PUSH's (critically) overrated games

Half Life 2jg4xchamp

Half Life 2 sure is terrible. With its unskippable cutscenes, awful gameplay, linear level design, vehicle sections and half assed physics puzzles ever 15 min making the pacing a drab, awful enemy variety, terrible AI. I didnt even find it immersive at all. The only thing the game had going for it was the fact that it avoided the plagues of modern FPS design (except for extremely linear maps).

The story wasnt even good at all.

Half Life 2 was a good game. It's just not worth all the hyperbole surrounding it. I did like Episode 2 more.

>lolCritics. I prefer pooping on niche games that have a harcore/cult following. It's more entertaining that way.

No More Heroes - Blah, speaking of hollow. I wouldnt hesitate to call it all (geeky) flash over substance

Alpha Protocol - About 1/4th of the game is good, excellent even. Yet only that 1/4th is fapped on about by fans, ignoring other elements that actually count.

Godhand to some extent. Dont get me wrong, it's good and I'll defend its charm and how well designed the difficulty scaling is. But the cult following seems to stem from those who havent played it, just as a means to **** on IGN.

Planescape: Torments' - Yeah, so the writing is great. But really, such ending would usually have divided opinions if it the same thing happened in Film, or literature. I guess it's hip to say 'Planescape: Torment' in a best videogame story thread.

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+SotC is beastmode. Other than the unhelpful map, the few gripes I have with it conclude with "let down by the aging PS2 hardware".

Some game that you like and I don't.timmy00

What did you say about my Pur-So-Nah ??? :evil:

[QUOTE="timmy00"]Some game that you like and I don't.Sagem28

What did you say about my Pur-So-Nah ??? :evil:

Some game that you like and I don't.timmy00

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW!

The Bioshock series has terrible gameplay and is only praised becaused the story is 3deep5u, excluding Infinite because I haven't played it but it looks the exact same story wise.

Anything Bioware. Appealing to bottom feeders.

 Borderlands and Far Cry 3 have incredibely boring gameplay and only get praised because co-op is fun (not an accomplishment, even the worst of games has decent co-op w/ friends)

 RDR is fine until it turns into Quality Family time!

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[QUOTE="timmy00"]Some game that you like and I don't.AcidThunder

What did you say about my Pur-So-Nah ??? :evil:

I already know your taste in gaming is sub-par at best.

But Timmy surprised me :( 

[QUOTE="AcidThunder"][QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]Some game that you like and I don't.Sagem28

What did you say about my Pur-So-Nah ??? :evil:

I already know your taste in gaming is sub-par at best.

But Timmy surprised me :( 

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Although RDR is still a good game... the shooting is lots of fun. Bioshock I would say is mediocre at best. Blabadon

I thought it had just the right amount of blood without being gratuitous and I thought that the deadeye was cool.  that being said, the game is merely good, not this freaking masterpiece everyone says it is.  Story was only good at the ending, the best character was Marsten (the rest didn't get nearly enough screentime for me to care that much) and the open world was almost devoid of FUN diversions.  Sure there was stuff to do but none of it was very much fun.

Also LOVE the avy/ sig. Amazing game. 

Although RDR is still a good game... the shooting is lots of fun. Bioshock I would say is mediocre at best. turtlethetaffer

TWEWY
Vanquish
Kid Icarus Uprising
Demon's Souls/Dark Souls (in terms of difficulty, other than that DaS is GOAT)
Batman AA/AC

There are a couple others that I don't understand the amount of praise for, but can't think of them at the moment.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Although RDR is still a good game... the shooting is lots of fun. Bioshock I would say is mediocre at best. Blabadon

borderlands? more like borelands.

RDR is fun, but nothing special.

god of war is unbearably boring.

uncharted is just meh.

mirror's edge is the go-to book on why platformers are never in first person.

and i have yet to play anything from bioware that doesn't bore me to tears.

BrunoBRS

You're such a bitter little man Bruno lol

But I agree on RDR. The concept was good and the visuals were amazing. But the world felt so empty and dull a lot of the time and I got bored. The zombie DLC was fun though

Uncharted 3 is very overrated

MGS4 is overrated

GTA IV is overrated 

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Although RDR is still a good game... the shooting is lots of fun. Bioshock I would say is mediocre at best. Blabadon

Fvcking dead eye was awesome dude 

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borderlands? more like borelands.

RDR is fun, but nothing special.

god of war is unbearably boring.

uncharted is just meh.

mirror's edge is the go-to book on why platformers are never in first person.

and i have yet to play anything from bioware that doesn't bore me to tears.

seanmcloughlin

You're such a bitter little man Bruno lol

But I agree on RDR. The concept was good and the visuals were amazing. But the world felt so empty and dull a lot of the time and I got bored. The zombie DLC was fun though

Uncharted 3 is very overrated

MGS4 is overrated

GTA IV is overrated 

 

What did you say about my Pur-So-Nah ??? :evil:

Sagem28

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW!

ChubbyGuy40

Okay except Persona. I won't hate that. :c timmy00

Timmy :3

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borderlands? more like borelands.

RDR is fun, but nothing special.

god of war is unbearably boring.

uncharted is just meh.

mirror's edge is the go-to book on why platformers are never in first person.

and i have yet to play anything from bioware that doesn't bore me to tears.

seanmcloughlin

You're such a bitter little man Bruno lol

But I agree on RDR. The concept was good and the visuals were amazing. But the world felt so empty and dull a lot of the time and I got bored. The zombie DLC was fun though

Uncharted 3 is very overrated

MGS4 is overrated

GTA IV is overrated

I honestly think Bruno is quite optimistic and positive, especially compared to a cynic like me. With conversations frequently turning into "I find something new to hate on, Bruno defends it".

Last game we had a discussion about was the new Jagged Alliance game which I started raging a lot about after hearing about research, bases and cover systems.

Halo 4 f*ck that gamespookykid143

The World Ends With You

charizard1605

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The World Ends With You

Aljosa23

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The World Ends With You

Blabadon

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The World Ends With You

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Although RDR is still a good game... the shooting is lots of fun. Bioshock I would say is mediocre at best. turtlethetaffer

I thought it had just the right amount of blood without being gratuitous and I thought that the deadeye was cool.  that being said, the game is merely good, not this freaking masterpiece everyone says it is.  Story was only good at the ending, the best character was Marsten (the rest didn't get nearly enough screentime for me to care that much) and the open world was almost devoid of FUN diversions.  Sure there was stuff to do but none of it was very much fun.

Also LOVE the avy/ sig. Amazing game. 

On pure feedback and impact and death animations? it's fantastic.

In terms of raw movement, the enemies themselves, and the part that it's full on automated? Yeah it's pretty uneventful overall in terms of gameplay. But the basic act of pressing the trigger, and watching/feeling destruction is pretty dope. jg4xchamp

I cannot believe for the life of me why they made the shooting so awful and repetitive though. It was one of the main reasons I quit the game, that boring rhythmic tapping of L1 and R1 after one another.

The first time I quit the game, I came back to it a few months later because I found this awesome user created cover art for it and because I thought I was just being whiny about it. Tried one mission, and it was the same complaint. Awful horse riding, and that boring, over-compensating lock-on TPS gunplay.

I know this isn't possible, but I might have enjoyed the game more at least if it had some sort of machine gun available to use just so it was more satisfying. The nauseating shooting might have been bearable then.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]

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Aljosa23

That's a joke by the way, hence the ":P" 

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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]Although RDR is still a good game... the shooting is lots of fun. Bioshock I would say is mediocre at best. Blabadon

I thought it had just the right amount of blood without being gratuitous and I thought that the deadeye was cool.  that being said, the game is merely good, not this freaking masterpiece everyone says it is.  Story was only good at the ending, the best character was Marsten (the rest didn't get nearly enough screentime for me to care that much) and the open world was almost devoid of FUN diversions.  Sure there was stuff to do but none of it was very much fun.

Also LOVE the avy/ sig. Amazing game. 

On pure feedback and impact and death animations? it's fantastic.

In terms of raw movement, the enemies themselves, and the part that it's full on automated? Yeah it's pretty uneventful overall in terms of gameplay. But the basic act of pressing the trigger, and watching/feeling destruction is pretty dope. jg4xchamp

I cannot believe for the life of me why they made the shooting so awful and repetitive though. It was one of the main reasons I quit the game, that boring rhythmic tapping of L1 and R1 after one another.

The first time I quit the game, I came back to it a few months later because I found this awesome user created cover art for it and because I thought I was just being whiny about it. Tried one mission, and it was the same complaint. Awful horse riding, and that boring, over-compensating lock-on TPS gunplay.

I know this isn't possible, but I might have enjoyed the game more at least if it had some sort of machine gun available to use just so it was more satisfying. The nauseating shooting might have been bearable then.

For whom it may concern, I haven't played BiS or LO, I was just asking because I assumed someone who would make that bold a statement about a genre would have played some of its bigwigs

 You can turn autolock off.

It just doesn't make up for the rest of the game. jg4xchamp

The best part I can say about the game is that the scenery is absolutely fantastic as is the atmosphere. Traveling across it is an absolute pain since they decided that some weirdass stamina bar was a good idea for horses even though the third best horse in the game can barely run for more than twenty seconds at a time.

Wish they had just copied OoT on that part. 

A Google search actually allowed me to enjoy RDR's plot a bit.

Didn't GTA4 have a fully functioning TPS mode though that was comparable with more pure TPS games? 

The World Ends With You>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>F*cking Lost Odyssey.

You take the thousand dreams write ups out of that game, and it has nothing worth a damn to offer. The combat system is pretty standard stuff for a JRPG, where as TWEWY actually has something unique to offer with its combat system, and it's frankly a deeper one as well. Plus TWEWYs tone ultimately stays the same, Lost Odyssey starts kind of sweet, and then gets into pure JRPG bullsh1t territory of oh look lets save the world from evil f*cking wizard guy nonsense. Overall that game is entertaining in its own right for its old school nature, but it's also old school to a fault.

Haven't played Xenoblade, want to. Bowser's Inside Story? In terms of writing? Sure it's pretty clever, the actual game? I'd still go with TWEWY here. jg4xchamp

This is a great post. Browny approves of it all. 

A Google search actually allowed me to enjoy RDR's plot a bit.

Didn't GTA4 have a fully functioning TPS mode though that was comparable with more pure TPS games? 

Blabadon

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The World Ends With You

Blabadon

That's a joke by the way, hence the ":P" 

[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"]BioShock: Infinite. Don't see how it got a 9.0 when Metro 2033 got a 7.5. Sagem28

Infinite is a 7.5 game at best. 

Punch yourself in the dick. 

On topic:

Half-Life 2. I will not say any other game is overrated on the sole merit that it is an incredibly mediocre shooter that has had the industry collectively sucking Valve's cock for the last ten years. 

Though Halo 4 was pretty bad. 

fun fact, i have yet to play any half life game.BrunoBRS

You are not missing out. Half Life pretty much popularized the bubonic plague of gaming.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]fun fact, i have yet to play any half life game.Maroxad

You are not missing out. Half Life pretty much popularized the bubonic plague of gaming.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]fun fact, i have yet to play any half life game.BrunoBRS

You are not missing out. Half Life pretty much popularized the bubonic plague of gaming.

While there are no QTEs in half life, setpieces exist. So do cutscenes, difference is, in Half Life they are all unskippable, and you can bop your head around and walk around in a locked room.

Half Life was a huge popularizer in cinematic gameplay which is the worst thing to happen gaming imo, the bubonic plague of gaming.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]fun fact, i have yet to play any half life game.Maroxad

You are not missing out. Half Life pretty much popularized the bubonic plague of gaming.

While there are no QTEs in half life, setpieces exist. So do cutscenes, difference is, in Half Life they are all unskippable, and you can bop your head around and walk around in a locked room.

Half Life was a huge popularizer in cinematic gameplay which is the worst thing to happen gaming imo, the bubonic plague of gaming.

and videogames are what makes kids so violent these days.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]fun fact, i have yet to play any half life game.BrunoBRS

You are not missing out. Half Life pretty much popularized the bubonic plague of gaming.

While there are no QTEs in half life, setpieces exist. So do cutscenes, difference is, in Half Life they are all unskippable, and you can bop your head around and walk around in a locked room.

Half Life was a huge popularizer in cinematic gameplay which is the worst thing to happen gaming imo, the bubonic plague of gaming.

and videogames are what makes kids so violent these days.

Are you saying that Half Life was not a huge part in popularizing cinematic gameplay? It wasnt just Half Life, nor was Half Life the first game with cinematic design or setpieces, but Half Life was one of the major contributors towards the shift towards cinematic gaming.

If this discussion keeps up it wont take long for it to turn into a HL bashing thread.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Maroxad"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]fun fact, i have yet to play any half life game.Maroxad

You are not missing out. Half Life pretty much popularized the bubonic plague of gaming.

While there are no QTEs in half life, setpieces exist. So do cutscenes, difference is, in Half Life they are all unskippable, and you can bop your head around and walk around in a locked room.

Half Life was a huge popularizer in cinematic gameplay which is the worst thing to happen gaming imo, the bubonic plague of gaming.

and videogames are what makes kids so violent these days.

Are you saying that Half Life was not a huge part in popularizing cinematic gameplay? It wasnt just Half Life, nor was Half Life the first game with cinematic design or setpieces, but Half Life was one of the major contributors towards the shift towards cinematic gaming.

If this discussion keeps up it wont take long for it to turn into a HL bashing thread.

trends happen over time. you can't say that resi 4 and gears single handedly turned shooters into brown cover based crap, or that CoD is the game responsible for the "modern military surge" in games. there are a lot of factors, in and out of games, that affect the begin and end of those trends, it's more than "this game is praised let's make more of it".

i think you're too quick to pin the "blame" (if there's anything to be blamed for to begin with) on a single game.

trends happen over time. you can't say that resi 4 and gears single handedly turned shooters into brown cover based crap, or that CoD is the game responsible for the "modern military surge" in games. there are a lot of factors, in and out of games, that affect the begin and end of those trends, it's more than "this game is praised let's make more of it".

BrunoBRS

I never said it was just half life.

It was multiple games, but Half Life is one of those that contributed the most.

I don't know, Half Life has a lot of faults, but criticizing it for popularizing cinematic gaming just feels wrong, since it at least strove towards some form of interactivity in its storytelling.

I don't think Half Life can be blamed for 'modern cinematic gaming' at all.

These I still enjoy, but I still wish to talk about

Metal Gear Solid 2 (my first MG game and the supremely convoluted plot did not help, MGS3 made me a fan though)

Perfect Dark Zero (not as awful as most PD fans say, but no way in hell is it worth 8-9 and it does show how downhill Rare went)

Super Mario Galaxy 2 (looking at it in more recent eyes as I probably said otherwise before, but the improvements and powerups make it feel more like an expansion pack, more so than a sequel) 

Metroid: Other M (like PDZ, not as awful as fans say, but the flaws make me wonder about how it was praised by most others)

Zelda: Twilight Princess 

borderlands? more like borelands.

RDR is fun, but deserves more than the score it got.

god of war is unbearably boring.

uncharted is pretty good.

mirror's edge is the go-to book on why platformers should always have insanely good visual design and be in first person.

and i have yet to play anything from bioware that doesn't bore me to tears.

BrunoBRS