Its not a respect factor to our fellow man because you actually validate Islam this way. You remove its criticisms, especially from an Artistic viewpoint. How about I start a religion that says "nobody can ever criticize me, and I just ask everyone to at least follow that rule" Its nonsense, everyone SHOULD be drawing mohammed out of principle. What youre describing is not maturity, but cowardice. Theres simply no way around it. How does religion deserve respect if people passionately believe in? Thats crazy talk... People passionately believe in lots of things. What matters is if the belief is legitimate, and religious belief is not a legitimate position to defend because they dont care about logic. Thats the ESSENCE of faith. Passionate religious belief is what causes violent extremists. Were lucky in the West, that the Christians really arent passionate, and its more like a social club. Otherwise, it might look like the middle east.[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"] No problem with my logic, Muslims do not want anyone drawing Muhammed, not just Muslims. Again, it's just a respect factor for our fellow man, not their beliefs. I always stand up for free speech, but think you should be held accountable for speech that's offensive (say the KKK). I'm an Atheist and believe that a Religion that anyone believes passionately about deserves respect, IMO it's called being decent. Theokhoth
You have a lot of gall to claim that religious people (all six billion of them) don't care about logic, that religious beliefs are not legitimate (who the hell are you to make such a distinction and by what ass-backwards criteria?) and that a passionate religious person is a bad thing (take a look at Turkey, one of the most Muslim-populated countries in the world, and tell me that). :roll:
Your attitude is what lead to the Crusades, the Holocaust and every other manmade atrocity in history. Humans are fundamentally deserving of respect; to say that a person doesn't deserve respect inevitably leads to dehumanizing them.
As for logic, you haven't used a damn ounce of it in this entire thread, so enough with the "we must cure religious belief with education" bullcrap. I know religious people with more education than you'll ever have and I'm sick of you insulting them and myself with your constant insults.
Faith is the absence of proof and still believing. Its exactly what faith is. If you dont know that, then you need to read more before commenting ;) "Your attitude is what lead to the Crusades, the Holocaust and every other manmade atrocity in history" Not even slightly true, completely off base and a totally random assertion. "Humans are fundamentally deserving of respect; to say that a person doesn't deserve respect inevitably leads to dehumanizing them" Yes humans deserve respect, ideas dont. Ideas are not people. The rest of your post is you arguing against beliefs I dont hold. I am not interested in strawman argument tactics. When you say I havent used any logic, how would YOU know when YOU used strawman arguments and thought it was a good idea? Yes, some educated people are religious. That does not mean education is not a tool to the eventual removal of religion. As scientific understanding and acceptance grows, I think its easy to see how religion will decline. I am just hopeful people accept and understand science more in the future.
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