game consists of devices that allow you to open up a server with databases for over 250+ players, and there are such free private serves opened for online gameplay for everyone. Problem is, it is a game from 2003, but aint bad looking, best you check it out on google.Hi. I'm kind of new to the genre, but i'm really interested in futuristic space RPG's. I want decent graphics. Also, I don't want to play an MMO. I want a good storyline, and few glitches if any. I'm mainly looking for more recent games (2007 and on). Also, I'm looking for a Space RTS. Would Starcraft II be the choice? Thanks.
Williwaw87
...starcraft2 are the two best space RTS games out there right now
Yeah aspeciauly wehn you like playing same old boring game with outdated gameplay from 1998 with just fancier 3d graphics, no tactical approach and strategy aspect of the game reduced to it's minimum. You better go play Ground Control - you got squads, not mass of single units, things like terrain, morale and unit experience do matter, flanking and all is important and game is truely chalenging, unlike Starcraft 2, when you just gather potatoes and spam enemy till he runs out of his potato fields...
Sorry, but imho Starcraft 2 was a joke... and an insult. 12 years of waiting and all they gave you was a graphic patch for the game from the late 90's.
Seriously, try looking at gameplay of Ground Control on youtube - you won't be dissapinted. Also an interesting story stands behind the game of two factions that long ago lost contact with earth and try to find a mythical relict ship to fix it and return home, to a legendary planet earth, from the hostile enviroment they were condemned to live in... damn it was such a good game I'm gonna play it right now!
there you go, a clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkELaZ1FmVQ&feature=related
In fact it is a game that pushed RTS genere to an evolution two years after first Star Craft, it introduced new graphics, squad battle, and first time in sci fi or modern RTS genere on such scale you could miss your target, depending on conditions, if your units were away their accuracy reduced, power of their guns also, hiding in high grass made your infantry harder to spot and hit, while the angle of impact ment a lot to an armored battle, deciding wether your tank can survive or not. Splendid I tell you!
Also Mech Commander 2 - like above! More story, grand political conflict and you as a leader of mercenary group stuck deep in the shait of fighting for supremacy! Wast possibility of customizing your machines, equiping them with weapons and items of your choice, choosing right pilots to command them, as they gained experienced and new skills you could administer them to use on the battlefield. Insanely well done! Far more superior to Star Craft!
And thats a MC2 for you, enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7QyRCth1Qg
Oh gee, again we'z gonna save the world from the army of evil that wants to destroy the world for no particular reason and we as a stereotypical chosen one, utilising magic in its most stereotypic sense, archaic gameplay and items of such a ridiculous design it is hard to tell wether its an armor you wear or a garbage container. Oh gee, it's not like we played it for last 14 years of exactly same quasi medieval fantasy RPGs... *yaaaaawns* What a joyride this gonna be... woohooo! *Yawns with certain dose of sarcasm* I just can't wait for this most original game!
All that served with mediocre graphics that try to pose as dark and violent because every time you step on a mouse you find your whole team painted red like they just took a shower in tomato soup.
Now that's a grand fun!
OH! Yeah but we can have a sex scene with character voiced by Claudia Black! I bet this game's gonna recive 9.5/10 long before it's even released, not to mention all the hyped fanboys, or 'objective reviewers' working for portals where Bioware buys out every possible advetisment space! Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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