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Instead of going on a rant like my other post, Ill ask you guys and then counter the argument. I feel all this COD hate going around the gaming community is alienating us from most gamers and fails in logical reasoning and would love to hear your thoughts. deadlyabdus123
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cause its rehash city,crappy engine,meh gameplay and animations that looked good last gen but now just look horid,robotic and generally reek of rehash.Not to mention an engine older than time itself.
[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]Instead of going on a rant like my other post, Ill ask you guys and then counter the argument. I feel all this COD hate going around the gaming community is alienating us from most gamers and fails in logical reasoning and would love to hear your thoughts. razgriz_101
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cause its rehash city,crappy engine,meh gameplay and animations that looked good last gen but now just look horid,robotic and generally reek of rehash.Not to mention an engine older than time itself.
Isint Fallout: new Vegas more of same, isint, every madden more of the same? Why lose a winning formula, Fallout is boring as hell, im very impatient with it. COD I can pick up and play any time. BF is a better game and much more tactical, doesent make it more fun.I have bought every COD game since COD4. I don't hate it, I'm just tired of it... MW3 looks more of the same.SaltyMeatballsSame here, and while the series has always been solid and consistent it brings absolutely nothing new to the table with each new iteration.
[QUOTE="razgriz_101"][QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]Instead of going on a rant like my other post, Ill ask you guys and then counter the argument. I feel all this COD hate going around the gaming community is alienating us from most gamers and fails in logical reasoning and would love to hear your thoughts. deadlyabdus123
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cause its rehash city,crappy engine,meh gameplay and animations that looked good last gen but now just look horid,robotic and generally reek of rehash.Not to mention an engine older than time itself.
Isint Fallout: new Vegas more of same, isint, every madden more of the same? Why lose a winning formula, Fallout is boring as hell, im very impatient with it. COD I can pick up and play any time. BF is a better game and much more tactical, doesent make it more fun.new vegas made massive improvements over FO3
Deeper crafting,not feeling overpowered,better sequel in terms of gameplay but not story it was a good improvement over FO3 despite some parts being disjointed.Trust me if you played new vegas you would know what im meaning its a much much much deeper game in terms of character developement and various other aspects, despite its flaws.
Madden i only buy every 3 years cause i dont bother bout players and unless the change was big enough from one year to the next then i might consider it.Over the past 2 gens i've only bought Madden 2003,2008 and 2011.
BF is way more fun than cod if you find the right people to play with and not a bunch of lone wolf bush wookie tank beasting idiots.
I duuno, there just something fishy about Cod. :twisted:
I've never been much a fan of the series and in fact the last one I purchased was CoD 2. :o
But do games like that need evolution? deadlyabdus123ALL series need evolution. If they don't evolve, they stagnate. And the further along the series is, the more evolution it needs to stay relevant. But CoD has been the same game for every one of its iterations. The series started in 2003 and has had at least 10 different games on multiple platforms... and none of them have been different from one another. What I hate most about the CoD series is what its success is doing to the rest of the industry... making developers just stick to what works and not trying anything new, just to make the most money. It makes me fear for the future of games as art, rather than just a business product.
Isint Fallout: new Vegas more of same, isint, every madden more of the same? Why lose a winning formula, Fallout is boring as hell, im very impatient with it. COD I can pick up and play any time. BF is a better game and much more tactical, doesent make it more fun.[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]
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cause its rehash city,crappy engine,meh gameplay and animations that looked good last gen but now just look horid,robotic and generally reek of rehash.Not to mention an engine older than time itself.
razgriz_101
new vegas made massive improvements over FO3
Deeper crafting,not feeling overpowered,better sequel in terms of gameplay but not story it was a good improvement over FO3 despite some parts being disjointed.Trust me if you played new vegas you would know what im meaning its a much much much deeper game in terms of character developement and various other aspects, despite its flaws.
Madden i only buy every 3 years cause i dont bother bout players and unless the change was big enough from one year to the next then i might consider it.Over the past 2 gens i've only bought Madden 2003,2008 and 2011.
BF is way more fun than cod if you find the right people to play with and not a bunch of lone wolf bush wookie tank beasting idiots.
Deeper player enhancements (theatre mode, wager mode), not feeling unbalanced, better n terms of pace but not story and a good improvement over mw2 despite using an older engine. Trust me, if you ever played Black ops, you know what im meaning its a much much much deeper game in terms of multiplayer balance and various other aspects, despite its flaws. See what I did there, New Vegas is not an evolution like Sky Rim is to Oblivion, it is the same old engine tacked on with new features, many gaming sites even express this....[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]But do games like that need evolution? foxhound_foxALL series need evolution. If they don't evolve, they stagnate. And the further along the series is, the more evolution it needs to stay relevant. But CoD has been the same game for every one of its iterations. The series started in 2003 and has had at least 10 different games on multiple platforms... and none of them have been different from one another. What I hate most about the CoD series is what its success is doing to the rest of the industry... making developers just stick to what works and not trying anything new, just to make the most money. It makes me fear for the future of games as art, rather than just a business product.
Overly short campaignsThe worst online community in the history of gaming (maturity-wise)Auto-aim makes it too easy1. Games these days are plagued by short campaigns, at least COD offers action packed every second, even if it gets a tad tedious. 2. Thats what you get for playing on consoles, ps3 has just as many kids as live, but you dont hear them because xbox live has a mic standard, PS3 does not. 3. Try playing it with it off then why dont you? you know you can, but guess what, its much harder. Games shouldent be catered to only us gamers, it should be able to played by anyone. Its one thing to make games easier to suit casuals, its another to make it completely inaccessible.These are the reasons I don't like it anyway
donalbane
I do not hate CoD, I dislike Activisions idea of "yearly installemnts" of it, I hate how all games since MW1 basicly resembles expansion packs (they are overly low on content, and alot of recyceling) I hate the idea of 15 doller map packs.
I hate how the sales of THAT one game has fueled the gaming industry to demand higher prices, and I hate how it pretty much started off the 60$ for pc version of games for real. I hate how the game was designed to allow lesser versitility, how they removed alot of things that was considered standard.
And I hate how alot of people buy it soley based on commercials. It pretty much shows that if you throw enough money at adverts, people will buy it, and think it is the best thing since sliced bread.
Now, when ive done with what I dislike about it? The game itself? I have no problems with, it is good, mp is not exactly the biggest leap farwards in online gaming ever as some people would have belive, but it is quite good, and it has a good fel to how it controls. In short: the game itself? pretty darn good ^^ its all the Overly bad ideas fuled by Activision I dislike about it.
And those negatives? Holy... those ARE negative, 15$ for a mappack? you know.. not long ago they were consideredobvious to get free with a games updates, 60$ forthe pc version (since the pc does notdemand royalties likethe consoles does, those 10$are pure profit, for no cost). The overly shallow and unflexible online structure (no dedicated servers,and so many things taken out to remove any control over the game as gamers usually have) is not a step backwards, its a jump back to the beginningof games...
Most of these points are ofcourse only a problem if you are a PC gamer ;)
[QUOTE="razgriz_101"][QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"] Isint Fallout: new Vegas more of same, isint, every madden more of the same? Why lose a winning formula, Fallout is boring as hell, im very impatient with it. COD I can pick up and play any time. BF is a better game and much more tactical, doesent make it more fun. deadlyabdus123
new vegas made massive improvements over FO3
Deeper crafting,not feeling overpowered,better sequel in terms of gameplay but not story it was a good improvement over FO3 despite some parts being disjointed.Trust me if you played new vegas you would know what im meaning its a much much much deeper game in terms of character developement and various other aspects, despite its flaws.
Madden i only buy every 3 years cause i dont bother bout players and unless the change was big enough from one year to the next then i might consider it.Over the past 2 gens i've only bought Madden 2003,2008 and 2011.
BF is way more fun than cod if you find the right people to play with and not a bunch of lone wolf bush wookie tank beasting idiots.
Deeper player enhancements (theatre mode, wager mode), not feeling unbalanced, better n terms of pace but not story and a good improvement over mw2 despite using an older engine. Trust me, if you ever played Black ops, you know what im meaning its a much much much deeper game in terms of multiplayer balance and various other aspects, despite its flaws. See what I did there, New Vegas is not an evolution like Sky Rim is to Oblivion, it is the same old engine tacked on with new features, many gaming sites even express this....please black ops has bout as much balance as a drunk coming out a Wetherspoons at 2 in the mornin.Also the multiplayer has the overall depth of a paddling pool.
Thing is those improvements in black ops are fairly cosmetic and basically pimp my gun, was expecting at least decent player customisation the way the blew on bout it at E3 like actually be able to change your guys model and what he looked like including what gear he wore making it more persistant.
BTW i do own black ops dont believe me add look thru my raptr, decent SP campaign i'll give it that but only the odd game of zombies is when i dust it off and fire it up.
[QUOTE="razgriz_101"][QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"] Isint Fallout: new Vegas more of same, isint, every madden more of the same? Why lose a winning formula, Fallout is boring as hell, im very impatient with it. COD I can pick up and play any time. BF is a better game and much more tactical, doesent make it more fun. deadlyabdus123
new vegas made massive improvements over FO3
Deeper crafting,not feeling overpowered,better sequel in terms of gameplay but not story it was a good improvement over FO3 despite some parts being disjointed.Trust me if you played new vegas you would know what im meaning its a much much much deeper game in terms of character developement and various other aspects, despite its flaws.
Madden i only buy every 3 years cause i dont bother bout players and unless the change was big enough from one year to the next then i might consider it.Over the past 2 gens i've only bought Madden 2003,2008 and 2011.
BF is way more fun than cod if you find the right people to play with and not a bunch of lone wolf bush wookie tank beasting idiots.
Deeper player enhancements (theatre mode, wager mode), not feeling unbalanced, better n terms of pace but not story and a good improvement over mw2 despite using an older engine. Trust me, if you ever played Black ops, you know what im meaning its a much much much deeper game in terms of multiplayer balance and various other aspects, despite its flaws. See what I did there, New Vegas is not an evolution like Sky Rim is to Oblivion, it is the same old engine tacked on with new features, many gaming sites even express this.... Ive played BO and MW2. BO doesnt really do anything to change it up. The game was boring to me since it plays exactly the same to MW2 and most of the "new" multiplayer modes I have played many many times before.[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]Instead of going on a rant like my other post, Ill ask you guys and then counter the argument. I feel all this COD hate going around the gaming community is alienating us from most gamers and fails in logical reasoning and would love to hear your thoughts. razgriz_101
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cause its rehash city,crappy engine,meh gameplay and animations that looked good last gen but now just look horid,robotic and generally reek of rehash.Not to mention an engine older than time itself.
Plus no dedicated servers
I don't hate CoD. I just hate that it attracts so much attention that people often overlook other great games. Oh, and because my XBL friends never seem to play anything else.
Truth be told, I've played tons of games for years, but not a single CoD title until Black Ops, which I actually liked a bit. Granted, I did not purchase it, nor do I plan on buying a title in the series anytime soon, but I did not find it to be a 'bad' game in any way. I can't stand the whole "3 bullets and you're dead" thing, but that's most likely from my years of Halo multiplayer.
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[QUOTE="deadlyabdus123"]Instead of going on a rant like my other post, Ill ask you guys and then counter the argument. I feel all this COD hate going around the gaming community is alienating us from most gamers and fails in logical reasoning and would love to hear your thoughts. sami117
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cause its rehash city,crappy engine,meh gameplay and animations that looked good last gen but now just look horid,robotic and generally reek of rehash.Not to mention an engine older than time itself.
Plus no dedicated servers
Now that I agree with, Lag and lack of servers kill COD, but servers cost money to maintain. The engine can only do so much at 60fps. Remember BF3 plays at 30 on consoles. And as far as map packs, BC2 allows you to unlock guns youd have to work for for 10 bucks, hows that for imbalance?A better question is why does it sell millions when people hate it on websites.
I guess we're the minority.
mitu123
Exactly, people who dislike Call of Duty are the minority. Back at school, all the bros love to play CoD. A lot of casual gamers like CoD because it's simple, the learning curve isn't very steep.
1. Games these days are plagued by short campaigns, at least COD offers action packed every second, even if it gets a tad tedious. deadlyabdus123The game in my sig, Deus Ex: Human Revolution is a shooter that will have a 25 hour singleplayer, and it is said by the developers that doing everything takes at least 40 hours to do everything. An "action-packed" singleplayer is meaningless if it doesn't have meaningful content. Why is it that I remember every level in Doom II, 16 years later? And can barely remember levels from shooters I played a few years ago? It is because they were unique, and creative. No matter how much explosions you pack into something won't make up for s***ty level design. And back to Deus Ex... HR is going to offer a meaningful story, with elements playing on modern political issues... and Call of Duty is offering a controversial level to draw negative attention from non-gamers to make gamers feel "cool" doing something that pisses off others. I don't care that people like Call of Duty... I just care that its success is turning the rest of the industry into Hollywood seen through Michael Bay's eyes. Big budget action movies that play themselves and are packed with more explosions than smart and creative content.
I have bought every COD game since COD4. I don't hate it, I'm just tired of it... MW3 looks more of the same.SaltyMeatballs
This, I'm just not gonna pay for the same game every year. And I've never bought one of their overpriced map packs, just not worth it to me. Fun games, and I did enjoy them, but it's just more of the same every year. For those who enjoy it, and find it worth it, more power to you! :)
The games are lacking in graphics, sound, physics, and polish of most other areas. The engine looks like crap, yet the netcode they use in combination with their p2p network make for a laggy online experience surpassed by every other online title I've played.
Acti directs the budget of the game towards marketing and voice actors. If they didn't go with Ice-T for BO, they could have used that money to pay for dedicated servers for the whole series.
Because it dserves the hate. Overhyped, over-appreciated, overpriced, over too quickly.... Nothing more to say on the situation.
Oh there is.... By next gen CoD as a franchise will be killed off like Tony Hawks and Guitar Hero. Both over done and the public got severly bored.
so does it make you an elitist gamer hating it? cause I'd consider myself a big gamer and i dont mind playing with casual gamers, In fact, most of my friends are casual gamers or not gamers at all, id rather not associate myself with a person as big into gaming as I am because they tend to be physically like their stereotype. If your good at COD, you have skill, even the biggest gamers suck at FPS because they dont have the reflexes. COD just doesent have a steep learning curve and you dont have to master anything. It seems I adressed ever issue you guys argued in my replys, the only issue I agree with is that the series hasnt evolved much but thats because of the nature of the game and the tech limitations of having it 60 fps. we try to put as much as we can but current gen consoles dont allow too much shine at 60 fps. Also the lag is a big issue but servers cost money to maintain.I hate it because i find it to be the epitome of casual gaming, i'm not a casual FPS player so i can't stop feeling 'what a crappy noob game' whenever i play call of duty.
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