Xbox Scorpio Reveal Coming This Thursday At 6am PT

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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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There you have it, folks.

In for the ride and to see what Microsoft has been working on.

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#2  Edited By commander
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I'm very curious

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Awesome to let DF get a hold of it and do it. No bias and fanboyism involved it will either be impressive tech or meh. So the hater will either be silenced or come out in masses. But I'm pretty confident that that will be silenced especially if MS is cool with DF dropping the info, MS gleaming with confidence going about it this way!

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#4 drummerdave9099
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Can we get a price as well please?

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#5  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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A lot of tech talk, and most people won't understand most of it (including me), although I'm 100% sure that tormentos and ron will have completely different interpretations of the article content.

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@drummerdave9099 said:

Can we get a price as well please?

Probably not until E3

@xxyetixx said:

Awesome to let DF get a hold of it and do it. No bias and fanboyism involved it will either be impressive tech or meh. So the hater will either be silenced or come out in masses. But I'm pretty confident that that will be silenced especially if MS is cool with DF dropping the info, MS gleaming with confidence going about it this way!

Yeah, this is a smart move

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The price will probably be what sells me on this. I have my original Xbox One and have thought about going to the S for the 4K Bluray player, but if the Scorpio is priced reasonably I'll probably upgrade. I'm guessing it would be smart to do so for Halo 6.

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#8  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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THIS COULD BE the ultimate Multiplats console for non pc gamers

Imagine how many PC"s this console will destroy in resolution imagine how many pc gamers will have weaker specs than this box at this price its just sick

I'm feeling its gonna be

Xbox One X - $499 (what the original xbox one shoulda been tagline no kinect just extra gaming power)

and were gonna get a halo 3 anniversary as well as fable 4 launching on this puppy

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Good its officially confirmed now can't wait .

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#10  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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finally. let the rumors and vapor-hype end, and let's move on to reality and whatever hype that may or may not warrant

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@drummerdave9099 said:

Can we get a price as well please?

Microsoft will save that for E3.

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6am! Wtf!?

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As much as I'm curious to know more about the console, have to say it's the price that will finally define the success or failure of it. Go above 500-550$ and you'll sign your death sentence.

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@mjorh said:

As much as I'm curious to know more about the console, have to say it's the price that will finally define the success or failure of it. Go above 500-550$ and you'll sign your death sentence.

Whatever the price is, we will probably not know until E3.

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@charizard1605: Yeah that's the most likely case.

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Just excited to finally see what is in this beast and for Microsoft to allow a third party to announce the hardware is pretty cool. I think they know they have something special this time around!

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Only 2 more days! I'm hyped.

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@Xabiss said:

Just excited to finally see what is in this beast and for Microsoft to allow a third party to announce the hardware is pretty cool. I think they know they have something special this time around!

Every time you heard a so call PC gamer call scorpio a beast one just want to laugh..lol

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Awesome to let DF get a hold of it and do it. No bias and fanboyism involved it will either be impressive tech or meh. So the hater will either be silenced or come out in masses. But I'm pretty confident that that will be silenced especially if MS is cool with DF dropping the info, MS gleaming with confidence going about it this way!

Are you serious? DF Leadbetter was MS number one suck up,and did quite allot of propaganda for DX12,ESRAM and the cloud,it was when the truth could not be hid any more that DF had to come face the facts and resolution gate article came out.

Have you people forgot the endless interviews with MS engineers.?

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A lot of tech talk, and most people won't understand most of it (including me), although I'm 100% sure that tormentos and ron will have completely different interpretations of the article content.

No i am sure Scorpio will be a great machine power wise and stronger than the PS4 Pro,just nothing magical.

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Excited

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#20  Edited By koko-goal
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Look at the replies to that tweet, xbots believe that Digital Foundry is biased... drolls.

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Good to know thanks....looking forward to it. I'm expecting a high price tag, to me this will be the console version of the Elite controller. Glad I finally upgraded to a 4K TV and got that out of the way as it took a huge amount of research.

I'm already impressed with how HDR games look on the X1S, so it will be interesting to see how those same games will look on the Scorpio with a significant res upgrade as well.

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#22  Edited By Xabiss
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@tormentos said:
@Xabiss said:

Just excited to finally see what is in this beast and for Microsoft to allow a third party to announce the hardware is pretty cool. I think they know they have something special this time around!

Every time you heard a so call PC gamer call scorpio a beast one just want to laugh..lol

Oh the but hurt in old Tormentos is already coming out. Sorry I look at consoles and PCs as two different beast that can't really be compared. As a console this will be the most powerful console that has ever been created! Compared to other consoles this thing will be a beast if they upgraded the CPU and the GPU like everyone believes. The main component that has to be upgraded in this system is the CPU or it will be a complete fail!

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Incoming flop. :P

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@Pedro said:

Incoming flop. :P

Wut. Why 0_0

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Meh my Xbox one functions just as a Netflix player. Haven't been here in a while or seen any news so I might be very wrong so apologies if I'm not aware of something awesome revealed in the past 2 months.

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@charizard1605 said:
@Pedro said:

Incoming flop. :P

Wut. Why 0_0

Because this is the System Wars.

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I'm praying for zen....

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@stereointegrity said:

I'm praying for zen....

You god is dead because its not going to be zen.

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@charizard1605 said:

There you have it, folks.

In for the ride and to see what Microsoft has been working on.

You should consider making this thread sticky just to counter Scorpio thread spamming.

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@davillain- said:
@charizard1605 said:

There you have it, folks.

In for the ride and to see what Microsoft has been working on.

You should consider making this thread sticky just to counter Scorpio thread spamming.

I will if it comes to it, for sure

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@Xabiss said:

Oh the but hurt in old Tormentos is already coming out. Sorry I look at consoles and PCs as two different beast that can't really be compared. As a console this will be the most powerful console that has ever been created! Compared to other consoles this thing will be a beast if they upgraded the CPU and the GPU like everyone believes. The main component that has to be upgraded in this system is the CPU or it will be a complete fail!

Yeah save your damage control argument and fixing for another day fake PC gamer..lol

Yes as a console the Pro is the most powerful console ever created never herd you call it a beast..lol

Oh wait it is on MS side that you call console beast..

The most powerful console argument doesn't say much the PS4 was for 3 years with just 1.8TF,today we have 12TF GPU by this holiday even more so 6TF is hardly a beast in any way,even less if their pair it with a Ryzen version of Jaguar..

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Quoting myself for future ownage.

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/rumor-eurogamer-df-microsoft-to-talk-about-the-sco-33386527/?page=2#js-message-354925704

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windows central developer blog has been saying the price is probably in the $700 range for about a month. The reason being is that the hardware is a brand new CPU/GPU thats up to the hype and can actually run games in native 4K. Its about the same price as a mid ranged gaming rig with the benefit of it being plug n play.

That was always my guess, $599 base $699 bigger HDD. People keep saying that it would be stupid to price it that high, but MS has consistently said its not supposed to be the new standard console for the gen which is the S, its a premium product for the fans like the Elite controller. They arent expecting it to sell in huge numbers, even though it will if it lives up to the hype.

Either way, I'm ready to see it and will be buying one day one.

The flagship game they have been showing off for it to reporters is Forza 7 in native 4K (GT Sport in the rearview lol), also something I expected. And as a Forza fan, that alone is worth the price of admission.

Cant wait for Xbox Fanfest this year I hope its not stupidly overcrowded now. Last year they expected 800 people and 2000 came. With the Scorpio reveal ahead of E3 the place is gonna be swamped.



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@drummerdave9099 said:

Can we get a price as well please?

$749, comes with 2 controllers and 2 years of Live

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#37 ShadowDeathX
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Like I've said before;

If Jaguar or Puma based, then meh but it will around the $399 cost.

If Zen based, then good and it might be around the $449 - $499 cost.

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#38  Edited By UNcartMe
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All that power and no AAA exclusives to play it on. Bad move by MS.

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Jag/Puma, i bet. Be Bottlenecked like the pro.

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Dont care about the Xbone but id be interested in a new controller for my PC

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good to know we'll finally get some solid information rather than the endless speculation.. From what I understand, Project Scorpio is going to be made by the same engineering team that does the Surface line of PCs.. which is good news in terms of quality, but bad news in terms of a potential price point. Surface products are definitely "premium" and come with a hefty price tag..

The more I hear about the potential specs, the more i'm thinking they may be truly future-proofing the console and ensuring no compromises, even in the face of the eventual PS5 announcement.. which means that it may indeed come at a relatively high price today but the specs will still hold up in the face of Sony's next offering.. and by that time, price drops will put it back into striking distance for the more casual consumers..

Personally, I was hoping for a mic drop price of $399 at E3.. Realistically, I was wagering it would actually be priced at $499.. but with these rumored capabilities, Spencer's insistence that the Xbox One S is going to be their mass market console, and the potential need to future-proof against PS5, I can see them releasing a true no-compromise console at $599~ or more.. I guess we'll all find out soon enough..

I do know if they plan to release the console at $599 or more, they may need to avoid announcing that on the E3 stage.. it probably needs to be a quiet press release some time later in the month or even relatively close to the actual release date.. because even though the logic behind such a decision would be boldly made with a long-term outlook and made with the knowledge that the Xbox One S will still be on the market for $249 (or even less) plus XPA games will also exist on Windows 10 PCs with a unified install base regardless, the gaming media and fanboys alike will just scream it's DOA and that narrative will totally overshadow any positive news cycle they can garner from their E3 stage briefing.. they could showcase the most impressive games on the planet but it wouldn't matter in the face of "Scorpio is DOA" headlines.. and the last thing the Xbox division needs are negative headlines..

As much as Scorpio is going to be a great option for console fans who want the most out of a 4K TV setup, Microsoft is going to be walking a tight rope with the power versus price narrative.. if it's priced competitively at $399 but doesn't do native 4K/60fps in every game, it'll be "the Scorpio is half-assed just like the PS4 Pro".. if it's an absolute powerhouse that does everything they've said and more but it's priced above $399, it'll be "the Scorpio will never sell any meaningful number of units".. Even as a fan, i'm not sure how Microsoft is going to be able to effectively navigate that minefield but here's to hoping they figure it out.. Thursday is going to be an interesting day indeed..

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@Antwan3K: yea remember when phil announced xb1 was 499 he didn't get any cheers or claps but when sony did ps4 at 399 there was a ton of claps and cheers at e3

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Awesome. I'm so hyped for this, can't wait. I was considering replacing my original Xbox One with the Xbox One S when it came out but am just going to hold out for the Scorpio.

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@xboxiphoneps3 said:

@Random_Matt: putting a 6 TFLOP (baby Vega?) GPU in Scorpio than with over 320 GB/s bandwidth would be a waste of money for Msoft paired with Jaguar/Puma unless it's clocked to around 3.0 GHZ per core because it would just be quite bottlenecked in many scenarios so I doubt that. It'll absolutely be more balanced then Pro

Why would they show off the CPU with 4k on it if its the same one in ps4/xb1 doesn't make any sense were getting a new cpu chip its not gonna be the same in one xb1 or ps4 thats what they've been showing a new cpu with the word 4k on it this isn't gonna be the same one its gonna crush the ps4 and xbone cpu

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@Antwan3K: yea remember when phil announced xb1 was 499 he didn't get any cheers or claps but when sony did ps4 at 399 there was a ton of claps and cheers at e3

yep, I definitely remember that.. I was watching it and, after hearing the $399 price of the PS4, I texted my PlayStation buddies and told them that Sony won E3 that year on that price announcement alone.. If Microsoft announces some crazy price like $699 for the Scorpio, you can expect a similar reaction from both the crowd and the general gaming public.. maybe worse..

If they plan to do a price like that, they need to announce it as close to the console launch as possible.. depending on the specs, hardcore guys like me will pick it up but they can kiss any measure of mass market appeal goodbye.. which is kind of what they've been hinting at, "aiming it at the hardcore console gamer" and leaving the Xbox One S for the casual market..

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#49  Edited By Shewgenja
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@Antwan3K said:

good to know we'll finally get some solid information rather than the endless speculation.. From what I understand, Project Scorpio is going to be made by the same engineering team that does the Surface line of PCs.. which is good news in terms of quality, but bad news in terms of a potential price point. Surface products are definitely "premium" and come with a hefty price tag..

The more I hear about the potential specs, the more i'm thinking they may be truly future-proofing the console and ensuring no compromises, even in the face of the eventual PS5 announcement.. which means that it may indeed come at a relatively high price today but the specs will still hold up in the face of Sony's next offering.. and by that time, price drops will put it back into striking distance for the more casual consumers..

Personally, I was hoping for a mic drop price of $399 at E3.. Realistically, I was wagering it would actually be priced at $499.. but with these rumored capabilities, Spencer's insistence that the Xbox One S is going to be their mass market console, and the potential need to future-proof against PS5, I can see them releasing a true no-compromise console at $599~ or more.. I guess we'll all find out soon enough..

I do know if they plan to release the console at $599 or more, they may need to avoid announcing that on the E3 stage.. it probably needs to be a quiet press release some time later in the month or even relatively close to the actual release date.. because even though the logic behind such a decision would be boldly made with a long-term outlook and made with the knowledge that the Xbox One S will still be on the market for $249 (or even less) plus XPA games will also exist on Windows 10 PCs with a unified install base regardless, the gaming media and fanboys alike will just scream it's DOA and that narrative will totally overshadow any positive news cycle they can garner from their E3 stage briefing.. they could showcase the most impressive games on the planet but it wouldn't matter in the face of "Scorpio is DOA" headlines.. and the last thing the Xbox division needs are negative headlines..

As much as Scorpio is going to be a great option for console fans who want the most out of a 4K TV setup, Microsoft is going to be walking a tight rope with the power versus price narrative.. if it's priced competitively at $399 but doesn't do native 4K/60fps in every game, it'll be "the Scorpio is half-assed just like the PS4 Pro".. if it's an absolute powerhouse that does everything they've said and more but it's priced above $399, it'll be "the Scorpio will never sell any meaningful number of units".. Even as a fan, i'm not sure how Microsoft is going to be able to effectively navigate that minefield but here's to hoping they figure it out.. Thursday is going to be an interesting day indeed..

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Ah, yes. "Futureproofing" and the millions of kids waiting to work two jobs to have one. Always a recipe for success.

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Phil Spencer already hinted the price range will be.

In a lengthy interview with AusGamers, Spencer discusses the fine balance Microsoft wishes to strike between each component in it new console. He hopes that this carefully distributed power will provide optimum performance, but also keep the console's cost low.

"When you talk to me about Scorpio, the term I use about the architecture isn't the six teraflops which is obviously what we've announced, it's balance," says Spencer. "Really what it is, is you want a platform that is balanced between memory bandwidth, GPU power, you know, your ability to move memory and [an] amount of memory around in many ways is more inhibiting to the performance of your game than absolute teraflops on any one of the individual pieces, and when we designed Scorpio we really thought about this balanced rig that could come together at a price-point."

Like, I want Scorpio to be at a console price-point," he continues. "I'm not trying to go and compete with a high-end rig. And because we're building one spec, we're able to look at the balance between all the components and make sure that it's something we really hit that matters to consumers and gamers."

Console price is 399 or 499 dollars.