@boxrekt said:
@AdobeArtist said:
This is the gaming equivalent of Flat Earth fanaticism.
Ryzen 2600X and RTX 2070 eh? Yeah, lol the PS5 will definitely more powerful than your rig!
Flat Earth and all those nonsense arguments you spit at me won't change facts.
FACT
The hardware in next gen consoles are more advanced than anything currently on the market. YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH IT! Rationalize and come to terms with reality before trying to take shots at me.
Navi is next gen GPU with RNDA not GCN! The CPU is more advanced than yours! The SSD is a CUSTOM designed drive specifically created to work with the system confirmed faster than any current SSD on the market unlike your generic SSD's you randomly threw into your rig.
You can kick rocks and throw a fit if you like but these are all confirmed FACT. Now you can go back to your flat earth non-argument jabs.
You keep shouting about "Zen 2, Zen 2!!!" as if it's a unified architecture. You do realize that there are multiple SKU's of the Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000 series) CPU's being released? Ranging in core/thread count and more importantly frequency, factoring the base speed and boost/overclock, the latter which depends on the motherboard power delivery and cooling solution.
Let's just say the Zen 2 processor going into PS5 and Scarlet will still be 8 cores (no hyperthreading) total; what you haven't taken into consideration is that the Zen going into the next gen consoles won't be the same as the desktop models available in stores for PC builds. As before this will be a proprietary version of Zen custom made for the consoles, and locked chips. The XoneX topped out at just 2.3 GHz, when every PC CPU (Intel and AMD) came out of the box at 3.2 GHz minimum, 3.6 GHz probably being the average used, and still having overhead for boost/overclock speeds, that could be anywhere from 4 GHz to 4.4 GHz with Ryzen 2, and even 5 GHz on the Intel side. So yes, even an entry level first gen Ryzen and Intel i5 could outpace "the most powerful console ever released" as well as not bottlenecking the GPU.
Sure the custom Zen 2 found in Scarlet and the PS5 will be a big leap over that archaic Jaguar, but still I'd be really really surprised if either gets up to an even 3 GHz... while PC gamers will be running processors at well over 4 GHz. This is without determining if the custom Zen 2 IPC matches the desktop chips. And as for the GPU's, with their clock speeds and Teraflops... guess we'll have to wait and see.
You are going to be getting a great graphics boost, but don't kid yourself that it'll be 8K. That's going to be for video support, not in the games. It'll also be nice if developers leverage the new hardware for a better balance of visuals and performance (fps) and not focus entirely on the eye candy.
And especially don't delude yourself that the next consoles will "crush" relatively spec'd PC's that are above entry level.... oh sorry, no, there won't be "console optimization magic" that can compensate for the technical gap. Hardware works according to actual physics, not PR talk or wishful thinking.
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