Whic is a better investment: $400 AMD R9 290 vs $400 PS4?

You know PS4 has a company backing it that will produce tons of exclusive games right, and for the next 7 or 8 years at that. PS4 will have exclusives plus all the good to high profile PC games that get released over the next several years as well.

Not a fan of the R9 290. Wait for the 20nm GPUs those will blow consoles out of the water.

do you already have a PC?

PS4 by far. Don't think I'd ever pay $400 for a video card.

PS4 will still be relevant in 7 years.

you still need more than just a $400 card to play games and all those PC exclusives like Path on Exile run even on a PS2 level of hardware. XD

That's what I was going to say, too. And a lot of people, like myself, only have laptops.

depends on your situation but if you are just comparing the two i'd say PS4. But if you are in the market for an upgrade to your GPU then yeah go with the 290 obviously.

where is the disk slot for games on teh gpu?

graphics card

which in turn means the 290 will also be relevant as well. Mantle says hi. Even without something like Mantle the 8800gt still smokes the PS360 7 years later.

Yes. I think very few people don't have Desktop PC's with a PCI-Express slots.

Desktop PCs are becoming less and less common. And just having a PC with PCIe slots does not mean you can just stick a R9 290 in it

PS4 is for me. I just built my PC earlier this year and have a 6GB 7970 GE, so I am good for a few more years easy.

If you've got a desktop PC or small form factor PC that will fit one of those bad boys, that's obviously the way to go.

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Assuming you (Mr Xtasy) met all the requirements, power, ventilation, PCIE 3.0 x16 slot - etc, I'd be grabbing that Radeon today, and enjoying better graphics on a wealth of games you already own - today.

Those PS4 exclusives, yeah they're appealling. But If they are really the only reason to get the console, I'd even look at borrowing one from a mate down the track. Save yourself a bunch of bones, still play the exclusives.

That's what I'd be doing. I would stretch the legs on that R9 290 every god damned day. Balls to the wall. Pixels pixels pixels. I'd even consider the R9 290X in order to enjoy AMD's hardware audio.

Doesn't the PC industry still ship somehting like the COMBINED totla of units Xbox have shipped in 7+ years... in a single quarter?

@Gue1: still score higher than killzone and knack

Yes, if you are just doing a GPU upgrade to a capable PC, then get the 290 or 290x or 780 (whatever you prefer). And play all those current/next gen games. Then then you can save money for the PS4 (or X1 if you prefer) if something shows up on the console that interests you, and it will probably be cheaper by then

Okay, so what

You will need need more $400 more to play PS4 games too.

you'd be surprised. Also a lot of general purpose desktops are not big enough to throw a monster GPU in there. Then there are power requirements as well.

So yeah it depends on your situation. For some the 290 makes sense (honestly you could go cheaper and still have great performance especially considering how weak next gen consoles are) for others the PS4 makes more sense. Me I already have a PC with a 7950 so I'm good. I'd pick a PS4 over a 290 easy. But for those still running 6xxx GPUs ore nvidia 5xx or even 4xx GPUs then yeah the 290x is the better choice. Then you have the consolites who don't have gaming rigs or a computer that can house one of these. To them its even more of a no brainer. PS4 all the way. So basically unless you are in the market for an upgrade the PS4 is the better option. I'm Master Race all the way but I'm also honest and I'd never lie to someone and say they should go out an spend $400 on a GPU when they don't have everything else that you need to go with it.

Now if your question was creating a budget PC to match the PS4 instead of buying a PS4 i'd say build the budget PC. 500-700 is enough to build a PC from scratch that will best the PS4 (you don't need a 290 to do this) and at that price point It starts to make more sense.

PS4 easily. That card or an equivalent one will be half the price in a couple years. The PS4 will probably be the same price.

Wait, an this gfx card access steam and play all these games at 1080 without a CPU or RAM or a MB or a disc drive ......... Wow, this must be working so well for you

I don't anymore.

bro. what gpu do you have at the moment?

I get the point you are trying to make but an optical drive is in no way shape or form mandatory for a PC in 2013. My PC doesn't have one and I have never needed to use one other than when I installed the OS and I used my external optical drive for that.

@Gue1:

Resogun said hey

R9 290 will not be? Even then, it's RELEVANT now and will be for the 4 years at least. It could easily do 1080P 60+ FPS NOW. While the PS4 can't do 1080P in graphical demanding games like BF4. If it's pushing 4K graphics now, in couple of years say 4 years, what makes you think that it will not be able to do 1080P?

Personally, I may go for the R 290 if I was forced at gunpoint now.

I'm fine with the PS3/PC/VITA setup for now. Plus, I prefer DAI on the PC.

I need more info on The Order, ND and other Santa Monica projects tho.

I can actually wait for a better gpu (price/performance) close to DAI launch.

Neither are a good investment.

that ass that he is talking out of.

Let me break down my point...

7 years from now there will be gaming experiences only possible with a PS4, simply due to exclusivity.

7 years from now there will not be any gaming experiences that are only possible with an R9 290, simply due to the fact that there are a plethora of other graphics cards to choose from.

Perhaps my point was too simplistic.

but there will be gaming experiences only possible on the PC, that could be accomplished with an r9 290

Non reference R9 290 for me(or X version, waiting to see)

When a better cooler is on that thing expect even more performance. For me however the dark horse which really made me decide to go with radeon again is mantel. Its gonna be alot more FPS for free and Nvidia fanboys gonna cryyyyyyy from the rape Amd has in line for them after nvida drones realize how much money they spent on overpriced crap,not even the 780ti is gonna beat a mantel supported game.

15+ dice games are already confirmed for mantel, along with Theif/Star Citizen(biggest hermit game)/Murdered souls/ and whatever games from the new nitros oxide engine.

This lineup includes titanfall, cows be sad..

Assassins Creed black flag/Watchdogs/Titanfall/Witcher 3/Murdered Soul Suspect/Battlefield 4/Heroes of the storm/The Division/ Thief/Need for speed rivals/Project Cars/Project Spark/Dark Souls/The Jungle/ Star Citizen/ Wolfenstein/ The Evil within/ Dying Light/CastleVania/South Park stick of truth/Arma 3/The witness/The Crew/Sims 4/ Mad Max/Mirrors Edge/Battlefront/Batman Arkham Origins

PS4 because your PC is too weak to handle R9 290.

This guy runs a 3 core AMD CPU, with enough power to push a DX11 low end GPU, but no where near enough for a 290.

This guy also preaches AMD everywhere he goes.

I need not say anymore.

Neither is a good investment. Just get a 7950 and you're good to go.

source?

you don't need a 400 dollar graphics card.. are you mad ? you can get a good enough graphics card for 200 dollars and have 200 dollars to spare.. you could get a 3DS and expand your library or a Vita or if you have a good enough PC already get a PS4.. but expanding your library/ choices >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better graphics

Been here a long enough time, this guy trolls the PC board and SW boards occasionally, and even let slip his HW config in his sig before the site change.

Unless he magically has a intel CPU or AMD FX 8 core, 290 is a bad purchase for such a underpowered PC.

Balance is the key to success.

For now i'd say PS4 is much better than upgrading your rig but in a year or two a gpu would be better. you can't miss the party that happens once per decade!!

His current card is a Radeon 6950, and if i remember correctly 4GB of DDR2 memory.

can anyone tell me what is the must have game for the ps4? im still waiting to hear...

@lostribHere is my source.

PC gaming FTW!

My gaming Desktop:

AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition

ASRock AMD 780GXE MB

AMD XFX HD 6950 Unlocked to HD 6970

120 GB OCZ SSD HD

1 TB WD 7200RPM HD

Smilodon Raidmax gaming case

PC Power and Cooling 610W PSU

4GB OCZ Reaper Ram

Samsung DVD+/- RW

My Gaming Laptop:

Dell Studio 1735

17" HD Monitor

Core 2 Duo T5850 CPU

Mobility Radeon HD 3650 512MB (Overclocked to 550\557)

320GB HD

3GB DDR2

DVD +/- RW

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198017213938

This, of course, presumes you have a relatively modern desktop PC, with 8GB of RAM installed, a non-slim form factor case, with a great power supply (see the ones shipping with Dell Inspirons, for example? A mere 300 watts).

I would go so far as to say, that chances are... if you have such a setup, and the accompanying ~24" inch PC monitor, you probably are already a PC gamer in the first place and have an adequate graphics card anyway.

Reality is, these days, more and more people are using laptops, tablets and slim-form factor desktops for their general computing.

You need a Core i5 minimum or AMD FX 8 core to handle such a GPU really.

that's gonna need more than a $400 upgrade

LMAO. Obviously you will need to put it into a desktop PC. That's just as stupid as saying you wouldn't need a "TV" to play your PS4.

Correction. AMD Radeon HD 6950 BIOS flashed to HD 6970.