Will this generation be the first time Nintendo ends in last place?

I thought the Mega Drive outsold the SNES. Shame people are forgetting the Sega consoles.

35cent

These kids are too young to remember Sega man :P

I thought the Mega Drive outsold the SNES. Shame people are forgetting the Sega consoles.

35cent

Most likely, cuz they don't have games.

[QUOTE="35cent"]

I thought the Mega Drive outsold the SNES. Shame people are forgetting the Sega consoles.

R4gn4r0k

These kids are too young to remember Sega man :P

Most likely, cuz they don't have games.

PhazonBlazer

Nintendo's track record with consoles is impressive: after thirty years and five consoles on the market, they have never ever had a console that ended in last place. But with this coming generation and the struggles of the Wii U, does someone think that impressive streak will be coming to an end? Or does the Wii U have a legitimate shot at pulling itself out of the hole that it dug for itself and ending up in at least second place?

EDIT: Right, since a lot of people on here seem to have poor memories:

Third Generation:

1. Nintendo Entertainment System
2. Sega Master System
3. Atari 7800

Fourth Generation:

1. Super Nintendo Entertainment System
2. Sega Genesis/Mega Drive
3. TurboGrafx-16

Fifth Generation:

1. PlayStation
2. Nintendo 64
3. Sega Saturn

Sixth Generation:

1. PlayStation 2
2. Xbox
3. Nintendo Gamecube
4. Dreamcast

Seventh Generation:

1. Wii
2. PlayStation 3
3. Xbox 360

charizard1605

If that's the case and your argument contradicts mine in terms of consoles within a generation (the DC), then yours is completely contradictory since you left out quite a number of consoles for each of those generation :lol:

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Nintendo's track record with consoles is impressive: after thirty years and five consoles on the market, they have never ever had a console that ended in last place. But with this coming generation and the struggles of the Wii U, does someone think that impressive streak will be coming to an end? Or does the Wii U have a legitimate shot at pulling itself out of the hole that it dug for itself and ending up in at least second place?

EDIT: Right, since a lot of people on here seem to have poor memories:

Third Generation:

1. Nintendo Entertainment System
2. Sega Master System
3. Atari 7800

Fourth Generation:

1. Super Nintendo Entertainment System
2. Sega Genesis/Mega Drive
3. TurboGrafx-16

Fifth Generation:

1. PlayStation
2. Nintendo 64
3. Sega Saturn

Sixth Generation:

1. PlayStation 2
2. Xbox
3. Nintendo Gamecube
4. Dreamcast

Seventh Generation:

1. Wii
2. PlayStation 3
3. Xbox 360

KingsofQueens

If that's the case and your argument contradicts mine in terms of consoles within a generation (the DC), then yours is completely contradictory since you left out quite a number of consoles for each of those generation :lol:

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Ouya I have no problems counting. Is SteamBox a console? R4gn4r0k

By definition I guess it is - it's a machine with an OS designed for gaming, has a dedicated controller and ports for gaming.

I disagree. I don't know many consoles that are open like the steambox and basically say: "If you want to hack or modify this stuff or put different software or another OS on it: no problem."

Well the Ouya for one. But what makes it not a console, just because you can hack it freely?

[QUOTE="35cent"]

I thought the Mega Drive outsold the SNES. Shame people are forgetting the Sega consoles.

charizard1605

I thought it outsold the SNES everywhere. Oh well, I'm probably mistaken., I live in Europe, so that's probably why I thought that :P

I thought the Mega Drive outsold the SNES. Shame people are forgetting the Sega consoles.

35cent

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Nintendo's track record with consoles is impressive: after thirty years and five consoles on the market, they have never ever had a console that ended in last place. But with this coming generation and the struggles of the Wii U, does someone think that impressive streak will be coming to an end? Or does the Wii U have a legitimate shot at pulling itself out of the hole that it dug for itself and ending up in at least second place?

EDIT: Right, since a lot of people on here seem to have poor memories:

Third Generation:

1. Nintendo Entertainment System
2. Sega Master System
3. Atari 7800

Fourth Generation:

1. Super Nintendo Entertainment System
2. Sega Genesis/Mega Drive
3. TurboGrafx-16

Fifth Generation:

1. PlayStation
2. Nintendo 64
3. Sega Saturn

Sixth Generation:

1. PlayStation 2
2. Xbox
3. Nintendo Gamecube
4. Dreamcast

Seventh Generation:

1. Wii
2. PlayStation 3
3. Xbox 360

charizard1605

If that's the case and your argument contradicts mine in terms of consoles within a generation (the DC), then yours is completely contradictory since you left out quite a number of consoles for each of those generation :lol:

Atari, Amiga, JVC, 3DO, Neo-Geo, CDi just to name a few. 

But that was MY POINT. You simply didn't list them because they were either WEREN'T POPULAR or DIDnt sell well to the point of being Phased out. And the Dreamcast was prime example of that. 

Gamecube was last....yes it was.

Well the Ouya for one. But what makes it not a console, just because you can hack it freely?

_Matt_

Because it's open. You aren't limited by Valve on what software you use on it or what games you play on it. That's a fundamental difference from other consoles out there and makes it more like a PC to me.

Same with the Ouya: it has Android so that makes it more open than other consoles so in my eyes it's not just a console.

[QUOTE="35cent"]

I thought the Mega Drive outsold the SNES. Shame people are forgetting the Sega consoles.

nintendoboy16

Yeah, everyone I knew had a Mega Drive back then. I only know two people had a SNES. Talk about getting the wrong system man :P

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]

YOU can go by that if you see it that way, and arguing with you will likely be pointless. 

But I'm sticking to my point. 

charizard1605

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Nintendo's track record with consoles is impressive: after thirty years and five consoles on the market, they have never ever had a console that ended in last place. But with this coming generation and the struggles of the Wii U, does someone think that impressive streak will be coming to an end? Or does the Wii U have a legitimate shot at pulling itself out of the hole that it dug for itself and ending up in at least second place?

EDIT: Right, since a lot of people on here seem to have poor memories:

Third Generation:

Nintendo Entertainment SystemSega Master SystemAtari 7800

Fourth Generation:

Super Nintendo Entertainment SystemSega Genesis/Mega DriveTurboGrafx-16

Fifth Generation:

PlayStationNintendo 64Sega Saturn

Sixth Generation:

PlayStation 2XboxNintendo GamecubeDreamcast

Seventh Generation:

WiiPlayStation 3Xbox 360

charizard1605

If that's the case and your argument contradicts mine in terms of consoles within a generation (the DC), then yours is completely contradictory since you left out quite a number of consoles for each of those generation :lol:

both the N64 and GC were last place in sales.

Gue1

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

Well the Ouya for one. But what makes it not a console, just because you can hack it freely?

R4gn4r0k

Because it's open. You aren't limited by Valve on what software you use on it or what games you play on it. That's a fundamental difference from other consoles out there and makes it more like a PC to me.

Same with the Ouya: it has Android so that makes it more open than other consoles so in my eyes it's not just a console.

I can agree with this for the most part. Consoles have to have some kind of boundary, so it might as well be open vs. closed system.

That said... I think WiiU will end last unless something happens to put it ahead by sheer technicalities or fairly unpopular systems like the 3DO and Neo-Geo, which are forgotten on that list. I could be wrong though; anything could happen within a gen.

Off-topic: The thing is systems sold really doesn't mean much all in all, but I guess that's not really the point for this topic. I can sell half the amount of a low cost system for a slightly higher price than its parts and make ends meet with a high cost system with a lower price for its parts with more units sold. In the end, lower cost=lower price but with slight markup, and higher cost= lower price in reason to look appealing. Of course there are several more factors, but you get my drift.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]

YOU can go by that if you see it that way, and arguing with you will likely be pointless. 

But I'm sticking to my point. 

Thecongregation

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]

If that's the case and your argument contradicts mine in terms of consoles within a generation (the DC), then yours is completely contradictory since you left out quite a number of consoles for each of those generation :lol:

KingsofQueens

Atari, Amiga, JVC, 3DO, Neo-Geo, CDi just to name a few. 

But that was MY POINT. You simply didn't list them because they were either WEREN'T POPULAR or DIDnt sell well to the point of being Phased out. And the Dreamcast was prime example of that. 

nintendo lost to microsoft on the gamecube gen, somehow.BrunoBRS

Why are people even having this discussion?

Nintendo was never last place in sales, this gen they realistically COULD be.  I don't get why there's an argument regarding this.

We need a new sheep king NOW. Can't wait until SWA. :evil:

It will sell better than the Ouya. 

Nintendo is already in last place.......and WiiU a big failure for Nintendo.AtariKidX

We need a new sheep king NOW. Can't wait until SWA. :evil:

Jonwh18

Dont worry Charizard, im sure you will inculde Ouya or Steam Boxes in your sales list to keep the Wii U out of last place :P

It will sell better than the Ouya. 

emgesp

That doesn't count. It plays phone games.

Nintendo is already in last place.......and WiiU a big failure for Nintendo.AtariKidX

Hopefully.