WWE Breaking Point - September 13th, 2009

I hope some Swerve happens at this PPV.

As it seemss damn obvious who's going to win in the main events.

Cena would NEVER be made to say "I Quit" and neither would the Undertaker.

Now I heard or read from somewhere that the Submission matches, are going to be only for the WWE Heavyweight, WWE Championship, and ECW Championship.

Correct me if I'm wrong about that.

But the main reason I'm asking this is 'cause is the Tag Team Championship match a Submission too, or was I right about the the three top brand Championships being on the line are the only Submission matches.

What I'm getting at is the Jeri-Show and Henry-MVP match a Submissionb match or is it a normal match, 'cause everyone thinks that Jericho will make someone Tap to the Walls of Jericho, but they don't have too.

I don't know maybe I'm typing too much, and if you want to think I'm being an ass for Typing this then go ahead and think that But I was just wondering?????

But I do agree with everyone that Cena isn't going to Quit but WWE may just have him lose by not responding, because I think Orton may not Lose just causeCena still need to have his Honeymoon with his wife and this could be a good way for Cena to exit for a while, especally with Ther Undertasker and Shawn Michaels back.

What I'm getting at is the Jeri-Show and Henry-MVP match a Submissionb match or is it a normal match, 'cause everyone thinks that Jericho will make someone Tap to the Walls of Jericho, but they don't have too.

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Yeah I know they don't have to, I was just saying what i would like to see during the match. And i said that I'd love to see Mark Henry tap, I knew that the match was not necessarily going to be under submission rules

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What I'm getting at is the Jeri-Show and Henry-MVP match a Submissionb match or is it a normal match, 'cause everyone thinks that Jericho will make someone Tap to the Walls of Jericho, but they don't have too.

lilhbk

Yeah I know they don't have to, I was just saying what i would like to see during the match. And i said that I'd love to see Mark Henry tap, I knew that the match was not necessarily going to be under submission rules

I hope there isn't any hurt feelings between us.

But I just wanted to point that out, and Yes it would be actully fully to see Henry tap to, the Walls of Jericho.

Credit: James King & Pwinsider.com

[spoiler] Dolph Ziggler vs. Rey Mysterio for the Intercontinental Title; The Undertaker vs. CM Punk for the World Heavyweight Title in a Submission Match. [/spoiler]

[spoiler] At least Undertaker has a submission move for the match. For the Rey vs Dolph match, I can see Dolph winning, and moving Rey to the title hunt. [/spoiler]

[spoiler] It doesn't but it's either Kane-Khali or Kane-Rey if Rey does feud with Kane when he returns from his suspension. [/spoiler]

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Breaking Point Update:

World Heavyweight Championship - Submission Match
The Undertaker vs. CM Punk (c)

No way Punk is winning this. SUmmer of Punk 2009 is over folks

As of this moment, Dolph Ziggler vs. Rey Mysterio for the Intercontinental Champion is being listed as a match on Breaking Point:

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Breaking Point Update:

World Heavyweight Championship - Submission Match
The Undertaker vs. CM Punk (c)

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It's going to end in a DQ (Actually come to think of it, are there no DQ's in Submission Matches?)

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Breaking Point Update:

World Heavyweight Championship - Submission Match
The Undertaker vs. CM Punk (c)

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It's going to end in a DQ (Actually come to think of it, are there no DQ's in Submission Matches?)

According to Cena/Big Show at Extreme Rules, there's also no rope break. WWE will fail if a rope break is called.Redders1989

I'm not sure why we ever debate these things, WWE will do whatever the **** they want however the hell they want to do it. I mean, seriously, what are we going to do about it? Whine about it on a message board. *Gasp* How sharply we wound them with our words of criticism.

I'm guessing the suspension starts after Breaking Point for Rey??

regardless of the fact undertaker doesnt tap out and well its so far into his career i dont think he needs to start tapping out now punk and undertaker are probably the only two on the roster between all 3 shows that each have more than 1 submission hold and at that they each have a submission finisher on top of their several other submission holds so the whole submission match idea if it doesnt fail anywhere this will be the one match that might look like an actual submission match

so i agree with this match even if the outcome is as obvious as an undertaker wrestlemania match but still for those who order ppvs this could be a winner.

what with raw and ECW having a total lack of submission users.

No DQ? Punk beats Taker's head in with chair. Locks in Vice, Ref raises hand 3 times

Nah that would never happen

Taker taps out to....

Nah that would never happen

Interference perhaps..  

Interference perhaps..

Mu5uk0

Teddy or Vince will restart the match. :?

Even though it was a draw in this match, 'Taker has tapped out.Redders1989

That was a good match, great times back then.

Even though it was a draw in this match, 'Taker has tapped out.Redders1989

I'm hoping for a similar end at Breaking Point, they put each other on a hold simultaneously and both pass out.

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Not only is Dolph Ziggler vs. Rey Mysterio for the Intercontinental Champion still on WWE.com, but now the match is a submisssion match:

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"will Mysterio be forced to relinquish his coveted gold?"WWE

I found this funny seeing it on the match page.

Anyway, this might possible mean that there's no ECW title match and instead some sort of tag team match or at least this will be cancelled and replaced with an ECW title match.

Dolph Ziggler has a submission???lilhbk

More to the point, Rey Mysterio has a submission? Do either of them? Where are the submission specialists again (as in, people who consistently use it to win matches, not swap between that and pinfall I.E. Cena & Jericho)?

Not that it matters. Match not going to happen. At least, not on PPV.

Breaking Point Update:

Submissions Count Anywhere Match
DX vs Legacy

The MasterF*** is the only submission specialist that comes to mindlilhbk

Exactly. He's a big draw for the WWE too.

Seriously, if they were going to do a PPV like this, at least have a big name superstar that actually consistently uses a submission to be around. Long gone are the days of Angle and HWMNBN.

Personally, I cannot recall ever hearing of a Submissions Count Anywhere Match. Link256

WWE.com is announcing it as the first one ever.

I can see HBK putting Legacy in the sharpshooter.

Anyways, There's three legit submission matches in the ppv.

Has there ever been a Tag-Team Submission Match before? I can smell double tap out on Legacy.

They tap to the sharpshooter and the figure 4leg locklilhbk