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#1 Salt_The_Fries
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Neither Xbone nor even the almighty PC get recognition for graphics to the extent PS4 has. The same applied to PS3. Seems like a game has to be on a Sony console to qualify as a contender.

Even if some multiplats on PC look a generation ahead on their ultra settings and still masses ignore it.

What gives? Inb4 lol Arkham Knight

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I live my life a quarter fps at a time, that Arkham Knight life :P

Seriously though my ps4 feels half a gen behind at times compared to my budget rig. Them lack of aa hurts.

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#3  Edited By lostrib
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Pretty sure the 360 got plenty of recognition for its graphics back in the day

And the PC is expected to have the best, it's all part of the plan

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#4 DEadliNE-Zero0
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But it doesn't?

What graphics king is this? All i see are games cutting corners, using linear, static enviroments, backed lighting and shaders, etc.

Has for recognition, it's mostly because of marketing. SC has alot of money and thus gained attention.

Unreal Tournament looks amazing, but because it's a small scale project, most don't know about.

Ofcourse people know about 5club, The Order, UC4, etc. They're marketed based on graphics in big conferences.

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#6 Legend002
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PC is not main stream and the Xbone is a far lesser hardware than the PS4.

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#7  Edited By stereointegrity
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Wait a minute. The pc doesn't get enough recognition for graphics

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#8 Ant_17
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

Neither Xbone nor even the almighty PC get recognition for graphics to the extent PS4 has. The same applied to PS3. Seems like a game has to be on a Sony console to qualify as a contender.

Even if some multiplats on PC look a generation ahead on their ultra settings and still masses ignore it.

What gives? Inb4 lol Arkham Knight

Well hidden Xbone thread i see.

Some people troll when they ad PC , you do know this?

And with the PS3: I think only some exclusives count compared to the 360.

Bayo 1 looks and runs better on the 360 /don't know any else but i'm sure there are/

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#9 LJS9502_basic
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Troll thread? PC not getting recognition for graphics?

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#10 ReadingRainbow4
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Your threads have become increasingly shit.

Which in itself, is surprising.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Your threads have become increasingly shit.

Which in itself, is surprising.

don't forget that we will be the ones enjoying over saltthefries and tormentos threads.. let them be.

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#12 SolidGame_basic
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I haven't seen an X1 game that comes close to looking as good as DriveClub, The Order 1886, heck, even Killzone Shadow Fall. Uncharted 4 is pretty much gonna blow the lid on this place. It's like the equivalent of pulling someone's shorts down in gym class.

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#13 Ant_17
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@SolidGame_basic said:

I haven't seen an X1 game that comes close to looking as good as DriveClub, The Order 1886, heck, even Killzone Shadow Fall. Uncharted 4 is pretty much gonna blow the lid on this place. It's like the equivalent of pulling someone's shorts down in gym class.

inb4PCGRASXKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I don't care all that much about paper crowns. PC is better in graphics.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

I haven't seen an X1 game that comes close to looking as good as DriveClub, The Order 1886, heck, even Killzone Shadow Fall. Uncharted 4 is pretty much gonna blow the lid on this place. It's like the equivalent of pulling someone's shorts down in gym class.

You finally got to spin that into a positive. Good for you.

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#16 ProtossX
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@Salt_The_Fries: PC isn't funding those big budget graphical games I think crytek was going bankrupt or something on PC, Microsoft went with terrible hardware nobody knows why and now that device can never have a graphics king.

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#17  Edited By SamiRDuran
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@Salt_The_Fries: PC isn't funding those big budget graphical games I think crytek was going bankrupt or something on PC, Microsoft went with terrible hardware nobody knows why and now that device can never have a graphics king.

are you for real? Crytek was growing so fast opening new studios left and right up until they decided to release games on consoles.

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#18  Edited By gpuking
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Because fact states nothing on PC looks better than The Order currently. Future titles like UC4 and Horizon already have it in the grasp too. Like I said many times, in order for PC to have a new graphics king it would have to do what Crysis 1 did in 2007 by solely program a game to the highest graphics card spec and a couple gens beyond, a Crysis 4 with all these manifested would look crazy, but reality says it's 99.99% non plausible given the current trend. What of Star Citizen then? It's true it's targeting high end pc hardware but it's not entirely focused on pushing graphics to the maximum, so while technically it may be more impressive than any console games but from what it renders on screen, it's still not as impressive as the more graphics focused game like The Order or Uncharted. It's all resource distribution.

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Because gpuking exists.

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#20 SolidGame_basic
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@cainetao11 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

I haven't seen an X1 game that comes close to looking as good as DriveClub, The Order 1886, heck, even Killzone Shadow Fall. Uncharted 4 is pretty much gonna blow the lid on this place. It's like the equivalent of pulling someone's shorts down in gym class.

You finally got to spin that into a positive. Good for you.

you're just mad that the Rangers lost

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@SolidGame_basic: The Order has black bars, grainy filter, and running at 800p. Driveclub uses weather to cover up its graphical weaknesses. And Ryse was known as the best looking new gen game. Not Killzone, in fact, Ryse kills your argument completely.

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#22  Edited By cainetao11
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@cainetao11 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

I haven't seen an X1 game that comes close to looking as good as DriveClub, The Order 1886, heck, even Killzone Shadow Fall. Uncharted 4 is pretty much gonna blow the lid on this place. It's like the equivalent of pulling someone's shorts down in gym class.

You finally got to spin that into a positive. Good for you.

you're just mad that the Rangers lost

Are you kidding me? We were the Chicago Cubs of hockey up until 1994. And we haven't won it since. We are quite used to coming up short. Bet your lady says you are too.

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#23 Bruin1986
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Nobody mentions the PC in graphics debates because its domination in that regard goes without saying.

It's like debating whether a tuna fish sandwich or egg salad sandwich is better, and then someone interjecting that a filet mignon with truffle oil sandwich is best.

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#24 SolidGame_basic
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@cainetao11 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@cainetao11 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

I haven't seen an X1 game that comes close to looking as good as DriveClub, The Order 1886, heck, even Killzone Shadow Fall. Uncharted 4 is pretty much gonna blow the lid on this place. It's like the equivalent of pulling someone's shorts down in gym class.

You finally got to spin that into a positive. Good for you.

you're just mad that the Rangers lost

Are you kidding me? We were the Chicago Cubs of hockey up until 1994. And we haven't won it since. We are quite used to coming up short. Bet your lady says you are too.

We have a much better franchise called the NJ Devils, thanks.

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@primorandomguy said:

@SolidGame_basic: The Order has black bars, grainy filter, and running at 800p. Driveclub uses weather to cover up its graphical weaknesses. And Ryse was known as the best looking new gen game. Not Killzone, in fact, Ryse kills your argument completely.

Actually Ryse (and other games) on PC curb stomps most graphics arguments through the floor.

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#26 Krelian-co
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Another "quality" thread by the saltylem, with just the right ammount of bias and stupidity, man, all the three readers of your blog.....errr i mean "gaming site" must be in for a treat everytime you write highly intellectual stuff like this.

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#27 lostrib
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@gpuking: what facts?

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#28 foxhound_fox
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Because cows are the only people who legitimately care about the title.

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#29 Salt_The_Fries
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@bobrossperm: LOOOOOOOOL so much win in this post

@Krelian-co: Well, I'll most likely be at Gamescom and you won't

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I'm pretty sure when I was here last generation, Crysis held the title for a long time.

I'm pretty sure though that there will be some good games in the future that will give the PS4 some competition, but there are still good games on the PC.

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#31  Edited By Krelian-co
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

@bobrossperm: LOOOOOOOOL so much win in this post

@Krelian-co: Well, I'll most likely be at Gamescom and you won't

let me guess, "because your blog errr...gaming site is partner with microsoft", oh wait, or maybe because anyone can buy tickets, lol. But hey gz, i cannot go quite busy with work. But hey keep up the good work, i am sure those 3 people reading your blog enjoy your intellectual posts.

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#32 cainetao11
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@cainetao11 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@cainetao11 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

I haven't seen an X1 game that comes close to looking as good as DriveClub, The Order 1886, heck, even Killzone Shadow Fall. Uncharted 4 is pretty much gonna blow the lid on this place. It's like the equivalent of pulling someone's shorts down in gym class.

You finally got to spin that into a positive. Good for you.

you're just mad that the Rangers lost

Are you kidding me? We were the Chicago Cubs of hockey up until 1994. And we haven't won it since. We are quite used to coming up short. Bet your lady says you are too.

We have a much better franchise called the NJ Devils, thanks.

Who are 2-4 in playoff series against the NY Rangers. But I digress, the Devils from '95 to 2003 were one of the best teams in hockey history. I didnt know you were in the east coast area. Glad there is another. We'll have to jump on PSN some time.

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#33  Edited By stereointegrity
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@bobrossperm said:

Because gpuking exists.

i honestly laughed

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#34  Edited By -God-
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Because Cows are the most disillusion and mentally unstable faction, on top of Sony having the most payed forum shills in the market.

They are the ones who coined the rumors that "the human eye can't see past 30 fps." They are the ones who said Uncharted2 and TLOU had the best gfx last gen.

They make stuff up and have mass circle jerking.

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#35 stereointegrity
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@foxhound_fox said:

Because cows are the only people who legitimately care about the title.

you would think with 91k posts on this forum you would have come across the term hermit once or twice

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#36  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

The same applied to PS3.

Pfffffft

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#37 Ant_17
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@-God- said:

Because Cows are the most disillusion and mentally unstable faction, on top of Sony having the most payed forum shills in the market.

They are the ones who coined the rumors that "the human eye can't see past 30 fps." They are the ones who said Uncharted2 and TLOU had the best gfx last gen.

They make stuff up and have mass circle jerking.

Show me something from 2009 , don't care if its PC 360 PS3 or Iphone just something to compare.

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#38  Edited By -God-
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@gpuking said:

Because fact states nothing on PC looks better than The Order currently.

Your opinions on aesthetics has nothing to do with facts. Are you over the age of 9? You are the same person who said UC2, UC3, TLOU were graphics kings, and that your Plasma TV made PS3 graphics king all gen long. You then said infamous, killzone, and driveclub would be gfx kings prior to their releases. That is a 100% loss rate.

PC has had gfx king for the last decade. The only time Console had better graphics was when Gears1 came out, and that didn't last long. It currently has gfx king in maxed out Unity, PCars, Witcher3, and Ryse. UT, Star Citizen, Battlefront, DX:MD, and likely FO4+Mods maxed on PC will trump anything coming to consoles, including on-rails cutscene screenshot forum bragging games.

The Order shouldn't look this bad considering it's only 4 hours in tiny hallways:

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@-God- said:

Because Cows are the most disillusion and mentally unstable faction, on top of Sony having the most payed forum shills in the market.

They are the ones who coined the rumors that "the human eye can't see past 30 fps." They are the ones who said Uncharted2 and TLOU had the best gfx last gen.

They make stuff up and have mass circle jerking.

congratz salty lem, one person was dumb enough to fell for the bait when lumping garbagebox and pc together.

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@Salt_The_Fries said:

Neither Xbone nor even the almighty PC get recognition for graphics to the extent PS4 has. The same applied to PS3. Seems like a game has to be on a Sony console to qualify as a contender.

Even if some multiplats on PC look a generation ahead on their ultra settings and still masses ignore it.

What gives? Inb4 lol Arkham Knight

Maybe it's more on the cost of entry to achieve a subjectively recognizable image quality/experience increase maybe not so much that not a lot don't give recognistion.

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#41  Edited By RR360DD
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Probably something to do with the fact Sony games have zero substance, and literally all cows can hype them for is their presentation.

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@Bruin1986: Thats funny because console games beat PC games when they competed head to head all the time. It's not just about res and framerate.

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@RR360DD said:

Probably something to do with the fact Sony games have zero substance, and literally all cows can hype them for is their presentation.

This post (appears to be) 100% factual.

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#44  Edited By Ant_17
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@RR360DD said:

Probably something to do with the fact Sony games have zero substance, and literally all cows can hype them for is their presentation.

Can you give examples?

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@stereointegrity said:
@foxhound_fox said:

Because cows are the only people who legitimately care about the title.

you would think with 91k posts on this forum you would have come across the term hermit once or twice

Hermits don't tend to talk about graphics kings. They just post Crysis and modded Skyrim pictures in threads created by cows about graphics kings.

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Cows are the only ones who enjoy movies, which do look better than games.

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#47 BobRossPerm
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@Ant_17 said:
@RR360DD said:

Probably something to do with the fact Sony games have zero substance, and literally all cows can hype them for is their presentation.

Can you give examples?

The Order 1886? DriveClub being a no frills basic ass racing game in order to push visuals as far as possible? Sony love to push visuals first especially at the beginning of the generation.

But pretending that Microsoft have superior games is just ridiculous.

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#48 Ant_17
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@bobrossperm said:
@Ant_17 said:
@RR360DD said:

Probably something to do with the fact Sony games have zero substance, and literally all cows can hype them for is their presentation.

Can you give examples?

The Order 1886? DriveClub being a no frills basic ass racing game in order to push visuals as far as possible? Sony love to push visuals first especially at the beginning of the generation.

But pretending that Microsoft have superior games is just ridiculous.

Fair enought.

The Order is a shallow game and Driveclub is basic like you said.

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#49  Edited By Krelian-co
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@RR360DD said:

Probably something to do with the fact Sony games have zero substance, and literally all cows can hype them for is their presentation.

yeah that ryse, pure garbage qte fest, good thing it only got a 4, that will show sony, oh wait, was ryse on ps4? hmmm.

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@Salt_The_Fries said:

Neither Xbone nor even the almighty PC get recognition for graphics to the extent PS4 has. The same applied to PS3. Seems like a game has to be on a Sony console to qualify as a contender.

Even if some multiplats on PC look a generation ahead on their ultra settings and still masses ignore it.

What gives? Inb4 lol Arkham Knight

Wipe your tears xbox got recognition from gears in 2006 and PC got recognition from Crysis in 2007. It is just a simple fact that PS3/PS4 have presented more industry rosining graphical show pieces than exclusives produced on other platforms.

PS3 didn't get credit for multiplats as do no other system save for PC so that argument is out. Since exclusives drives the competition between the systems, they are the games people look to for competitive and industry setting bars.

PC has most RTS and moba stuff or games you that looked good but we broken or played so bad they were underwhelming.

Xbox had Halo/forza/Gears and while Gears was a show piece in 2006 it had been on the market a year and PS3 had only been out a month so it's hardware was untapped.